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   Old Thread  #20 29 Apr 2022 at 12.10pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nick when fishing naked do you tend to just use a lead clip? Also do you find you have to use stiff rigs to avoid tangles?


I don't use lead clips at all, always a run ring and running lead, either with slack line if there is no undertow or tight line if there is.

My hooklinks are usually braid or coated braid and I don't or rarely get tangles as I usually use a pva bag, stringer or mesh, and I nearly always hit the clip which pushes the hooklink away. The bottom of my syndicate doesn't lend itself very well to combi-rigs as the boom or stiff section would often be across weed.
The 'rarely' on tangles does happen when a blooming coot or tufty picks up the bait though.


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   Old Thread  #19 28 Apr 2022 at 6.10am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just got some Gardner lead free. Once you get the needle in it, absolute doddle to splice compared to the previous brand I tried
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   Old Thread  #18 28 Apr 2022 at 4.27am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Acts much much stiffer than lead core. it got changed from the decent stuff - I know people that were involved. new stuff is horrible in my opinion. that linkq stuff is meant to be decent though
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   Old Thread  #17 26 Apr 2022 at 1.37pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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any idea where i can get some of that tubing ? looks sold out online everywhere
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   Old Thread  #16 26 Apr 2022 at 6.00am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nick when fishing naked do you tend to just use a lead clip? Also do you find you have to use stiff rigs to avoid tangles?
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   Old Thread  #15 10 Apr 2022 at 3.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’ve found it best way to thread tubing is to “nip” the end between your feet, pull it so you’ve just taken the slack out and then thread, works well even with wet or dirty tube.
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   Old Thread  #14 10 Apr 2022 at 2.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The easiest way to thread tubing is with a pole threader, any tackle shop that sells match fishing tackle will know this.
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   Old Thread  #13 10 Apr 2022 at 1.47pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think leadcore still has its place if used (as Nick G says) in conjunction with a heli type set up - but only when abrasion problems are a real issue (razor mussels /rocks) and help stop losing fish on every take etc. Leaders in general also have a place when casting mega distance etc however for most general carping tubing does the job - try rigmarole freefall braided tubing, great stuff - acts and looks like leadcore . . .

Best tip for threading any tubing - hold the length vertically in one hand and then feed the mainline 'over your shoulder' from behind with the opposite hand - best done standing up - don't ask me why but works 9 times out of 10 no probs
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   Old Thread  #12 10 Apr 2022 at 7.41am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I normally fish naked mainline, but sometimes you might need the protection of tubing.

Before we go any further, it is Anti-Tangle Tubing, used originally to reduce or protect from tangles, the hooklink twisting, ergo, tangling around the mainline.
While others may claim it stops the line lifting scales on fish, I think this was a myth perpetrated by tackle brands to sell more...
I have not knowingly lifted a scale with naked mainline, and do we fish tubing with zig rig fishing or floater fishing?


I have played with various tubing brands, and a few have been discontinued over time, but I do still use the Fox anti tangle tubing.
I don't like the tungsten tubing, they can split, or crayfish will rip them apart if there are crayfish in your water.

Threading tubing can be a pain, but using a tube threader helps.
Otherwise, straighten the tubing, cut your line to a point, and use fresh line, you don't want any twists or kinks.

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   Old Thread  #11 10 Apr 2022 at 7.13am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never had any of the main brands kink or break. I tend to use either nash or korda which are fine to thread and I use 20lb main line.
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   Old Thread  #10 9 Apr 2022 at 10.43pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think reading some of this I may just stick to what I know to be honest.

The only thing I really hate is TUBING! Threading it and having to redo it time and time again if it kinks and breaks, tried lots down the years and never really found any great ones!
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   Old Thread  #9 9 Apr 2022 at 12.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i was in the same boat as you for a long time but i started using leaders about 6 or 7 years ago. i'm back using tubing now, i couldn't see any difference or benefit in paying more for leadcore or leadfree and it's not as safe in the event of a main line breakage, save your money mate
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   Old Thread  #8 8 Apr 2022 at 5.17pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Check out Matt Collins on Youtube for some safe rig advice too
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   Old Thread  #7 8 Apr 2022 at 4.11pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm going to be totally honest here... I've been fishing for carp for 30 years or so now and I've never used leadcore or any leaders of any sort...

I've only ever used tubing or straight through in all that time, more recently because I fished a few lakes for many years which had banned all leaders. I'm now on two new lakes both of which don't have leader bans...

Are leaders really worth it? How safe are they really? I've always hated the idea of using them, but one of the lakes particularly lends itself to using them by the look of being gin clear, quite weedy in places but some nice silt gullies too


I'll give you my take on it, after experimentation and getting into the water to examine leaders, leadcore versus Mainline.

Leadcore posed a risk to fish when they got snagged. It only took around 6-12inches wrapped around a thick twig to snag a fish, leading to tethering.
The safest set-up with leadcore is a helicopter rig, and the lead MUST NOT be ejected. The top beads and rig must be able to slide over the leader to Mainline join. Any inline, leadclip or running lead set-up is a tethering waiting to happen should the line break.

Any leader is a potential risk, the weakest point from breakage is always the Mainline to leader knot, and any leader can tangle up in weed or around snags, even the leader knot itself can catch up the weed, which puts extra tension on the line.
My view is that if you use a leader, the lead MUST be able to come off, preferably the lead and lead attachment, so I don't think they lend themselves to lead clips as even the lead clip can catch weed.

If there is heavy weed or snags, then accept you can't use a shockleader and only cast as far as your Mainline in a responsible breaking strain allows.

Mainline straight through is what I have used for a few years now, and with some long casts to over 100metres. I will go naked or use tubing.
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   Old Thread  #6 8 Apr 2022 at 11.06am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Personally don't use those either and will try and use the reel line straight through to the rig if possible and will use tubing to pin down. If using a helicopter type rig I use lead free leader settup as it is far less likely to kink. The thread that was on here a long time ago showed numerous fish tethered in snags by leadcore.
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