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I've only got one product from OMC so far and that was a present for my birthday in February off the mother in law which the wife suggested to her, it was one of the waterproof beanies, after 24 hours on the bank wearing it it was like a fat bird sat on your head all sloppy and floppy wasn't impressed with it tbf, then again I've never owned any clothing by Ted Baker to compare it to.
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In reply to Post #98
Not all of them are though. The ones in your link would be massive on a hook
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In reply to Post #98
I'm sure years ago for some strange reason I put a blob of araldite on me hook, god knows why but its a thought
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hook beads?
You do know hook beads are repurposed and recoloured ear ring backs don't you?
Something else I twigged with no carp tax.
My other alternative is 2 layers of small shrink tube.
With the beads I used to use a dab of clear nail varnish to stop it moving, or shrink tube, which defeated the object of a bead anyway.
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The ESP ones do seem the best but still have to double them up to stop them slipping on a size 4 Mugga when fishing over 60 yards.
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In reply to Post #95
use the esp ones, although not really beads they dont move much like other beads.
If only someone could come up with a proper distance bead that doesn't move 
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In reply to Post #94
What happened with Richard Madeley? did your letter to GMTV get ignored? sorry just joking.
Ive used a variety of hook beads and for those that are slipping just use a larger hook size, or use the esp ones, although not really beads they dont move much like other beads.
Look forward to seeing the OMC beads
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In reply to Post #93
Agree with that Belch 100%.
I'm not a "hater" I don't hate anyone, it's not healthy!
I don't like Hamidi as a person for reasons already mentioned. I don't like him as a presenter on TV just as I don't like Richard Madeley on GMTV, I think they are both incredibly annoying and crap.
With regards to his company @doing_a_brew of course I am going to be interested in the products he is producing, they are aimed at the Carp fishing hobby I love, if he did bring out something new and innovative I would definitely consider purchasing an OMC product but at the moment there is nothing that remotely interests me from his very small range of re-hashed stuff!
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In reply to Post #86
Agree with the sentiment of this but I think even the die hard AH 'haters' were secretly hoping for the second coming in terms of innovation from someone who's quite clearly one of carp fishing's few actual winners . . .
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In reply to Post #91
And slip on a 30yard cast
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In reply to Post #90
they're designed to be softer 
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In reply to Post #87
The new clear ones
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In reply to Post #88
Alas I had to retire mine through excessive wear and tear.
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Easiest way is to paddle out in the dead of night on your inflateble Linda lovelace and place the rigs bang on the spot.
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In reply to Post #82
was it the clear one? the coloured ones for me dont move at all and this is on hefty casts currently with 18mm wafters
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In reply to Post #78
Exactly. I just don’t get the emotional responses and hatred towards AH on here, it’s sad to the point of hilarity that so many people are triggered by it.
Who cares if someone starts a company selling items you’re not interested in? Wouldn’t the sensible thing just be to not waste your energy worrying about it and not even give it a second thought? I can’t think of a single reason why you’d be bothered other than jealousy. 
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In reply to Post #84
I was just going to type the same thing
If it solves the problem (and it can be a problem 120+) of using 2 beads or glue surely a new bead would be a good thing?!
Or just s*** on the idea before it’s even released because you would never cast further than 100 yards and don’t need it 
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In reply to Post #83
Yup, could use two beads or dab with glue. Or.... use a longer bead that eliminates the need for either.
Just hope it works.
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In reply to Post #81
Or just use two small beads together....instead of one large one
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In reply to Post #81
I have never had one move until last weekend,a Thinking Anglers one had moved on a 40 yard cast 
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In reply to Post #78
Could always dab a tiny amount of super glue on the bead if you're particularly worried about it moving, not that I've ever had any issues with a hook bead moving
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In reply to Post #79
Not seen it mate.
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In reply to Post #78
Have you seen the version Jerry hammond uses? It hasn’t got a hook bead, it’s in one of his recent blog updates I think for trakker or on his Facebook page. I have been meaning to try it!
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In reply to Post #75
Typical carp forum response
I couldn't give a **** what the company is called or if its run by some guy who annoys me onscreen. If that bloody hook bead stays true at 150 with foam it's a touch. I see no other **** "innovated" a slightly longer hook bead in the several years they've been available. The simple ideas are the best imo.
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In reply to Post #76
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In reply to Post #23
carp couture selling moody copies? It's not like the fella did time for selling moody copies of designer clothes neither. Can't be true, surely...
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To be honest it's a crap name with mediocre products, it's the fact that he has his name to them means he'll see a few. Hes trying to make out the products are innovative, when in reality its either a plastic box, some red kickers, or a bloody hook bead.
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In reply to Post #73
I don't see any poor items thus far tbh.
Overpriced fashion victim clothing yes, but same for all tackle firms.
That box thing is not my bag but it'll serve a purpose for some.
If that new distance hook bead works it'll be fooking great.
The wire bags are class.
The ready tied stuff again isn't my bag but someone will use them 100%.
Other than the standard overpriced clothing it all serves a purpose and with covid slowing launch down there will be plenty more to come I'd expect.
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In reply to Post #70
The big establish companies are struggling for new ideas hence the poor items omc have launched can’t see it being a good idea people compare Nash fox Korda ect they started from nothing it was a different time
carp fishing was young it was new they had all the ideas in front of them over the years a lot of things have already been done the only way I can see it working if they come up with something special that only they sell but selling rig safes hats and hoodies I can’t see it paying off
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What's it they say, some of the kindest people you'll meet will be some of the poorest and the most selfish and arrogant will likely be the richest.
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In reply to Post #70
I have to agree
I could go off on one about AH as I do find him incredibly crass, but I think the point has already been made
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In reply to Post #69
This 100%.....he came across as arrogant, big headed and ignorant of those that were, (in effect) paying his wages.....
Yes he will have is OMC Fanboys of course but I look forward to the day they bring out something truly innovative....think it might be a long wait...
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In reply to Post #63
I used to wince reading his replies on Twitter, etc. I know he gets some stick but his replies even to genuine questions always came across badly, IMO. For a man whose career is marketing, I felt he could do with some PR training!!
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In reply to Post #67
I guess exactly the same Ian!
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In reply to Post #66
Around 20% higher than it was at a guess. The fanboys will be lapping it up again when he releases his next YouTube product video. The comments for the rig box thing were comical
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In reply to Post #65
It will be interesting to see the price of the OMC version of the Rat Bag wont it Matt!
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In reply to Post #64
Not much "innovation" left in the Carp fishing industry, rinse, copy & repeat....plus buy up smaller outfits, (rig safe thing and Rat Bag company) then add a bit of carp tax and release it under your own banner.
Nothing at all to convince me that OMC will be any more successful than TFG.....lead by a "TV Star" bringing out nothing new whatsoever....
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In reply to Post #1
I personally think the new boss is being very prudent with how much cash he's actually willing to risk / invest in products . . .drip feed the market - get a response - ditch it or make more. Low risk strategy. The only current real product 'lines' are the paint splat apparel . . .was expecting more innovation
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In reply to Post #60
To be honest I once asked him a genuine question on Twitter years ago and he responded with an unnecessary and sarcastic answer.... never liked him since then!
As for doing a Nash podcast of course he is entitled to do it but t use an analogy I bet he would kiss the badge of each club he played for!
Good luck to him but I won't be lining his pockets.....but I doubt he would lose any sleep over that anyway... 
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In reply to Post #59
To be fair I remember when the tv stuff started Ali was always using fox and shimano way before daiwa etc. which was probably contractual
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In reply to Post #55
Quote InTheMargin… The hate is fueled by jealousy, simple as that! Amazes me how people feel it necessary to knock others who are trying to make something of themselves, i guess it probably makes them feel better to do so.
Quote Doing_A_Brew…. Now if he was turning out pop-ups in his shed and charging £15 a pot, he’d be pukka innit.
Quote InTheMargin… Haha spot on.
The irony is truly incredible 🤦🏼♂️
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In reply to Post #59
So he can’t do a podcast with Nash because he used to work for Korda?! I wouldn’t look through the list of past guests then, you will get very cross.
I don’t suppose you listened to it? He mentions being trolled for using fox gear since leaving Korda. Apparently he was mates with the guys who now do product development at Fox when he fished Redesmere.
I couldn’t give a monkeys what kit anyone uses, he just seems like an ok guy trying to make his way on his own.
What’s caused such strong emotions towards him from you?
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In reply to Post #51
The fact that Hamidi has done a Nash podcast and is happily punting Fox bivvies and alarms shows just how much he has sold out and just how fickle he is.....can't stand the bloke and would not lower myself to buy any of his overpriced re-badged gear.
And Ted Baker quality my arse, it is still mass-produced chinese crap.
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In reply to Post #57
haha spot on.
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In reply to Post #55
Because Ali is taking it mainstream and that’s not ‘cool’ on here.
Now if he was turning out pop-ups in his shed and charging £15 a pot, he’d be pukka innit.
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In reply to Post #55
Expensive hats off you mean? :-)
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In reply to Post #14
The hate is fueled by jealousy, simple as that! Some saying he should have stayed at korda etc! If he had that attitude, not willing to take risks, he wouldn't be as successful as he is.
Amazes me how people feel it necessary to knock others who are trying to make something of themselves, i guess it probably makes them feel better to do so. Credit to him I say, a gutsy decision, but he obviously backs himself to do it. Hats off to the guy.
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In reply to Post #53
While ever there are idiots in fishing people will milk them, it’s that simple 
I don’t think the guy behind Ted Baker will give a flying ****. My mate used to buy from him when he started out and used to go round shops in his van, respect to the fella, made a mint but he used to sell quality stuff that nobody else was wearing at the time. Another marketing ploy to catch idiots 
Choices
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In reply to Post #52
in my eyes the ted baker link adds no credibility (possibly the opposite), but does have years and years of contacts and relationships that will reduce the cost, and increase the speed Ali can get garments on the market. Probably worth his weight in truffles just for that reason
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In reply to Post #50
I agree mate, just not sure what credibility the investor brings to the outdoor clothing market...Ali brings alot to the table so no doubt it will do well with his marketing and following....im no Ali or korda basher...just go with the flow and buy what I feel suits me amd my fishing.
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In reply to Post #50
It should also mean that the clothing is manufactured exclusively to a set specification rather than a Fruit of the Loom hoody with a print on.
Time will tell I guess.
I agree Ali can be a bit of a pain on TV, but he always comes across well when being interviewed. The recent Nash podcast is a good example.
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In reply to Post #49
In theory you would hope the quality control is in place for the clothing range and the materials used ect are more inline with the outdoor clothing companies. Let's face it people pay stupid money for so called fashion items that are all made in said sweat shops
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In reply to Post #48
I dont understand this theory, when were ted Baker leaders in the outdoor clothing market...maybe I'm wrong but didn't they do shirts,t-shirts handbags dresses and shoes?
maybe he has contacts to foreign sweatshops and cheap labour to maximise profits, maybe the the clothing is good...just don't understand the ted Baker connection....no dig at you personally mate, I've heard the ted Baker thing banded round lots
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In reply to Post #46
It's all been designed with the guy that set up Ted Baker so should be better than most of the other fishing clothing
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In reply to Post #46
People will pay £60 for a hoody and £30 for T-shirt if the quality is there. I don’t see those prices as that crazy.
This is an age where people queue up to spend £1000 on a glorified umbrella and £600 on a set of alarms.
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In reply to Post #45
I just took a look at their website just out of curiosity (would have no intention of spending my money on their products)
For a company thats just starting off they have pretty much out priced themselves on most clothing products than the other big named firms… £56.99 for a hoody, £26.99 for a t-shirt 🤷♂️
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I just can't bring myself to buy anything that lines Hamidi's pocket...
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In reply to Post #43
Or likely already available with a different label
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In reply to Post #42
Terminal tackle coming very soon
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In reply to Post #41
No idea what packaging they are using mate. They dont really have anything to package yet
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In reply to Post #40
I think he helped with the media side of it,getting fishing onto Sky then mainstream TV.I honestly think omc will be successful and become a big player in the market,the packaging they are using is a massive step in the right direction
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In reply to Post #39
Without doubt covid has played a huge part in it all. But even so it's been quite a **** show from Ali etc.with this. I just expected better from the man who many claim is the reason for Korda getting to where it is now.
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In reply to Post #38
I think covid has slowed the whole job down mate. I agree the company launch has been all over the place but knowing what most anglers are like it's probably done OMC a favour with the mass market waiting with bated breath for the next wonder product
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In reply to Post #35
Of course mate. I'd have thought they would have been able to bring out something of their own by now though. Or they should probably have done a bit more of that before launching the company like they did,with just a plastic rig box monstrosity and some overpriced hats to offer
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In reply to Post #36
Totally agree mate, I went from getting through several bags a year (was costing a small fortune lol) to getting 2 of these and they're both still going strong. They were a revelation for me.
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In reply to Post #35
In regards to this product I think that is is a quality product. I've had the Carp Couture version (I did not realise that they ripped it off until I read this thread) having gone through so many rubber or mesh versions over the years and it has been brilliant. Had it for at least 5 years now and still going strong, which for c.£20 is money well spent in. I hope the new badge doesn't add a wedge onto the asking price (though I expect it will)
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In reply to Post #33
I agree Ian, but we need to bear in mind their own products will take time to get through the whole design/qualification process to get to market. With rebadging that work is already done so you'll see it all far sooner.
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In reply to Post #29
That doesn't make any sense mate. They've just sold the company and handed the product to someone else. They don't have a website to visit, they have no stock, and can no longer make them. What exactly are they advertising?
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In reply to Post #32
Is it though? Not really. I reckon the fact Ali left the biggest firm in the game ,coupled with his number of fanboys, has done far more to get people talking than rebadging someone else's products as their own....
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In reply to Post #30
Yet the irony of your post is that ‘getting people talking’ is exactly what’s happening.
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In reply to Post #30
I have no idea, the clothing range is way overly priced and the rig rod safe is stupid.
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Surely if omc wanted to "get people talking" they'd actually bring out something of their own rather than just rebranding other companies kit like they are at the moment ?
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In reply to Post #28
Too get people talking like we are now on the forum, more people will visit there website and take a look at theis new product that has sold out, its simple advertising.
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In reply to Post #27
How does lying about having no stock left benefit them?
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In reply to Post #24
Or they could be full of sh*t
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In reply to Post #23
I mean ripping it off is a bit much, there is currently the same set of hooks from VMC doing the rounds for about six big tackle firms haha. But I get your meaning credit should go where due. They did innovate it, a friend had one and they still got in though, only way to protect from rats is to mask the smell / don’t spill etc.
Years of training in a bait unit with as it stands, no rat history lol
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In reply to Post #24
Or people are hoping theres enough knobheads out there that will pay a premium for the originals
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Since Rat Bag made the announcement this morning they've completely sold out of all stock after "overwhelming sales". I guess that shows us the marketing power of Ali and the mindset of your average angler. Absolutely ridiculous!
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In reply to Post #22
Yes. Rat bag did it first then carp couture ripped it off. My original rat bags are still going strong 8 years on. Brilliant product imo.
Edit: 9 years now!
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In reply to Post #21
Do you mean the metal mesh air dry bags?
Someone brought those out before, the Achilles heal was that rats got in 😂
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I see they've bought out Rat Bag. Obvs not their design but a quality product. Good business move imo.
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In reply to Post #19
This
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In reply to Post #13
These were my thoughts exactly. I’ve tried loads, Bank, ESP, Korda, Avid…and although all fine at shorter range (<120) they all slip with a heavy lead on a big chuck. I use the thinking angers now and they are better, but a stop that you were confident would never budge would be something I would buy.
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In reply to Post #16
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In reply to Post #15
I've found the harder the hook stop the less it moves. especially when using bigger stops. If these stops are pretty hard and as above, longer then there is a good chance they'll be pretty solid on a big cast
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In reply to Post #15
They're longer than others
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In reply to Post #13
Not seen any pictures of it,what is so different about it.I use the esp ones and they don't budge at all
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In reply to Post #13
Totally agree Yonny....
Not sure why the hate on this post. All companies sell products we think are pointless (Nash bivvy heater, Korda floss caps etc), but it looks like OMC are actually going to be releasing some really good products. Ali isn't stupid so left to create a brand of his own, instead of continuing to grow someone elses!!
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In reply to Post #1
If that hook bead holds position @ 150 with foam on then it's a good product imo. Time will tell.
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In reply to Post #10
Time will tell... Setting up a new buisness is always a risk. Hamidi is no mug. He got Korda to the stage where there are now through his Clever Marketing. He got a fella backing him who started multiple million pound clothing brand. Its early days but they've got all the ingredients for success right there.. good luck to them..
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Ridgemonkey started with minimal products, possibly just one?
They built the brand first to gauge how well it was received, no point investing heavily if people aren’t taking to the brand.
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In reply to Post #9
He should of stayed with Korda a house hold name in carp fishing looks like there struggling for new ideas the grass is always greener
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In reply to Post #8
"Hello Dan, it's Ali here! Any chance of my old job back mate?"
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Can’t help but think they rushed through the opening of OMC. Trying to sell some hats and a rig ready someone else designed really is scraping the barrel. Need to be a lot more creative to survive in this industry
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In reply to Post #5
Who came up with the names
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In reply to Post #5
Just had a look at their website and noticed they offer nothing unique. Just the same old crap with a new badge.
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In reply to Post #1
The new jackets are cheap at least
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In reply to Post #2
If it's made to be identical looking and smelling to a grain of hemp, yet able to exactly offset the weigh of whichever hook you are using , then yes. Otherwise it's a no, no , no and then , no.
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In reply to Post #1
not just any hook bead, a long range hook bead!!!!!! (can be used at short range too)
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In reply to Post #1
Is this the all singing dancing hook bead that nobody has ever used before and it will catch you more bigger fish
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One you've been waiting for, very exciting, drum roll please...
A new hook bead!
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