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   Old Thread  #130 19 May 2022 at 9.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thereís a limit to that though to be fair, putting it out there I have no doubt over his bait credentials, but prices WILL increase from him soon thereís no two ways about it, of tge very few times Iíve spoken to him he seems to be brimming with integrity so he would be cutting anything but costs WILL be increasing. And rightly so.

Milks have gone up at least 50% and will continue to do so. As will egg products, fishmeal due for another increase, and this is all just this year, any bait formulated more than ten years ago will be at least 25% more expensive to produce now with the same ingredients.

And for the record and yes Iím bias anglers donít realise we also need to make a living.
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   Old Thread  #129 19 May 2022 at 8.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But in all business ventures you have static costs and variable costsÖ rent, etc is the same every month regardless of how much product you sell, where as material costs are dependant on the amount you sell.

So if you sell 2000kg a week your rental costs are 2000 a week thatís a pound per kgÖ.

Also electricity etc, granted more bait more machines etc running higher costs, but things like lighting etc will be the same costs every month. There lots of static monthly costs that work in the larger companies advantageÖ. They can also sell at a lower profit margin, cos the volume boosts there profitsÖ

Stack it high and sell it as cheap as possible, weíve all heard that before.
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   Old Thread  #128 19 May 2022 at 5.51pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Huge loyal customer base all over Europe, probably the most consistent bait maker ever and there bait has been catching fish rather than anglers for a very long time now.
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   Old Thread  #127 19 May 2022 at 5.09pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like you said, you donít really know what they are doing so who knows. Clearly selling enough to be able to keep prices down for customers and make enough to be comfortable. Same canít be said of a majority of other firms. Whatever they are doing is working.
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   Old Thread  #126 19 May 2022 at 3.48pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #125 19 May 2022 at 2.32pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was complementing your relationship?!
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   Old Thread  #124 19 May 2022 at 2.26pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ah the trolls back 😂 I pay delivery like everyone else 😉
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   Old Thread  #123 19 May 2022 at 2.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They must really like you if they are selling you less and using 4 times as much diesel delivering it to you.
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   Old Thread  #122 19 May 2022 at 2.07pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Essential arenít selling metric tonnes a day so arenít buying tens of tones of each ingredient. There isnít a lot of movement ton items from sack to tone price less than a tenner a bag on high spec milks but Iím fortunate to get the tonne price on a lot. Pretty much because I buy as much but physically cannot store it, most people get month deliveries from suppliers I get one to two a week. But of say, 750kg of ingredient as opposed to 5 tonne. Some people like me lol
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   Old Thread  #121 19 May 2022 at 1.34pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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more bait you sell the easier it is to lower price points and still retain profit. If someone has to make a living off selling 20kg a week they need to sell at a higher price than someone making a living from selling 200kg a week.
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   Old Thread  #120 19 May 2022 at 1.07pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some suppliers donít.
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   Old Thread  #119 19 May 2022 at 9.14am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There are no level playing feilds in business, suppliers tell lies. Not as bad as it used to. Once had a trade account with Travis but never used it as most materials could be bought from wicks who are owned by Travis for a quarter of the price.
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   Old Thread  #118 19 May 2022 at 0.35am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We buy from the same suppliers for a lot of bulk ingredients, Iím not sure what heís making a day but essential arenít considered a very large company compared to some, there wonít be a lot of cost different in ingredient as I get time prices on the sack because some people like me 😂
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   Old Thread  #117 18 May 2022 at 8.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #116 18 May 2022 at 8.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Don't think he supplies any shops now, think he has a huge very loyal customer base. When I used b5 a guy I met was buying it from a shop at trade plus 10% Mark up for shop but was buying a few hundred kg at a time shared between friends. I'm not using it now but I know he still buys large quantities direct.
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