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keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #296 19 Dec 2021 at 8.18pm  2  Login    Register
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That sting has served me so well. The trouble is now that I have so many brilliant little products in my box that I’m not sure which one I want to cast out! It is also easy to see that the very venues which were proving tricky with bright hookbaits in the summer are now producing the goods on them again. The sting is still our biggest seller!
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #295 19 Dec 2021 at 8.12pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks mate! Kind words!
MiniWelsh
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MiniWelsh
   Old Thread  #294 19 Dec 2021 at 6.53pm  0  Login    Register
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The Sting wafter saved me a blank this weekend. Moved to another lake on site for a few hours after struggling for a night in the main lake and managed to nick a bite and had a pretty mid double. Nothing special but any carp is welcome this time of year and the Sting seems to work everywhere I've tried it so far
Busted
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   Old Thread  #293 19 Dec 2021 at 6.25pm  0  Login    Register
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I very much doubt that you will be stealing any of gav's customers. Handcraft is doing some really great things

I thought id put the name up. I looked it up because people were asking. A simple facebook search was all that it took
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #292 19 Dec 2021 at 4.42pm  0  Login    Register
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Well lads, I have just returned from a session where I chased those slippery little buggers around two lakes and all to no avail. However everyone else seems to have faired much better. Lots of love for banoffee, tutti, sting and tricknut this weekend and tomorrow being our last day looks like another chaotic one. I’m working through all the pms and all of the ones on our social media whilst trying to be a good dad 😂
All I will say is that the positivity about all we are doing is a breath of fresh air for me right now. Long may it continue!
wandle1
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wandle1
   Old Thread  #291 19 Dec 2021 at 4.26pm  0  Login    Register
Using the Almond pop ups yesterday,I had a very nice common,just on dark,dimpsy ...I hung around waiting for the window,and it happened, well pleased

I found the Almonds great for deep water fishing in a mine I fish as well..

I got Marcus's and Gavs baits...no where is safe lol..👍👍
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #283 18 Dec 2021 at 3.27pm  3  Login    Register
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I won’t mention that on this post out of respect to Gav, only reason I’ve ever referred to it is so people understand where my views come from
NOJOAKES
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NOJOAKES
   Old Thread  #282 18 Dec 2021 at 1.41pm  0  Login    Register
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What’s your bait company out of interest
mark1009
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   Old Thread  #281 17 Dec 2021 at 7.25pm  0  Login    Register
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Same here you can't use a throwing stick until dusk and even spombs don't guarantee every bait getting to the bottom. Small baits have a better percentage chance. However if everyone is using 12 mm it would be good to use 24mm. I'm loathe to spomb at feeding time. Wish I could afford night vision goggles to improve my nightime throwing stick skills.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #280 17 Dec 2021 at 2.54pm  0  Login    Register
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I'm not lol. Seeing my glorious Albion cheated for points with wolves made me jump back on the forum to escape reality
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #279 17 Dec 2021 at 2.50pm  0  Login    Register
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As a kid I made a ( very simple to be fair ) mix of CPSP90, caseins, glm and birdfood. it was a fantastic thing, I could only afford very small amounts though. a 4 egg mix would last the whole weekend, you just had to bait clever not erratically.

Around my way I reckon a good 15% of all the boilies used are taken by gulls, they even dive after the spombs now. so if someone is willing to bait at night / cast intermittently theres a saving to be had there. and certainly a preferable saving to make rather than compromise on the quality of the one thing the carp needs to show interest in.



keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #278 17 Dec 2021 at 2.38pm  1  Login    Register
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It is a shame that a huge part of the market are only interested if the price is right. Our expensive bait will be the lowest selling bait (a sad fact) from now on but I also understand not everyone has endless money to buy bait. My words of advice are, if it’s really cheap then think carefully. And once again, if money is really tight (trust me it has been for me this year) then buy 5kg of good bait rather than 20kg of crap in a deal. Treat every boilie like it’s your last!!
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #277 17 Dec 2021 at 2.31pm  0  Login    Register
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100%

My baits cost more, but relatively speaking I make very little too, certainly far less than a pound a kilo, then there’s reinvestment into machinery / space etc.

Boilie prices have stayed the same despite everything going up, 400% mark up on bait is in the days of old now.


It links into that other thread about turns when you think about it, people assume more shifting can be done because basemixes can be made fairy cheaply.

To give an example, and I hope you don’t mind gav

The price of the bait cannot just reflect the ingredients it contains, labour costs, outsource costs, shipping, storage, all cost money. Then there is the rental of premises, electric for freezers and drying rooms etc

Rent round my way, without business rates jn top is around 13.50/15 per foot for units so a 1000 square foot unit is doing 13-15k a year rent as is.

Add onto this tge cost of residential living, food, utilises, cars etc it’s a wonder anyone who makes bait can afford to fish


10 quid a kilo bulk for a decent bait would allow a fair wage to the maker and bring prices online with the 80% increase in everything else fishing wise.

Offers are suppose to entice one in to repeat custom not be taken advantage of solely so if Hav did put offers up it’s counter intuitive to business.


One thing gets me is a lot of people Moan that good baits change / disappear as well as good companies, in reality that can be saved by paying a merchant a reasonable price for their wares.
Wayne
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Wayne
   Old Thread  #276 17 Dec 2021 at 2.30pm  0  Login    Register
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PM Gavin.......
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #275 17 Dec 2021 at 2.07pm  1  Login    Register
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Ah offers!
We get asked this all the time. Can you do deals and can you knock this off. I don’t mind people asking at all but I’m afraid our profit margins on boilies are tiny. There are even people on this forum who have worked behind the scenes with us that will back that statement up. As per below, we shifted one bait (and lost money) to make space for another but you won’t see deals and offers put up as we just can’t afford to do it right now. I’d be very wary of companies constantly offering bait out cheap or crazy deals but then again I’m not one to sit and watch what everyone else is doing.
I have always said that our bulk price is crazy cheap and it will have to go up a bit as certain ingredients have gone up hugely this year.
I’m doing all I can to buy bigger and keep costs down.
Many customers buy as a group to share the costs and postage and feel free to come and collect if you are local. I’ll answer any question you all have as honestly as I can.
Gav
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