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In reply to Post #152
Investing time effort and money into mixing blends and sending them to trusted anglers to test. It can get quite expensive but proportions matter and then one angler will be quite generous with how much they use others will be very very conservative etc. They get as much as they use so it’s not a cost thing to them, they understand the gravy train runs so long as valid data is the return. There is expectations both ways but then I can use my own experiences and that of my anglers and come up with spread sheets thst present the data in a visual and tangible way to me.
I can then make alterations based on the date and predict a result ( over time ) and if it follows the predicted trend I know certain theories about why and how each item is working merit more investigation.
It’s slow but it’s thorough, I’ve only just released a second boilie range and I’ve been trading in an official capacity since January 2014 😂 I resisted the nut bait trend as long as I could haha.
As for your current bait, figure out what you want tge hydros to add, then figure out the qualities of the individual components and there best working method, and go from there.
For example I find Minamino makes zero different in bait if it is added pre-boiling and I’ve tried from 5g all the way up to 110g per kilo, but added after wards it’s a different beast.
As a starting point all marine / meat hydros are more effective post boiling, but some are very valid to still add prior to cooking.
Also as an add on I wasn’t referring to Minamino as a hydro, merely a liquid component in a mix 
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In reply to Post #151
I catch a few pike with cod liver oil hemp mix injected
Shaken up and injected, is cod liver oil good for carp
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In reply to Post #151
how did you come up with you mixes for these hydro cocktails? love the sound of it. id love to have a play with making a mix to match my current bait i roll.
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In reply to Post #148
I don't look at it as a "vs" situation, minamino is extremely expensive, but it works very well mixed with hydros.
I used to sell a minamino, calanus, liquid yeast and liquid keramine mix. it was awesome. a coupleof the powders I dissolved into it I cannot get in any quantity anymore so no longer sell it, still, a 50-50 split with minamino and a hydro is always a winner.
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In reply to Post #147
my favourite firm is mine lol. I know who you mean, some companies have their differences but I will only go on personal experience with stuff. virtually everyone with large ranges has some crap stuff.
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In reply to Post #146
Whatever floats your boat, I tend to use chops so just add a load of off cuts and chops to a bucket and add hydro if I'm using it. its so effective you cant really use it incorectly unless you put it in your tea
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In reply to Post #143
what do you think about minamino vs hydro? what would be the optimal amount in a boilies if we refer to minamino, what does it combine well with? a fish or vegetable liquid. Cheers.
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In reply to Post #145
I'd already contacted them at that point nick. But yeah they have been decent in the end. Funnily enough though someone at your favourite company near me was slating them massively not so long back for the quality of their hydros!
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In reply to Post #143
Cheers mozzi very helpfull. I grab some of that to with the other stuff .can all these be coated on boilies before they go in freezer or is it best to soak them for few days or night before a ses once they come out freezer .
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In reply to Post #144
Said from tge beginning to contact them. Helpful pleasant people
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Update on my issues with baf
Been speaking to cal (very helpful guy) , it appears checking the batch numbers I was sent old stock ,he has assured me I won't receive that again and is sending out replacements foc and told me to keep the runny stuff to use as I please.
So it's taken a while but if I do get what I wanted in the first place all is well in the end
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In reply to Post #139
if you want to you can, I believe its the base chemicals rather than the smell which cause some flavours to have investigative trigger reactions and depending on how its been compounded will be what dictates its best application.
If you want a smell reminiscent of monster crab, theres a natural way to do it now oddly enough, get yourself some "calanus hydro" - its made from calanus a type of plankton and its one of the best things you can add to a bait inside or out, I get a slight whiff familiar to monster crab but a real food like umami kick also. being naturally a bit thinner than some hydros it works brilliantly to coat baits and hookbaits. in feed bait 50-100ml per kilo of feed is ample, in pots of pop ups, being mindful of the buoyancy, a teaspoon or two in the tub will help it immensely.
As with all things fresh is best. I would happily purchase from any moderately busy tackle shop but avoid any dusty bottles.
Madbaits, aa, handcraft and myself also sell it but for the purpose of transparency as I do not pay any fees on here I'd say it would be fairer to purchase form one of the other three.
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Little tip from someone who uses compounds that react with eggs on a daily basis ( gotta love the butyric )
Add enough basemix to turn your eggs into a sort of sludgey consistency, a bit like guacamole or bolognese, then add the strong liquids, it wont react with the eggs in the same way.
This is if you arent using another liquid to dilute it first, or don't want to risk it reacting with other, more expensive than egg ingredients.
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In reply to Post #140
think you've answered your own question there
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In reply to Post #139
This extremely strong crab flavour has an aroma that you will never ever forget. This super pungent essence has proved to be one of the most successful bait flavours ever used on the market. It is a notorious carp catching flavour. It is also particularly effective when used with Black Pepper oil.
Recommended inclusion levels for this concentrate are 3-10ml per kg base mix.The lower level comes through nicely and the high level comes through strong. We have actually tested this concentrate up to 20ml per kg base mix with excellent results.
For high attract pop ups we recommend adding up to 3ml per 1 egg mix.
This concentrate CAN NOT be added to the liquid egg neat, it must be added to the liquid pack first.
Please note: This is a strong flavour so a little goes a long way. Also we would not recommend using in the house as this one has a very very strong aroma.
All our concentrated flavours are of the highest grade/quality available on the market
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