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Good I’m pleased we are both part of the 1% group.
I’m not advocating the op wastes money I think you can cut the learning experience and faffing about moving up the scale of equipment. To me there are benefits from both approaches. I do think getting casting lessons would be money well spent and allow the Op to experience a few different rods.
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#51 15 May 2022 at 1.54pm | |  1 | |
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Not really. I’m a sarcastic **** and I often say what I think which upsets people.
The fact remains that buying high end gear when you don’t know why or what aspect of carp fishing you prefer can be a costly mistake. Nobody wants to waste money, least of all those who have worked hard to earn it
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#50 15 May 2022 at 1.53pm | | 1 | |
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To be fair 99% of people on here are great. We have different views at times which is healthy.
To clarify Noj is part of that 99%
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#49 15 May 2022 at 1.51pm | | | |
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I wasn’t suggesting 20lb fish as small fry, I still love catching tench. I’d treat all fish with the same respect as I’m sure we all do. I’ll always remember hearing on the grape vine during the 80s that Nash unfortunately dropped a 40lb sadly, from that equipment developed. One of the first items I purchased as a kid was a decent unhooking mat.
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#48 15 May 2022 at 1.41pm | | | |
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noj your a nice fella aint you 
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#47 15 May 2022 at 1.39pm | | | |
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That is great advise one that I would equally advocate. And probably why I still have three sets as I’d get little for them if I sold a set.
My initial intention was to offer alternative possibilities for the op to consider. There isn’t a one size fits all in this life.
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#46 15 May 2022 at 1.38pm | | | |
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iv had 20s when course and match fishing at places like bodington res and larford lakes! Not novice in fishing bud just not had the experience going for big carp!
yah just saying that if i want smaller carp id just carry on course/match fishing! And said holme fen because i like bigger waters not just because got monster carp
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#45 15 May 2022 at 1.31pm | | | |
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I really think you are missing the point, why do people wear 100k watches or iPhone cases covered in diamonds. Out of my reach and maybe off point here’s another example I could buy a black and decker drill or a Dewalt or a Hilti. I believe the Hilti to be the best I may only need it for putting a few screws in and like shoes I invest my money wisely and buy quality knowing from all sorts of examples that in the most part paying for good quality equipment usually pays for its self in the long term.
I have seen people like to look of a particular CD player a well liked brand, auditioned it and willingly spend 12 grand on one, in one instance a particular lady bought her son one as well.
Sorry Noj I re-read your post and you where on the money regarding err money spent. As for size of fish I’ve put another post on
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#44 15 May 2022 at 1.29pm | | | |
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I would recommend seriously considering going down the second hand route. Carp fishing has always been a rotisserie of gear with people chopping and changing gear for no practical reason whatsoever. As such, there's some great bargains to be had on the second hand market if you've content with (a) not owning the latest model and (b) not bothered about using the most in-vogue rod spec. For example, I regularly see the older Century and Harrison model rods for between £50 - £125 each on ebay.
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#43 15 May 2022 at 1.20pm | | 1 | |
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Yes. Especially the first post where the chap states he doesn’t know what lengths and test curves to go with and his other thread asking when to use a solid bag.
No offence intended to anybody but if you’re asking those questions there’s very little point in having tackle worth double what Terry Hearn and Jim Shelley use.
I don’t care if somebody uses Rolex straps as hangers and free lined truffles as bait, it’s their money. It’s the dismissive attitude of 20s as small fry that comes across as arrogant and ignorant
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#42 15 May 2022 at 1.06pm | | | |
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Have you even bothered to read the thread. The chap claimed he was a tackle tart from the off and provided a list of equipment that would cost more than most avid carp anglers wish list.
I am assuming he has been fishing for sometime and he’s not new to
sport, for all I know this guy could go shark fishing.
I get where you are coming from as I certainly wouldn’t “be able to” get the finest set up from the off else I would have don’t it 35 years ago (obviously things move on). None the less I’ve worked for many a person that will buy the best they can.
Again anglers that went from catching 20lb fish in the UK to catching 50/60/70s in France I’m not suggesting you go into it willy nilly as we have the internet which has lots of information.
Offer the guy and myself some words of wisdom about larger fish. as he is hell bent in doing it regardless of what we say.
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#41 15 May 2022 at 7.12am | | 3 | |
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Gentle You need to be confident, not gentle.
I’m not talking about how heavy a fish is. Pretty sure locals on Holme fen and the like would be really chuffed if a newcomer accidentally dropped or tethered a big fish because its all a learning curve isn’t it?
And rods… there’s no point buying high end with attributes you don’t actually understand yet. Buy the best by all means if you can afford it, but 3-4k for your first set up is bonkers
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#40 15 May 2022 at 2.13am | | | |
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No it’s not, one set was purchased of my selling 2/3 of my inheritance of my Grandfathers Trout and Salmon gear I kept the rest once I retire from carp fishing I a decade or so.
It will be interesting to hear what Rods you like/purchase.
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#39 15 May 2022 at 2.04am | | 1 | |
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I hadn’t handled a 20 before I caught one nor a 30 if you have had plenty of tench bream and smaller carp then imho should be fine with larger fish, just be gentle.. I’d like to catch a 50 and have the potential to do so on one of the waters I still planning on fishing I can’t practice holding one prior to catching one.
By all means be prepared and have decent sized mats etc.it is worth noting though that a landing net with a collapsible spreader block is imo essential for larger fish.
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#38 14 May 2022 at 11.54pm | | | |
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I guess this is where the point of different strokes for different folks applies, if it’s what he’ll enjoy then he should do it 🙂
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