In reply to Post #492
Koeman got his tactics wrong, I don't blame the team for that, shame it took him 35 mins to make a change and plug the gap in midfield. From that perspective I'd expect nothing less of the experienced English players to take full advantage but the tactical mistake made them look good.
I don't expect Spain to make the same mistake but as with everything in this comp who knows, though Spain have been consistantlly good. I would like to think Southgate will adopt a more positive approach to the game but again, he's a stickler to what he knows. To everyone watching Kane has done not a lot and Olly has done a lot better in the time he has, it would be a obvious change for me. The stance of Kane occupying defenders doesn't stack up when he's nowhere near the box half the time. Same re Trippier and Rice, keeps playing them even though they're not really earning their place compared to the subs that come on.
Foden was electric, to me with Palmer and Saka they'd run anyone ragid but how often are they getting the chance, as a trio.
Yes Lamals exciting, Cucurella has been superb for Spain, looking forward to watching hime agin.
Koeman got his tactics wrong, I don't blame the team for that, shame it took him 35 mins to make a change and plug the gap in midfield. From that perspective I'd expect nothing less of the experienced English players to take full advantage but the tactical mistake made them look good.
I don't expect Spain to make the same mistake but as with everything in this comp who knows, though Spain have been consistantlly good. I would like to think Southgate will adopt a more positive approach to the game but again, he's a stickler to what he knows. To everyone watching Kane has done not a lot and Olly has done a lot better in the time he has, it would be a obvious change for me. The stance of Kane occupying defenders doesn't stack up when he's nowhere near the box half the time. Same re Trippier and Rice, keeps playing them even though they're not really earning their place compared to the subs that come on.
Foden was electric, to me with Palmer and Saka they'd run anyone ragid but how often are they getting the chance, as a trio.
Yes Lamals exciting, Cucurella has been superb for Spain, looking forward to watching hime agin.
In reply to Post #496
Player for player there is not many I would swap with Spain for me if I'm honest
They are **** in defence. Would love to see JB, Foden and Saka up front, run them to death
Player for player there is not many I would swap with Spain for me if I'm honest
They are **** in defence. Would love to see JB, Foden and Saka up front, run them to death
In reply to Post #497
Viva Espana
Viva Espana
Good luck to everyone today, whoever you support 
Well...
It's a bit uninspiring so far. Same old for England during this tournament
But that's how they've got to the final so who knows?
Balance looks better with Shaw on the left. Mainoo is anonymous- not helped by pickford kicking long every time.
Williams for Spain looks good.
No Rodri for the 2nd half though so that's a big loss for the Spanish
It's a bit uninspiring so far. Same old for England during this tournament
But that's how they've got to the final so who knows?
Balance looks better with Shaw on the left. Mainoo is anonymous- not helped by pickford kicking long every time.
Williams for Spain looks good.
No Rodri for the 2nd half though so that's a big loss for the Spanish
****s
Played well England, thought we were unlucky
Played well England, thought we were unlucky
In reply to Post #501
Nope
Spain were far better and once again, Southgate doesn't play the creative and attacking players. Before Spain scored their second he was about to bring Gallagher and trippier on ffs
You have to feel for players like palmer, Watkins, trent, grealish, even rashford and bowen. And in Bellingham we have a potential ballon d'or player who has been like a gold filling in a glaswegian tramps smile.
Kane was woeful again. Walker at fault for both goals.
So many quality young players who deserve better.
Nope
Spain were far better and once again, Southgate doesn't play the creative and attacking players. Before Spain scored their second he was about to bring Gallagher and trippier on ffs
You have to feel for players like palmer, Watkins, trent, grealish, even rashford and bowen. And in Bellingham we have a potential ballon d'or player who has been like a gold filling in a glaswegian tramps smile.
Kane was woeful again. Walker at fault for both goals.
So many quality young players who deserve better.
In reply to Post #502
Can't disagree with any of that really. Same old same old, get to a semi or final via an easy route and as soon as we come up against anyone decent we fold and lose.
I for one will be glad to see the back of Southgate with his negative and uninspiring brand of football.
You'll never win anything with losers in charge we need someone with that winning mentality.
So who would we all like to see in charge?
Can't disagree with any of that really. Same old same old, get to a semi or final via an easy route and as soon as we come up against anyone decent we fold and lose.
I for one will be glad to see the back of Southgate with his negative and uninspiring brand of football.
You'll never win anything with losers in charge we need someone with that winning mentality.
So who would we all like to see in charge?
In reply to Post #502
Got to agree. I said it before, I couldn't see Southgate changing his approach which is a shame and I hold him responsible for the loss. If he'd have started with a more attacking line up or even made the subs earlier I think England would have stood more of a chance. When he did make the subs it changed the game and I thought Spain were there for the taking but they ran out of time, and Bellingham was running on empty by the time he did. Stones had a pretty good match but there were 2 opportunities where he just seemed a little lazy, could have put a leg out and didn't, think the cross for the 1st goal might of been 1 of them, but cqr. Also at times Rice just didn't push into midfield to help Mainoo from being passed around.
I don't think Spain played that well but they did enough, fair play to them.
Got to agree. I said it before, I couldn't see Southgate changing his approach which is a shame and I hold him responsible for the loss. If he'd have started with a more attacking line up or even made the subs earlier I think England would have stood more of a chance. When he did make the subs it changed the game and I thought Spain were there for the taking but they ran out of time, and Bellingham was running on empty by the time he did. Stones had a pretty good match but there were 2 opportunities where he just seemed a little lazy, could have put a leg out and didn't, think the cross for the 1st goal might of been 1 of them, but cqr. Also at times Rice just didn't push into midfield to help Mainoo from being passed around.
I don't think Spain played that well but they did enough, fair play to them.
In reply to Post #503
Unfortunately the ideal replacement is taking at least a year off from football...
Unfortunately the ideal replacement is taking at least a year off from football...
In reply to Post #505
He's nailed on for the German job and rightly so.
He's nailed on for the German job and rightly so.
In reply to Post #503
Exactly thats
Exactly thats
In reply to Post #503
I agree, the first few games were shockingly poor, boring
The question is, when he changed tactics and played with a back 3 was that planned or out of pure desperation, if it's the latter then he has to go.
Kane is one of the best strikers in the world but Southgate's set up ain't playing to his strength, pace of a donkey in comparison to others. I said below, I wish he would have started without him in this game, we needed outright pace to break and counter and we could have beat the Spanish ****s, they are very average when under pressure and the defence is *****
I agree, the first few games were shockingly poor, boring
The question is, when he changed tactics and played with a back 3 was that planned or out of pure desperation, if it's the latter then he has to go.
Kane is one of the best strikers in the world but Southgate's set up ain't playing to his strength, pace of a donkey in comparison to others. I said below, I wish he would have started without him in this game, we needed outright pace to break and counter and we could have beat the Spanish ****s, they are very average when under pressure and the defence is *****
In reply to Post #502
I thought Walker was superb. Luke Shaw out of position and doubled up on. He did the right thing dropping Rashford, club form he is poor.
That last goal could have gone either way, we had our chances too then you would be singing a different tune. Spain are better in attack buts that's it for me, it's their game. We all knew what they would bring
I thought Walker was superb. Luke Shaw out of position and doubled up on. He did the right thing dropping Rashford, club form he is poor.
That last goal could have gone either way, we had our chances too then you would be singing a different tune. Spain are better in attack buts that's it for me, it's their game. We all knew what they would bring
End of the day Spain were the better team and they won the game simple.