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   Ukraine and Russia Part 2
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   Old Thread  #101 17 May 2022 at 8.04pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So much what I said about Covid came true……..yourself and others was wrong on many occasions!

The west paints a picture that the Ukraine is an innocent victim which has done nothing to provoke Russia…….that’s simply not true!

I bet when the media ask us to clap for Ukraine on a Thursday night your the first out there banging pots and pans…….
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   Old Thread  #100 17 May 2022 at 7.39pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lol, you're getting your information from exactly the same sources as you got your covid information from, very easy to spot, no doubt you'll give it wait until it all unravels sort of comment soon, laptops secret labs, blah blah blah
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   Old Thread  #99 17 May 2022 at 7.28pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have they had an aggressive email from spomb yet over patent infringement
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   Old Thread  #98 17 May 2022 at 6.15pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who makes that spomb,looks well made
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   Old Thread  #97 17 May 2022 at 5.49pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The real world………you mean America, EU, UK and Australia……..I’m sure none of them have a vested interest in the Ukraine…….
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   Old Thread  #96 17 May 2022 at 4.55pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Watch putin come back with armed bait boats...
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   Old Thread  #95 17 May 2022 at 4.46pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trying

You consistently post pro Putin invasion justification. Whilst the real world has read it, seen it, looked into it and filed it under no justification.
Keep trying
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   Old Thread  #94 17 May 2022 at 3.48pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Clever buggers, those Ukrainians:

LINK.
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   Old Thread  #93 17 May 2022 at 3.47pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wrong, I’m trying to understand exactly what’s going on out there from lots of different news sources. Qanon or parlour are not something I read at all……

I’m not surprised by your response though as you walked blindly into CV vaccination believing it was the only way to save your life……
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   Old Thread  #92 17 May 2022 at 10.57am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"I just dont believe everything I'm told blindly" except that's exactly what you are doing, you're reading it on Parlour, or QAnon or some other trump fan boy page, then regurgitating the same tripe on here, then claiming "you dont believe everything I'm told blindly" sounds extremely hypocritical to me
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   Old Thread  #91 17 May 2022 at 9.32am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don’t believe the Russians don’t have far far superior air forces that could attack Kyiv but I’m sure he could fire Cruise missiles into Kyiv if that’s the case?

Liberating the east seems like the simple objective in this special op……
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   Old Thread  #90 17 May 2022 at 4.16am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Really simple answer to why he didn't take Kyiv is that he didn't have air superiority, which is even acknowledged by the Russians in that they failed to take take the critical air fields around Kyiv and hold them in the first few days of war.

Why do you think that now any strikes into central or western Ukraine are coming from ground or land based missiles?
They failed to take out air defences fast enough, and i'm guessing massively under estimated the initial successes the Ukrainians would have. Now the air defences have been massively reinforced by the west.

Its the fundamental difference between how they succeed in Syria compared to Ukraine. And why now they are taking such heavy losses.

Given that the entire "Special Operation" was planned on fast move to take Kyiv, to do this the best time was winter as the ground would be frozen, its how the west were able to predict he would make the move in a certain time frame before the ground thawed and slowed down the progress.. Its since played out like this,

I do agree to a extent that the mainstream media peddle propaganda, but you cant be selective in the narratives.... the absolute last thing Putin wanted was to extend his boarders with Nato and it looking exactly like this will happen.


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   Old Thread  #89 16 May 2022 at 11.29pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wayne,I have to say the most dangerous reality not only in this small over populated country ,but other places and countries,is the media,they control the minds of seemingly the vast majority of people every where,blindly and without question they follow,like sheep in a field..

Even people I had down as intelligent, have been brainwashed and mass media persuasion coercion ,not only injected into their brains,but also their bodies as well..

Nobody should trust anyone ruling them ,nor the medical establishment..,..one thing ,they,the perceived elites do not care one iota whether people live or die,its all about perceived caring ,and pharmaceutical monetary gain,over a 'cold'..

As for Russia and Ukraine,time will tell all...
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   Old Thread  #88 16 May 2022 at 8.07pm  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As you know Wayne I'm no fan of any war and I'm also no fool when it comes to the hypocrisy of the UK government in years of financially profitable conflicts.

As for believing what you're told though... I'm assuming you haven't seen all of what you're saying first hand so....

There are always different sides to war and conflict. And sometimes one side is more wrong than the other
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   Old Thread  #87 16 May 2022 at 5.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wonder who the Coup will be…….no doubt a pro American ruler to take his place….

Any ideas why putin hasn’t taken / flattened the capital Kyiv? You would never know war was happening looking at Kyiv…..
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