In reply to Post #30
A quite peculiar response seeming as you age spirits in wood for the specific aim of tainting it to impart flavour.
And beer is not brewed in wooden casks - it will be brewed in a stainless or copper kettle, fermented in a stainless tank, then matured in another stainless tank. Occasionally certain beer will be matured further in bottles or casks
And for the tea connoisseurs amongst us look for hand rolled tea if you can get it, keeps much more of the essential oils and flavour compounds compared to the chopped stuff in tea bags.
Proper tea company is my choice if i feel like spending a small fortune other then that its Yorkshire Tea for me. Carplife insulated mug (no lid), scalded and wiped out before every brew washed a few times a year.
A quite peculiar response seeming as you age spirits in wood for the specific aim of tainting it to impart flavour.
And beer is not brewed in wooden casks - it will be brewed in a stainless or copper kettle, fermented in a stainless tank, then matured in another stainless tank. Occasionally certain beer will be matured further in bottles or casks
And for the tea connoisseurs amongst us look for hand rolled tea if you can get it, keeps much more of the essential oils and flavour compounds compared to the chopped stuff in tea bags.
Proper tea company is my choice if i feel like spending a small fortune other then that its Yorkshire Tea for me. Carplife insulated mug (no lid), scalded and wiped out before every brew washed a few times a year.
In reply to Post #29
Dear God, a solution to problem that should never be a problem, great find, there are very few products in the world that prosper purely out of bad design of others. This to me is like an ash tray cover for a motorbike - genius.
Dear God, a solution to problem that should never be a problem, great find, there are very few products in the world that prosper purely out of bad design of others. This to me is like an ash tray cover for a motorbike - genius.
In reply to Post #31
Real ale was and I believe is still brewed in wooden casks and served from hand pumps not like your larger and other chemical carbonated stuff.
Real ale was and I believe is still brewed in wooden casks and served from hand pumps not like your larger and other chemical carbonated stuff.
In reply to Post #33
Wasn't and never has been, as said conditioned mature beer/ ale/ larger will all go through a process similar to what I have already mentioned. The term brew encompasses the full process not the storage of conditioned beer in a final storage medium.
Wooden casks were used until the 50's now a days its extremely rare in "Real Ale" or any form of beer as the risk of infection, and chance for dissolved oxygen absorption is so much higher. and metal is more re-suable and available.
I worked for the second biggest brewery in the uk for several years and have a CIBD certificate in brewing.
Wasn't and never has been, as said conditioned mature beer/ ale/ larger will all go through a process similar to what I have already mentioned. The term brew encompasses the full process not the storage of conditioned beer in a final storage medium.
Wooden casks were used until the 50's now a days its extremely rare in "Real Ale" or any form of beer as the risk of infection, and chance for dissolved oxygen absorption is so much higher. and metal is more re-suable and available.
I worked for the second biggest brewery in the uk for several years and have a CIBD certificate in brewing.
In reply to Post #34
Theakston Old Peculier is a dark ale that is brewed in wooden casks. It is a well-known and award-winning beer that is sold worldwide.
Theakston Old Peculier is a dark ale that is brewed in wooden casks. It is a well-known and award-winning beer that is sold worldwide.
In reply to Post #35
Jack is right Goose, the problem lies in choice of words. Brewing (your brewed) is the process of making the wort which is then fermented to make the beer you drink.
In the old days after fermentation the beer was either casked and sent on its way to be drunk immediately (relatively 'green beer') or it was held back and 'conditioned/matured' in wooden barrels until 'ready'.
Wooden barrels for beer are a thing of the past most likely in the name of consistency, everyone want their pint to be the same as the last. Stainless also outlasts wood, there are very few coopers left, very sad.
Every now and then a speciality beer will be made, aged in wooden casks, to say impart a bourbon flavour, think Innis & Gunn is one of the top of my head.
I was a very keen home brewer. One thing I hate in beer, crystal malt in all but the smallest amounts, it gives the beer a really metallic taste (to me)
If you want to know how far beer companies will go to ensure consistency, consider this. They'll remove all trace minerals from the water used and then add back in what they want to get the results they want. If say you want to make a particular 'style' of beer you can go online and find the profile of the water you need. In the case of beers like Peculiar it tasted like it did because of the water used in that area to a good degree, obv lots of other factors in play, vip being yeast. Believe it or not in Eurooe the taste could differ by which water well they used, even a few hundred yards apart!
All fascinating stuff
Jack is right Goose, the problem lies in choice of words. Brewing (your brewed) is the process of making the wort which is then fermented to make the beer you drink.
In the old days after fermentation the beer was either casked and sent on its way to be drunk immediately (relatively 'green beer') or it was held back and 'conditioned/matured' in wooden barrels until 'ready'.
Wooden barrels for beer are a thing of the past most likely in the name of consistency, everyone want their pint to be the same as the last. Stainless also outlasts wood, there are very few coopers left, very sad.
Every now and then a speciality beer will be made, aged in wooden casks, to say impart a bourbon flavour, think Innis & Gunn is one of the top of my head.
I was a very keen home brewer. One thing I hate in beer, crystal malt in all but the smallest amounts, it gives the beer a really metallic taste (to me)
If you want to know how far beer companies will go to ensure consistency, consider this. They'll remove all trace minerals from the water used and then add back in what they want to get the results they want. If say you want to make a particular 'style' of beer you can go online and find the profile of the water you need. In the case of beers like Peculiar it tasted like it did because of the water used in that area to a good degree, obv lots of other factors in play, vip being yeast. Believe it or not in Eurooe the taste could differ by which water well they used, even a few hundred yards apart!
All fascinating stuff
In reply to Post #32
In its (slight) defence, titanium cups are made for backpacking where weight is all important, not lounging around at the side of a carp puddle...
In its (slight) defence, titanium cups are made for backpacking where weight is all important, not lounging around at the side of a carp puddle...
In reply to Post #38
Dear god !!
If it ain't enough seeing birds with rubber lips now carp anglers can join in.
Dear god !!
If it ain't enough seeing birds with rubber lips now carp anglers can join in.
In reply to Post #39
The Essex Carp Show missed a trick there...
The Essex Carp Show missed a trick there...
In reply to Post #29
I've got to ask, why? If your tasty beverage is so hot it burns your lips why would you want it anywhere near your tongue or masticatory mucosa*?
I was gong to say cheeks but thought better of it
Reminds me of molten cheese from a pizza, that stuff is like napalm
I've got to ask, why? If your tasty beverage is so hot it burns your lips why would you want it anywhere near your tongue or masticatory mucosa*?
I was gong to say cheeks but thought better of it
Reminds me of molten cheese from a pizza, that stuff is like napalm
yeti mugs all the way.
brilliant kit - not only do they keep your tea hot, they also keep your booze cold
the wine tumbers are brilliant for fishing tea cups.
virtually indestructible too - proper buy-it-for-life items.
brilliant kit - not only do they keep your tea hot, they also keep your booze cold
the wine tumbers are brilliant for fishing tea cups. virtually indestructible too - proper buy-it-for-life items.
In reply to Post #38
Saving those extra few grams makes all the difference on the power barrow!
Saving those extra few grams makes all the difference on the power barrow!
In reply to Post #43
In my defense and ti's I used to do a lot of hill walking where lack of weight can help, but tbh I'd be fitter with a heavier pack...hmmm
In my defense and ti's I used to do a lot of hill walking where lack of weight can help, but tbh I'd be fitter with a heavier pack...hmmm
In reply to Post #44
Yeah I can see why a ti cup would be handy but I just can't help myself...!
It reminds me of when me & Mrs Clonker went to the Peak District a few years back. We decided to go to a blue john mine that we hadn't been to before & on the website it didn't look too much of a walk to get to. Well, once we got there we realised it was quite a steep & long walk up the zig zagging concrete steps to get up to the entrance. We were running late so we rushed up the steps as fast as we could so we didn't miss the time slot. That's when we realised just how unfit we were at the time. I honestly felt like I was going to have a heart attack but I kept pushing forwards with my heart leaping from my chest knowing that if I stopped I wouldn't be able to get going again. I finally made it nearly to the top & stopped on a bench - I thought I was going to die. Mrs Clonker was lagging behind in tears & I whimpered words of encouragement to her in between palpitations & seeing stars.
Finally she caught up & we got to the entrance just in the nick of time! We entered & soon realised the place was completely empty.. The tour guide laughed & said we were the only ones booked in that morning & it wouldn't have mattered if we were late..
To rub salt into the wounds the cave was the worst we've ever been to.
Thankfully we're both much fitter now. We still regularly reminisce & laugh about it.
Never again.
Yeah I can see why a ti cup would be handy but I just can't help myself...!
It reminds me of when me & Mrs Clonker went to the Peak District a few years back. We decided to go to a blue john mine that we hadn't been to before & on the website it didn't look too much of a walk to get to. Well, once we got there we realised it was quite a steep & long walk up the zig zagging concrete steps to get up to the entrance. We were running late so we rushed up the steps as fast as we could so we didn't miss the time slot. That's when we realised just how unfit we were at the time. I honestly felt like I was going to have a heart attack but I kept pushing forwards with my heart leaping from my chest knowing that if I stopped I wouldn't be able to get going again. I finally made it nearly to the top & stopped on a bench - I thought I was going to die. Mrs Clonker was lagging behind in tears & I whimpered words of encouragement to her in between palpitations & seeing stars.
Finally she caught up & we got to the entrance just in the nick of time! We entered & soon realised the place was completely empty.. The tour guide laughed & said we were the only ones booked in that morning & it wouldn't have mattered if we were late..
To rub salt into the wounds the cave was the worst we've ever been to.
Thankfully we're both much fitter now. We still regularly reminisce & laugh about it.
Never again.
In reply to Post #45
the Mrs has just said that'd be us!
Blue John mines, the Mrs chopper brakes all but failed on the way there
Wat Tham Suea, Thailand was our Blue John...1200 steps, prob 1:3 and some of the steps were taller than Mrs VS knees...we made the 1st flight. The 40 deg temps didn't help....that's my excuse anyway
LINKY POO™ https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-1237-steps-to-the-top-of-the-mountain-buddhist-temple-tiger-cave-wat-76987577.html
Edit, Mrs V adds, we gave up, went down, had ice cream and the monkey tried to pinch hers 🤣 My memory, trinket stall manned by monk, monkey lands on roof then its arm comes round and tried to grab something, said monk was ready with a great big stick!
It all started with black tea cups
the Mrs has just said that'd be us!Blue John mines, the Mrs chopper brakes all but failed on the way there
Wat Tham Suea, Thailand was our Blue John...1200 steps, prob 1:3 and some of the steps were taller than Mrs VS knees...we made the 1st flight. The 40 deg temps didn't help....that's my excuse anyway
LINKY POO™ https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-1237-steps-to-the-top-of-the-mountain-buddhist-temple-tiger-cave-wat-76987577.html
Edit, Mrs V adds, we gave up, went down, had ice cream and the monkey tried to pinch hers 🤣 My memory, trinket stall manned by monk, monkey lands on roof then its arm comes round and tried to grab something, said monk was ready with a great big stick!
It all started with black tea cups