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#18 12 May 2022 at 2.56pm | | 2 |  |
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In reply to Post #17 I can think of one person that "knows" it all......
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#17 12 May 2022 at 2.07pm | | 1 |  |
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In reply to Post #16 That's what makes this game so interesting none of us have all the answers and no two experiences are ever the same.
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#16 12 May 2022 at 1.40pm | | 1 |  |
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In reply to Post #15 Fair enough mate. By the sounds of it we have completely opposing ideas when it comes to liquid attraction. I really do believe hydros have bags of attraction,whereas you well know my thoughts on flavours. By the sounds of it both work pretty well so who really knows?!
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#15 12 May 2022 at 1.33pm | | 2 |  |
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In reply to Post #12 My boilies have powdered hydrolysed ingredients, I think they increase or intensify the taste of a boilie and of course they help with nutritional availability to the fish, but attraction, I'm not convinced. Depending on the bait, I can easily add free aminos or sugars to a bait if I think its necessary, usually just for short/medium term attraction and I have a small number of flavours that provide the initial attraction/investigation.
Like you I add Spices to nearly every bait I make, I think carp like the taste of them.
I add liquid hydros to pellets and groundbait mainly to increase their weight to reduce spread in deep water and it has the benefit of getting the taste of my bait into the water but that is a side benefit if I'm honest.
If I've made a good bait one sign I see is that the fish prefer my boilies to anything else, be that pellets, particles or alternative hookbaits. I've made enough poor or average bait to see the signs, pva bags of pellet proving better than stringers/bags of boilies, when I do get it right the opposite is the case and matching hookbaits completely outfish alternatives..whether I have a good or bad bait I haven't found glugging the free bait makes any difference to my catches, as someone said earlier it just cloaks the natural attraction from the boilie.
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#14 12 May 2022 at 1.15pm | | |  |
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In reply to Post #13 You can add them to anything. I’ve started putting them on cornflakes and they make a superb addition to speciality coffees.
For milks how about trying the BAF peanut hydro ?
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#13 12 May 2022 at 1.02pm | | |  |
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Is it possible to add hydros to 100% milk protein baits , if so what ones would be suitable ?
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#12 12 May 2022 at 12.55pm | | |  |
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In reply to Post #11 Absolutely they do mate. 100% . Dont ask me the science behind it as I've no clue or interest in that as you know, but what I do know is my baits are so so much better with a good dose of hydro in them than without. Tbh I don't really glug or soak my baits at all and rely on what I put in them and they really do work. A couple of good hydros mixed with a couple of good spices is deadly.
Can I ask why you are them to pellets and groundbait but not boilies? As pellets and groundbait have their own attraction aswell ? Probably moreso than boilies in a lot of cases
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#11 12 May 2022 at 12.32pm | | |  |
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In reply to Post #8 Are you sure Hydro liquids, and that is a broad term I know, actually act as attractors, I am far from convinced on a boilie they add a thing extra, I do add them to pellets and groundbait but not boilies, they have there own attraction.
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#10 12 May 2022 at 11.36am | | |  |
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In reply to Post #9 I cover my hook link and lead in Hydro liquid if I’m using mesh bags as it gets a lot of attraction in water columns if I’m using a pva bag I coat the bag in it it also slows down the melting of bag if I’m in deeper water
It gives me confidence this way maybe increase my chances of a bite
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#9 12 May 2022 at 11.06am | | |  |
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In reply to Post #7 Hydros on the inside and hydros soaked onto the surface. Best of both worlds.
Bear in mind that the cooking process affects some of the goodness of the hydrolysates so having them both inside and soaking a bait is good.
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#8 12 May 2022 at 10.49am | | |  |
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In reply to Post #7 What you are doing is adding attraction. It's nothing to do with flavour at that point. And lots of baits don't actually have flavours as such. It's irrelevant what the bait tastes like to them if they don't eat it in the first place...
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So I pick a boilie that boasts hydro content and a flavour profile that’s taken months if not longer to create….then I smother it in a fish hydro for example. Flavour profile obliterated surely?
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#6 11 May 2022 at 8.31pm | | 1 |  |
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In reply to Post #4 I agree - I'm currently reducing the eggs in my mix and making up the extra liquid with hydroslates and extracts. Softer baits but great for shorter sessions.
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I use hydrolysed products a lot, but I am curious why people use them, are you looking to add attraction, taste or nutrition to your mix, also I do wonder what liquid hydros bring to a mix that powders don't other than a lot of preservatives. Glugging yes I can understand but within a mix, not so sure.
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In reply to Post #1 Its money for one of the most efficient ways to boost virtually any baits effectiveness.
hydros are the absolutely king of the wet ingredients ( and the powdered ones are also awesome ) I'd never make a bait without a heavy hydro content, mixed with fresh eggs on a decent base mix you really arent going to ever go wrong. you'd have to do a significant amount to ruin the bait, like not cast it out lol
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