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   Old Thread  #9 25 Sept 2021 at 0.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Starter kits are expensive. I got 3 really useful bins (the olive green ones) from B and Q which are 65 litres each. Think I paid £15 per tub. You'll need the lids too. On two of the lids, you need to cut out the majority of the centre of the lid leaving the outer rim that will still clip down on the container it's on. Two of the container bases You'll need to drill 4mm holes throughout the base (on the really useful containers I drilled the centre of each printed hexagon on the underside of the container. On the very bottom container You'll need a drainage tap (about £5 from B&Q, the plastic waterbutt type) to drain off the liquid (known as worm wee or worm tea) which is an excellent fertiliser for your plants and vegetables (if using this as a fertiliser mix one part worm tea to 9 parts water before watering plants).

Once you have done all this, stack them up so you have the bottom container with no holes in the base followed by the two containers with holes in stacked above and the uncut lid on the very top (this prevents water getting in). The two lids you have cut out will be attached to the bottom containers. Get a couple of coir bricks from wilko's and follow the instructions on the package about soaking them so they become damp and swell in volume. Lay the watered coir at the bottom of the middle container. Then lay a large sack of compost (get a good quality bag of compost from any garden centre) on top of the coir. Get a bag of worms (I purchased Dendrabena's (European nightcrawlers) and Tiger worms because they eat their own bodyweight in a day and breed much quicker than lob or garden worms. Lob or garden worms condition soil, whereas the others are better for getting rid of your vegetable waste. I bought 500g of each but 250g of each will still work.

Put the worms in the compost you've laid in the middle bin and cover with about an inch if possible of vegetable and fruit waste. DO NOT put in orange peel, lemons, garlic or onions of any kind as it's not good for the worms and will long term kill them. No citrus or acidic waste must be given to the worms.

Did this with the kids as we float fish a lake where worms are an outstanding bait for carp between 5lb and 15lb and we catch regular. One day my eldest and I had 30 fish out between 5 and 12lb all float fished worms.

In 3 months your worms will have doubled in population. Had the wormery for about 6 months now and the middle bin is almost full of worms, compost and waste. I've gone from 1kg of worms to probably over 5kg of worms and they get really big (around the size of a medium sized lobworm) and they have a much sweeter smell than your regular garden/lob worm. This is 5kg of worms despite numerous days of fishing with just worms so you can see they breed really well. Bring back any you don't use and put them back with the others.

For the first few months cover with either hessian sacks or damp cardboard to protect them and make it more homely for them. In winter you may need to insulate the wormery with a couple of sheets of old carpet. I'll be putting mine in the shed probably as they won't fare well in really cold weather.

Make sure you give them all of your scrap fruit and veg. If you get a pumpkin for the kids at Halloween, give them the whole thing after. They will eat the lot. Once you've filled the middle bin, you can start filling the top bin. I haven't got to this stage yet but I'm almost there. I may lay either a small amount of the coir, say one brick from wilko before laying the fruit and veg in. The worms should then start climbing up to the top bin to eat your new vegetable waste. When you have virtually no worms left in the middle bin, you should have a container that is pure high nutrient compost (check through the compost for worm castings/eggs and you may want to put these in the top container to form more worms. The middle container Once emptied of compost will now become the top container and swap the lids over.

If you're going to chop the worms as loose feed to your hook bait (say spodding or spombing out) put some of the compost in with the chopped worms as it will add to the attraction for the fish you're after. You can go smaller with the containers if you like (we get through a lot of waste).

Initially you may have a few escape. Just check it daily and put the stragglers back in. When they are happy and getting plenty of food they will stay inside.

Hope this helps. It may sound complicated or a lot of effort but it really isn't and you'll have a permanent supply of free worms every year.
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   Old Thread  #8 9 Sept 2021 at 11.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not sure rooting through horse sh*t is any better than rotting veg tbh mate
But a great tip for those keen enough. Nice one
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   Old Thread  #7 9 Sept 2021 at 11.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The way to harvest your worms in a wormery is to bury a plastic basket full of fresh neat horse manure near the top of your wormery ,leave it for a few days and when you dig it up it will be packed with worms, loads of worms concentrated in your basket.
hope that helps .
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   Old Thread  #6 8 Sept 2021 at 3.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A wormery is just a composter mate.
I got one for bait reasons. Simple to do, feed it per post # 4.
If you're looking for a little bait tub here and there i.e. hookbaits it does the job. If you're looking for kilos of the things (as I was) it's a waste of time. You'll have loads but harvesting them is disgusting at best and impossible at worst. It's easy to take a few off the top, especially around the rim of the composter, but digging through rotting vegetation to fill a bucket is not the one.
If you find a better method, let me know mate
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   Old Thread  #5 8 Sept 2021 at 1.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I did it way back in the 70s as a lad, nothing special just a compost heap with all spare veg and veg cutting plus some grass cuttings, always brought back any worms I didn't use and put them back in, but yes quality brandlings on tap 👍, vaguely remember it took a little while to get going maybe 4 to 6 months.
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   Old Thread  #4 8 Sept 2021 at 1.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I did it way back in the 70s as a lad, nothing special just a compost heap with all spare veg and veg cutting plus some grass cuttings, always brought back any worms I didn't use and put them back in, but yes quality brandlings on tap 👍
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   Old Thread  #3 8 Sept 2021 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Could try something simple like this initially - this guy does some great chub, barbel e.t.c vlogs,

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   Old Thread  #2 8 Sept 2021 at 0.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ive got a plastic compost bin in the garden. Just add grass cuttings and vegetable peelings/tea bags

Doesnít take long to build up and itís now full of redworms and brandlings
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   Old Thread  #1 7 Sept 2021 at 1.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Has anyone started and successfully created a wormery for bait.

Do you have any suggestions for starter kits please?
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