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keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #336 5 Jan 2022 at 7.24am  1  Login    Register
In reply to Post #321
Well done on your fish. Nice to see the herb has continued to produce in the winter. I must admit that I have personally kept it on at least one rod this winter and that was simply to see if it honestly does work in the cold. I had doubts that maybe it was too heavy on the fishmeal front but judging by my results and those of the customers it still seems to work.
My last few big fish have fallen to either herb Wafters over crumb or super squid and Nutriplex Wafters.
One of may lads landed 4 fish in a night fishing over 4kg of whole boilies at the weekend and then ran out of bait!!
Crazy weather last week!!!
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #335 5 Jan 2022 at 0.46am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #329
Are you telling me you're mixes contain no spheres?
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #334 4 Jan 2022 at 10.58pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #332
I was told mark did the mix you did the flavours and additives? If I’m wrong I’m wrong
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #333 4 Jan 2022 at 9.53pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #332
Hello Kev, hope you are well buddy. Good old forum, the place for myths and facts 😂😂
KevinHeal
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   Old Thread  #332 4 Jan 2022 at 9.27pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #327
With regards to: I believe you work with mark and thus have struck gold “as he did proper jobs mix”, without him, its a different ball game.

Mark is a good mate of mine! The first time we met, we struck it off big-time and we fished together for many years. As for pop up mixes, to give credit where credit is due, Mark helped me out with some pop up ingredients. However, as for your claims that “Mark did my mixes” this claim is simply not true.
Mark knows a little about the makeup of my mixes but neither of us know the exact makeup of the others mixes (and that’s a fact).
viking
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   Old Thread  #331 4 Jan 2022 at 9.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #329
So do you use something buoyant whose name starts with an E or has there come some new stuff the last few years?
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #330 4 Jan 2022 at 8.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #328
Absolutely…….and they are very popular!
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #329 4 Jan 2022 at 8.19pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #327
Mozzi, I think you have completely misunderstood everything here. I’m not saying in any way cork is bad! We use cork, everyone uses cork in Wafters and cork balls etc. it’s a way of making things float! I’m a huge fan of food in my hookbaits via cork, or whatever means necessary as I rely heavily on hookbait attraction a lot of the time.
You refer to air ball mixes…….the air ball mixes you are thinking of are so old and obsolete that we have never used them. They are not buoyant enough to be combined with anything and still float.
Pop up technology has moved on and Pidge is the man behind it. What looks like your old air ball mix is now something made out of edible items. Fishmeal, Milks, glm, fruit palatants all can now be used but you are left with something very edible and attractive.
The fact we can make Hookbaits containing heavy hydros, is game changing but the biggest factor of all is that they are user friendly…….and……..you can add whatever liquids you want (if you so wish) which I think anglers really like (goo, minamino, sprays etc).
Some people won’t use corkballs, some hate air ball mixes, some can’t bring themselves to cast out a bottom bait!! I try to look at the overall picture and listen to what anglers want.
Making 12mm ultra buoyant pop ups is an art…….making them out of real food can only be done by a handful of people in the U.K.
A hookbait made out of fishmeal, liver, garlic etc will always catch loads of carp but let’s not forget that attraction comes from solids, liquids, essential oils, and other forms. Harnessing it all into a ball that’s easy to use is the tricky bit!
You all have to cast out what makes you confident.
frothey
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frothey
   Old Thread  #328 4 Jan 2022 at 8.12pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #327
Gavin uses corkballs for “food bait” pop ups…….
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #327 4 Jan 2022 at 7.46pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #324
Well no.....specialised use cork and real food and there catch reports are stunning.

What I mean by attractors is the often dense, nutrient rich ingredients with levels of solubility to work properly.I'm not a huge believer in artificial flavours hence its more difficult to cram "real food" in.

I believe you work with mark and thus have struck gold as he did proper jobs mix, without him, its a different ball game.

My preference has always been super soluble pop ups, usuall paste around a corkball and meshed, you cannot get the same extraction of real food particles and signals from airball mixes, it would be immoral.

But as I alluded earlier it depends, I personally view bright pop ups as more of a lure
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #326 4 Jan 2022 at 6.32pm  0  Login    Register
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I was trying to ask if people are happy to adjust pop ups. And if that is common practice? Most waters contain nuisance species, crayfish etc and having to drill out and open up the texture is a recipe for disaster. And drilling 12mm pop ups……..that is gonna be hard work with such a low diameter
Carp-man76
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Carp-man76
   Old Thread  #325 4 Jan 2022 at 6.07pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #324
Then just make that point then rather than asking a question regarding what other bait companies are doing. Simply say your pop ups don't need added Cork as they are super buoyant. There are people like that like to turn a bottom bait into a pop up hence my answer. 📌
keeperboy
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   Old Thread  #324 4 Jan 2022 at 5.52pm  3  Login    Register
In reply to Post #319
The point I was making is people seem happy to take a pop up that isn’t buoyant, then add something else that is buoyant, to make it buoyant enough! Why not just make it buoyant in the first place!
If you want a hookbait to look like a bottom bait but with a tad of buoyancy, buy a wafter! I haven’t done anything to a hookbait to change its buoyancy in a decade!
One of the images I was referring to was a “name” telling people to drill out a 12mm pop up and cork it simply cos it wasn’t good enough to pick up his hinge stiff rig. My argument is that all that faff is a cop out! Consumer should be able to just take a bait from the pot and cast it out!
The reason that baitroom or proper job or specialised hookbaits and handcraft have done so well is because the hookbaits do exactly what they say.
And Mozzi……..drilling out a hookbait or having a low buoyancy…….I just don’t get it! Put edible items, liquids, attractors, additives in a pop up and make it pop up! Surely that’s it’s job!
feudefer
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feudefer
   Old Thread  #323 4 Jan 2022 at 4.49pm  0  Login    Register
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I think that Gav was asking if people were adding cork to shop bought pop ups, due to them being not very buoyant.

You are right though a man of his experience probably has added buoyancy to a bottom bait at some point.
Mozzi
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Mozzi
   Old Thread  #322 4 Jan 2022 at 3.43pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #320
It depends really. I prefer a less buoyant pop up that I can cork, simply because it leaves more room for attractors. There is a commercial standard though
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