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   Old Thread  #26 26 Apr 2022 at 2.41pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #25 21 Apr 2022 at 11.51am  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have been using stiff hooklinks, like fox illusion 0.50mm or Gardner, and an anti tangle sleeve, as suggested in the thread, and it is working really well. I caught a couple of really special fish doing this over the weekend, so thanks all for the advice
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   Old Thread  #24 16 Apr 2022 at 4.51pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Look at Gemini Tackle, they will have all you need.
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   Old Thread  #23 15 Apr 2022 at 10.49am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Iíve been trying to get on board with helis as like the fact I can change to a chod easily if need be which suits a lot of my situations. Iíve been getting plenty of tangles and was thinking of moving over to a stiffer hook link material to see if that helps
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   Old Thread  #22 12 Apr 2022 at 10.57am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks - I have gone with a fluoro hooklink and longer sleeve to try, I think this combined with the casting 'focus' will solve it
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   Old Thread  #21 11 Apr 2022 at 8.20pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gardener trick link 25lb . Itís just a mono that I steam straight . Iím pretty sure it would work with any stiff or semi stiff rig material
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   Old Thread  #20 11 Apr 2022 at 8.20am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks mate, appreciate the tips! I will give that a try. I think it is in all honesty where I was so used to leadclips being a bit more forgiving, I need some more finesse in my casting.
Not using soft braid, using either stiff coated braid or fluoro.

It isn't a constant issue, I have been doing this through spring last year until now, it is more every now and again the tell tale kink in the hooklink, probably 1 in 15 casts. I have caught more fish through this time then previous seasons on lake so it is working, I just want to remove this kinked hooklink issue.

I am going to add a sleeve instead of a loop, and I am going to really concentrate on my casting style.

Thanks for all the tips gents!
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   Old Thread  #19 10 Apr 2022 at 8.51pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Another tip, if your good with judging range. Feather the line gently before it hits the water (my rod is to the side when I do this) and while itís going down pull back a little bit SLOWLY before it hits the bottom

Not sure what hook link material you are using either but I would avoid short soft braid ones
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   Old Thread  #18 10 Apr 2022 at 4.36pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm with Yonny, helicopter rigs can still tangle.

I won't use quicklinks, preferring to go back to tying my hooklink onto the swivel, which I think actually helps reduce tangles as it is slightly more rigid than a loop to quicklink.

If I'm using the rod as a rover, casting to showing fish rather than at a particular distance or even casting as far as I can, I won't be using a line clip.
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   Old Thread  #17 10 Apr 2022 at 8.47am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers mate!
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   Old Thread  #16 10 Apr 2022 at 7.44am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I use a semi stiff coated braid but albright knot a stripped section to the chod section instead of using a swivel etc. As stated, hitting the clip correctly is critical so recast if at all unsure. You can actually watch a heli rig in the air if not fishing at extreme range. Check your top bead set up as these can come free and the rig flies high up the mainline when fishing naked and can create tangles. Other than that i find the rig tangle free in the main. Just like anything, attention to detail in the cast.
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   Old Thread  #15 8 Apr 2022 at 3.59pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
@framey and yonny - yes, that's how I interpret it too; you know when it's not right.
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   Old Thread  #14 8 Apr 2022 at 8.11am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not too early giving time for bounce-back, and not too late so the rig doesn't have time to flick fully away from the lead/leader. You need it just right so the clip is hit, the rig/hookbait flicks away from the lead, the tip goes down on a tight line.... perfect. You just know when it's right imo.
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   Old Thread  #13 7 Apr 2022 at 9.07pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks mate - what hooklink are you using, if you donít mind me asking?
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   Old Thread  #12 7 Apr 2022 at 9.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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To me
When it just about hit the clip and doesnít come back 20 yards or cracks off

It just feels and sounds right
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