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   Re-casting the same hookbait you caught on.
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   Old Thread  #22 15 Sept 2021 at 7.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers - likewise if you’re in the ‘Lowlands’.
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   Old Thread  #21 14 Sept 2021 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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if you're ever over then drop me a message - always happy to meet up for a trip out with people visiting.
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   Old Thread  #20 13 Sept 2021 at 9.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would suggest bigger seperation between the hook and the hookbait with a bigger bait.
Perhaps the mechanics stop them hooking themselves on chods a bit more..
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   Old Thread  #19 13 Sept 2021 at 9.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’m based in Holland & where there’s water...there’s bream. Had them on four tigers, feeding only tigers🙈
Chods slow ‘em down tho, prob too blatant / high?
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   Old Thread  #18 13 Sept 2021 at 9.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never thought the fishing was easy, just when you’re on the fish it seems that they move in large shoals & the trick is to hold them. I know Toronto well, fished the Humber around Old Mill but never the St. Lawrence - looks epic tho. Have family there & around Ottawa so maybe a trip’s in order. Thx the replies, all helps the confidence 👍.
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   Old Thread  #17 13 Sept 2021 at 6.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you're assuming that all carp fishing here is like the stories you hear / see from the St Lawrence. That's not the case at all and although there are carp stocked in most waterways across southern Ontario, there aren't anywhere near as many as people expect. Blanks are common - I was on a 5 trip blank until this last weekend.

I don't think there is anything about scents from other fish and as mentioned - have caught multiple fish on the same hookbait on plenty of occasions. you have to remember that you have literally just caught a fish as the hookbait was in the water before you netted it which means that the fish will definitely find it attractive.

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   Old Thread  #16 12 Sept 2021 at 8.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The catching bream all night at Ardleigh did happen. From 10pm until 1am I was catching bream, then caught a carp, back to bream, then at 5am another carp.

Exactly the same method was producing both species, a ball of Vitalin groundbait moulded around the lead with a double 15mm boilie hookbait.
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   Old Thread  #15 12 Sept 2021 at 1.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I only change the hook bait if there's a reason to do so, e.g. it's lost some buoyancy, been in the water for more than a day or a reggie has taken a nibble at it - doesn't make any difference to re-cast one you have just caught on, been doing that for years, same goes for the chaps I fish with. Tigers I never change the hook bait, LOL.
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   Old Thread  #14 11 Sept 2021 at 9.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I did say " and no carp" sometimes they move in and push the bream out. But sometimes a big shoal of bream will just eat everything you throw at them. I don't mind a few but not every chuck all night. I'd be prepared to be exhausted for a busy night of decent carp, but would be annoyed at catching 5lb bream all night on 3lb.tc carp rods.. Might be a different scenario on match gear though.
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   Old Thread  #13 11 Sept 2021 at 8.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or a carp could move in and you catch it in the middle of the bream action. On Ardleigh Reservoir, Go Fishing with John Wilson he had a scaly in the middle of the bream he was catching.
Strangely enough, the exact same swim I caught a couple of carp in the middle of a night of non stop bream.
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   Old Thread  #12 11 Sept 2021 at 6.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you're catching that many Bream and no carp then I would think it would be better to change tactics, or even move swim.
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   Old Thread  #11 11 Sept 2021 at 3.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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if its bream, and the bait has not been whittled down, out it goes again especially as some nights/trips i can get 6/7 flipping bream

Yep, that's me at the moment.
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   Old Thread  #10 10 Sept 2021 at 11.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That’s an extremely good point. 👍
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   Old Thread  #9 10 Sept 2021 at 11.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep same, I had three fish on an overnighter in July on the same bait ( you could call me lazy )
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   Old Thread  #8 10 Sept 2021 at 5.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I try to use the same hookbait after catching fish on it. Obviously if it is falling apart then I put on a fresh one, for that reason I often mesh baits so I can reuse it.

Tim Paisley explained it roughly as "a fresh hookbait smells of the angler, and may not be instantly acceptable. An 'old' hookbait smells of the water and fish, for that reason I use the same bait for as long as possible, or I may be starting from scratch again".

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