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scozza
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#121 2 Dec 2018 13:21
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Not impressed by Wilder at all following this if I'm honest. One trick pony. His record speaks for itself, suppose you can only fight what's in front of you but up until Ortiz, who nearly had him out, nobody really stands out for me, still, styles make fights

I suppose Joshua has to decide whether he wants to be KO'd by WIlder, which I would want Joshua to win but just can't see it, he is definitely hittable. Or gets a boxing lesson and embarrassment in front of the home fans and hopes for the chance of a knockout against Fury

Fury was superb for me, as well as all the goings on over the last few years his movement for his size is just something else. Let's he he keeps his head together and gets back in the gym
tazi tazi
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#122 2 Dec 2018 18:15
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Probably in a minority of 1 but I thought Wilder won that fight.

116-113.

Those two 10-8 rounds did for Fury and not quite sure where one judges scorecard showed 113-113.

Think Fury will be ecstatic being called a draw even though he hasn't said it.
ip100 ip100
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#123 2 Dec 2018 19:24
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Haven't watched it yet, but by the sounds of it yes you are a minority of one lol. By the sounds of it, it was a very good night of boxing. Shame about Stevenson though, hope he pulls through OK
tazi tazi
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#124 2 Dec 2018 19:44
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Judging by reactions to the fight and even my son saying Fury was robbed I felt it must be obvious that he was. Watching it I just didn't see it that way one little bit.

Edit - Don't know anything regards Stephenson but by the sounds of it could be pretty serious so yep, hope he's ok.
jeffire jeffire
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#125 2 Dec 2018 19:46
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Get yourself down to Specsavers mate
tazi tazi
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#126 2 Dec 2018 19:46
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I'll grant ya that my left eye is well fcuked.

Edit - even before the fight when folk asked me who I think will win I told them Fury, I just don't see how he did.

ip100 ip100
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#127 2 Dec 2018 20:14
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Just finished watching it. For me fury won even with the knockdowns. I gave wilder 9&12 10-8 obviously, and round 11 by 10-9. Every other round 10-9 to fury. I could maybe see a case for a 10-10 for round 1. Stats say the same too, fury landed more, but threw less. He made wilder look crude, rigid and very one dimensional. Wilders only positive other than the knockdowns was that he was generally the aggressor which means not a lot imo (being on the back foot has never done may weather any harm has it?!). Its a shame fury had his meltdown for 3 years and ballooned up, I think without that he would have walked that fight. Fatigue played a big part in both knockdowns, the first was half knockdown half stumble imo. Rematch has to happen, but id like to see fury have another fight first just to get the stamina back to where it should be. Credit to wilder, he's got a good engine on him, and that eye wasn't too pretty by the end. I think aj beats fury tbh, he is a better boxer than wilder and can see him getting through a little more than wilder did. Also see him beating wilder as he's not hard to hit, and aj has so much more power than fury.
It says an awful lot when even the majority of Americans seem to be saying fury was robbed
scozza
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#128 2 Dec 2018 20:30
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If Joshua and Wilder fight let me know how much you want to put up I will match it

Joshua's defence is not good at all sadly, he is seriously hittable. Wilder will land, easily, his movement is poor too

If a rematch happens so be it

Might be a Battle of Britain
tazi tazi
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#129 2 Dec 2018 20:39
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Round 1 fury 9 wilder 10

Round 2 fury 10 wilder 10

Round 3 fury 10 wilder 10

Round 4 fury 9 wilder 10

Round 5 fury 10 wilder 10

Round 6 fury 10 wilder 9

Round 7 fury 10 wilder 9

Round 8 fury 10 wilder 9

Round 9 fury 8 wilder 10

Round 10 fury 10 wilder 9

Round 11 fury 9 Wilder 10

Round 12 fury 8 wilder 10

Fury 113 Wilder 116

Lad asked me to keep a score but thought I'd put it on here too.
ip100 ip100
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#130 2 Dec 2018 20:46
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Oh don't get me wrong aj is hittable, I just think wilder is more hittable. And with the extra power aj has he could be a nightmare for wilder. It's one of those whoever lands the big bomb first wins, and I think that's more likely to be aj. I can actually see it happening before the fury wilder rematch. I think once he watches it back wilder will see he was a lucky boy
ip100 ip100
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#131 2 Dec 2018 20:48
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How on earth do you give wilder 10-10 for 2&3? He did absolutely nothing except windmill shots at thin air. Just trying to find the undercard now as it sounds like there were some decent performances
tazi tazi
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#132 2 Dec 2018 20:52
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Fury didn't do much too but I gave 10-10 because it was wilder on the front foot....
scozza
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#133 2 Dec 2018 20:57
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I understand what you are saying and agree, both can bang. I just feel Wilder is too fast and quicker to the punch than AJ. Hopefully we will find out

Tazi, stop letting your mate use you as a sparring partner, sounds like your punch drunk to me, tell him to focus on the bloke with the washing line or the hairy bikers

I'm a sad **** and I've wathced the fight 3 times now lol

When you see the different camera angles Wilder was short or Fury slipped nearly every punch thrown, even at the end of the 2nd I thought Wilder caught him, and he didn't

Styles make fights, Fury fights off the back foot, Wilder is just wild, Fury made him look pretty stupid at times

Anyway, great fight for the fans
ip100 ip100
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#134 2 Dec 2018 21:47
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Fair enough, it's a case of what you like really. Fighters do win rounds without doing much offense though. I think it was Willie pep who won a round without throwing a single punch all those years ago.
ip100 ip100
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#135 2 Dec 2018 21:54
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Yeah he's got quick hands, his problem is he throws so wide they take longer to get there. If he tightened up his shots, threw straighter he'd definitely be way more dangerous. Probably sacrifice a little power for doing it but he carries so much I don't reckon that would be much of a problem. I can see Joe Joyce getting into the mix soon, with him, the winner of chisora v whyte, ortiz, miller, plus aj, wilder and fury there are some cracking fights to be made over the next couple of years. I think Parker is done at world level though
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