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   Old Thread  #234 28 Apr 2022 at 12.00pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thought they would've got new coach in first then go to Captain. I hope he does well but for me they are moving sidewards and not forward.
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   Old Thread  #233 28 Apr 2022 at 5.32am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So root eventually threw in the towel and stokes is taking over.

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   Old Thread  #232 8 Mar 2022 at 4.38pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Won the toss and batted on a ground where the last five have won the toss and bowled.
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   Old Thread  #231 8 Mar 2022 at 4.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's a brave new world
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   Old Thread  #230 4 Mar 2022 at 7.02pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have a listen to foakes next week, he don't shut up

Such a sad day for cricket, Warne was being tipped for the England job at the weekend
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   Old Thread  #229 4 Mar 2022 at 6.47pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Something that sticks in my mind. Gilchrist and Warne. Gilchrist very vocal, blew us away from a mental perspective, “bowling Shane”, “oh, good bowling Shane” every bloody ball lol

Bowling Shane

When we tried it, just didn’t have the same edge
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   Old Thread  #228 4 Mar 2022 at 5.35pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Gutted. He sent a personalised messaged for my nephews wedding. What a player. So sad, far too early
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   Old Thread  #227 4 Mar 2022 at 5.14pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I'll bet Shane Warne and Rod Marsh shared a few tinnies! Two of the greatest cricketers that ever lived...No, Warne was THE best and Marsh wasn't far behind him. What tragic news for World and Aussie cricket.

RIP you legends.
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   Old Thread  #226 4 Mar 2022 at 5.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a bowler, one of the greats

RIP Shane Warne
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   Old Thread  #225 4 Mar 2022 at 4.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not just Aussie cricket they have both worked for the ECB.
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   Old Thread  #224 4 Mar 2022 at 3.24pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sad day for Aussie Cricket
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   Old Thread  #222 4 Mar 2022 at 2.38pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just heard about Shane Warne dying.....only 52....what a shock.
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   Old Thread  #221 4 Mar 2022 at 2.38pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Blimey Shane Warne gone as well
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   Old Thread  #220 4 Mar 2022 at 10.05am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Rest in peace Rod Marsh a great keeper and dogged batsman cricket has lost another legend.
I was lucky enough to see him play at The Oval in the mid 70's keeping to the likes of Lillee and Thomson.
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   Old Thread  #219 8 Feb 2022 at 6.40pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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At least Foakes is in.
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   Old Thread  #218 8 Feb 2022 at 6.35pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Interim test selection Committee
"we need a new approach, let's select a top 3 to take us forward"
"what about that bairstow kid at 3, we haven't tried that before"
"inspired choice"

I laughed when I saw the squad, but it was a laugh of despair.
That'll be the end of hammeed now I expect, shocking man management
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   Old Thread  #217 16 Jan 2022 at 6.32pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's a man searching for form and trying to force it.
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   Old Thread  #216 16 Jan 2022 at 4.52pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Talking of coaching who is coaching Pope he was playing at balls that would'nt hit a 6th stump.
Does no one take a leg stump guard these days no wonder they don't know when to leave.
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   Old Thread  #215 16 Jan 2022 at 3.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We'll soon find out, if they rock up in the WI with root as skipper and go straight into the 1st test without any meaningful warm up games it's business as usual.

I do wonder how much coaching root has as captain, he just keeps making the same mistakes managing bowlers, releasing pressure when we're on top etc
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   Old Thread  #214 16 Jan 2022 at 1.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He's talking like he wants to continue, i hope he doesn't. Root isnt a good captain, he needs to concentrate on batting and help teach the new players.

52 days until the West Indies test, I hope lessons are learned, players and coaches sacked. Somehow i have a horrible feeling nothing will change and only abject humiliation in the West Indies will force a change.

hope im wrong.
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   Old Thread  #213 16 Jan 2022 at 12.29pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I can only hope they learn some lessons from this tour.

I've thought for a long time this would be roots last series as captain but I'm not so sure now.
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   Old Thread  #212 16 Jan 2022 at 11.55am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Another false dawn. 68-0 to 124 all out in 23 overs...I should know better by now.

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   Old Thread  #211 16 Jan 2022 at 11.48am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #210 16 Jan 2022 at 10.49am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
7 Wickets for 39 runs

I cant even get angry or laugh anymore, I just expect it. Red ball cricket is dead in England unless this results in a MASSIVE shakeup at the ECB. It not about who will or wont get sacked anymore, its about the fundamental core of cricket and where it is going in England. I've never seen this level of cricket before from England.

Least its over now, least the humiliation has come to an end.
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   Old Thread  #209 16 Jan 2022 at 8.41am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You get the blame for the wicket then
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   Old Thread  #208 16 Jan 2022 at 8.35am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just turned the radio on...Hang on a minute! What's going on???
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   Old Thread  #207 15 Jan 2022 at 12.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm going to predict that we'll win both series by one clear Test match. (God loves an optimist!)

I was joking at the time, but it has turned out to be a sour joke.

There's got to be a rethink on what it is we want from our elite (test) players. Offer them the sort of money that can get in India would be a start, but that's never going to happen. We thought Kerry Packer was bad, but the IPL is a hundred time more damaging.

Kevin Pietersen's plan makes a kind of sense.
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   Old Thread  #206 15 Jan 2022 at 10.14am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We are the ultimate champions at collapsing in test cricket
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   Old Thread  #205 15 Jan 2022 at 9.57am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Normal service resumed.
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   Old Thread  #204 12 Jan 2022 at 6.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Without change this shambles will continue.
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   Old Thread  #203 12 Jan 2022 at 5.37pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Might have shot himself in the foot with his recent comments but I agree, not sure the ecb will want to risk harming the cash cow short format tournaments to improve the 1st class game tho, and he'll probably insist on some changes

I still like kps 1st class franchise idea even though it won't happen

I see farbrace is in the frame for the aussie job
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   Old Thread  #202 12 Jan 2022 at 4.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree by far the best keeper we got.
If Kirsten gets the nod he will only do the test side so they will have to change to me he's the best man for the job.
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   Old Thread  #201 12 Jan 2022 at 2.26pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If billings gets runs in the last game we'll probably never see foakes as a regular england keeper, such a shame imo.

I wonder who the new coach will be, and whether they go for 2 coaches for the different formats.
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   Old Thread  #200 9 Jan 2022 at 11.30am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
At last they showed some fight in this test. Didn't think they would last the day but they managed it.
Crawley showed what he is capable of not forgetting YJB ton and a couple of sixty's for Stokes.
Surprised they didn't pitch the ball up to Broad but he done well lasting 35 balls.
Oh and Pope was better behind the stumps than Buttler has been all series.
Be a few changes for Hobart due to injuries.
At least it won't be a whitewash and they done it without the rain that was forecast.
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   Old Thread  #199 28 Dec 2021 at 4.56pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree with you the captaincy is too much to put on stokes, but who else is there that
A: has experience
B: is a guaranteed pick in our strongest team
C: has 4 years in front of them

There are only 2 players who meet those criteria and one of them is root.

If we drop the experience bit we get malan and Robinson, the press will roast them.
If we drop b we'll have burns buttler or bairstow
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   Old Thread  #198 28 Dec 2021 at 12.20pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree with Root not so sure about Stokes after having a break for his mental wellbeing would he want to take on the
captaincy on top of expectations of him with bat,ball and in the field it was too much for Botham in the 80's and these days there is social media to deal with as well.

I think the likes of Crawley, Pope and maybe even Hameed have decent techniques but need the mindset,discipline and application of Test match cricket instilled into them also Foakes should have the gloves.

Livingstone is a talented cricketer who for me should be given a chance. Forget his record at CC Trescothick didn't have a mega CC record when Fletcher picked him.

Lastly Congrats to Australia they have beaten us soundly in all three tests.
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   Old Thread  #197 28 Dec 2021 at 11.27am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Root got one thing right before this tour

This series is how his tenure as captain will be remembered.

I expect stokes to take over by the next series, and I'm dreading it tbh
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   Old Thread  #196 28 Dec 2021 at 10.01am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just when you don't think it can get any worse.........
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   Old Thread  #195 28 Dec 2021 at 0.55am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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****ing disgraceful, the worst display in a generation what a way to lose a Ashes.

Post 3 knew the score back in August
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   Old Thread  #194 27 Dec 2021 at 3.54pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unplayable bowling at times from the Aussies. Jimmy, as ever, did very well...shame about the rest of them!
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   Old Thread  #193 27 Dec 2021 at 3.16pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Fantastic fightback from the bowlers horrid final 12 overs of the day.
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   Old Thread  #192 26 Dec 2021 at 5.34pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This series should see the death of Root as captain and Silverwood as coach. However, unless it sees the head of Giles roll and most of the others at the top of the ECB, allowing a full red ball focussed reconstruction, England will be relegated to a minor red ball side internationally within 10 years. That will give the ECB the ability to scrap red ball cricket and focus on money money money.

In a nutshell Sadly the limited over games take priority over the test side and our current test players seem to think they are in a limited overs match every time they take a guard, and the idea of getting in and then building an innings is anathema to the batsmen.

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   Old Thread  #191 26 Dec 2021 at 12.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree but sadly society of today is all about money.
Championship cricket brings in a few hundred supporters whereas white ball especially the shorter formats brings in tens of thousands so its a no brainer that these get the best weather.
I grew up in the 60s/70's so i too think that the Test arena is the pinnacle of cricket even though at club level we were
playing 20 over cricket years before the professional game.
But once that started with the money generated players wages rose just like it did with the Premier league in football
but to sustain it they have to fill the grounds more often and that is why Champioship is stuck at both ends of the season.

How many former players are on the ECB board or are they all businessmen?

Other countries also have this problem but they're players adapt although they don't have two comps unlike the ECB.

Just watching SA v India opening patnership over a 100 good to watch.

I believe we have some decent players but need coaching with discipline and a decent Captain.

As for your 5-0 i'm surprised they haven't paid up already.
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   Old Thread  #190 26 Dec 2021 at 11.05am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well i called a 5-0 whitewash in OZ after 2019, been calling it ever since and now im sat here smug as **** laughing my head off at all the idiot England fans who thought this side would compete.

I sat through the nineties, so i know exactly what **** cricket looks like, but even Hussein wasn't as bad a captain as Root is. Root is totally clueless, he is meek, mild, wont change and adapt a plan according to situations, and when he does get passionate he calls out the bowlers and protects the batsMEN, (not person).

This batting lineup has been awful for years, even in 2019 it was bloody awful. All that happened in 2019 was Stokes heroics and an Australia team still rebuilding after the chaos of the past few years. Well now Australia have rebuilt, they're at home and we all know what to expect from Australia at home, well apart from Root who obviously never watched any footage of prior series.

After the 90s we rebuilt and did amazingly, will we do the same now? No, categorically no. The landscape in English cricket has changed totally and those that run the ECB are only interested in £ signs. The promotion of white ball cricket has come at the expense of red ball cricket and now with the ECB only chasing £ from kids buying shirts of their favourite hundred team, red ball cricket is dead.

The county championship has been shifted to the worst parts of the season for weather to make room for T20, Royal London and The bull****, (hundred). Due to underfunding there is such a gap between the County Championship and international level its impossible for County players to successfully transfer to international cricket.

This series should see the death of Root as captain and Silverwood as coach. However, unless it sees the head of Giles roll and most of the others at the top of the ECB, allowing a full red ball focussed reconstruction, England will be relegated to a minor red ball side internationally within 10 years. That will give the ECB the ability to scrap red ball cricket and focus on money money money.

Rant over. Back to fawning over my bullseye bet on 5-0 Australia
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   Old Thread  #189 26 Dec 2021 at 10.56am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #188 26 Dec 2021 at 6.41am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
This tours heading for a whitewash
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   Old Thread  #187 26 Dec 2021 at 6.41am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Should have stayed in bed. , effing useless
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   Old Thread  #186 25 Dec 2021 at 2.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
RIP Ray Illingworth
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   Old Thread  #185 21 Dec 2021 at 1.48pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I see Bumble's the next to leave Sky.
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   Old Thread  #184 21 Dec 2021 at 10.27am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And the coach/selector says he would pick the same teams for the first two teats again ffs.
And Root saying the bowlers bowled too short ffs y our the Captain tell them out on the pitch.
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   Old Thread  #183 21 Dec 2021 at 8.40am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They owe me 30 hours sleep!

Same problems as ever, bowlers taking 4 innings to find the right length, batsmen not scoring enough, too many dropped catches, poor captaincy releasing pressure in the field.
If burns stays in the team he needs to find a new position in the field,(I suspect Crawley will come in tho) and bairstow will probably come in for pope, maybe taking the gloves.
Stokes is a great player, but bowling on one leg and batting like a bloke who hasn't played for 6 months isn't having the effect we need from him.
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   Old Thread  #182 20 Dec 2021 at 11.31am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Buttler showed discipline for a change.
Stokes isn't fully fit and i can't see anything other than an Aussie win.
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   Old Thread  #181 20 Dec 2021 at 11.11am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
What a cruel way for Butler to get out after such a brilliantly defiant innings. 2-o down but remember Headingley 1981? We need Stokes to do a Botham, faint hope I know, but it's a funny old game, cricket.
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   Old Thread  #180 18 Dec 2021 at 12.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Why do i watch it.
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   Old Thread  #179 16 Dec 2021 at 5.56pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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89 Overs bowled 5% hitting stumps nuff said
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   Old Thread  #178 15 Dec 2021 at 2.51pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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On the plus side it'll be easier to follow if we do well, hard to avoid it if we get stuffed again tho

It's easier to drop leach for this game with the dew factor, if it was a day game dropping him would be an issue
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   Old Thread  #177 15 Dec 2021 at 12.01pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well 2nd Test tomorrow Anderson and Broad back in the frame, Woods rested Leach still in squad. For me until we can regularly score 350+ in our !st innings then we should not play Leach unless we are playing on a big turning wicket.
Feel for Stokes as well recovering from injury and illness and flung in the deep end.
Hazlewood is a big blow for the Aussies but Richardson is a decent enough replacement.
Australia played 8 D/N matches and won them all.

Cmon England lets dig deep and silence the critics (incuding me).
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   Old Thread  #176 11 Dec 2021 at 2.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
They flatter to deceive.
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   Old Thread  #175 11 Dec 2021 at 9.41am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ah well after that glimmer of hope back to being England again got what we deserved ..... nothing.
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   Old Thread  #174 10 Dec 2021 at 5.27pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep need them two to see out 1st session and the new ball.
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   Old Thread  #173 10 Dec 2021 at 4.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Better day, hopefully we're still batting when I get up tomorrow
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   Old Thread  #172 9 Dec 2021 at 10.10am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I want Morgan on that committee
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   Old Thread  #171 9 Dec 2021 at 9.03am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We don't put enough runs on the board to help the likes of Leach and we don't have a spinner that could tie one end up liike Swann did.
For me Anderson and Broad should have started looking at the wicket and conditions.resting players at the start of series is ridiculous if they can't play first two tests then don't take them simples.
And they need to go back to a selection commitee rather than just Silverwood.

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   Old Thread  #170 9 Dec 2021 at 6.24am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Oh look, stokes has a niggle and leach is going round the park

Head is looking dangerous, they need to get him out quickly!

This is exactly the situation I saw coming, 3 seamers getting bowled into the ground.
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   Old Thread  #169 8 Dec 2021 at 12.19pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well, that went well!
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   Old Thread  #168 8 Dec 2021 at 9.21am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Allan Border said on commentary i can't believe England have got 1100 test wickets sitting on the sidelines.
Play them for the first two tests then rest them.

When i saw that surface i thought if they bowl straight we're in trouble and they did and we are.
I bet Warner can't believe his luck that Broad's not playing.
Still with any luck the wicket will be sweating and retain some moisture for our bowlers.
Woakes and Robinson are the key before it flattens out.
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   Old Thread  #167 8 Dec 2021 at 6.10am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ffs
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   Old Thread  #166 7 Dec 2021 at 4.28pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree it's his natural game wherever he bats he should play like that.
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Hopefully woakes bats 7 and joss is told to go hard at the bowlers, he looks lost trying to play like a proper test batsman, I'd rather see him hole out after a 5 ball 20 than go into his shell and get out after a dentury
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   Old Thread  #164 7 Dec 2021 at 11.57am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah Pope needs runs now hope he can fulfil his promise and prove he has got it at this level.
Hope Woods can stay fit and Robinson keeps bowling the way he been. Woakes brings a bit more depth to the batting as well as being a decent bowler who makes way far too often.
Bring on midnight.
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No Jimmy for the 1st test, and probably leach carrying the drinks.
Pope in over bairstow, big series for him
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We do have a decent attack but their fitness levels have been a problem over the last couple of years which is a worry.
And the last time we won a series there take a look at the top 6 we had. Huge amount of experience.

Saw Lillee and Thomson bowl at The Oval in '75 they were quick.
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   Old Thread  #161 4 Dec 2021 at 3.52pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apart from being too similar I think we've got a decent attack.
Anderson, Robinson, wood and woakes would be a decent start, add a few overs from stokes and root, then either Overton or a spinner. I suspect Overton would actually get the nod over woakes, but I'd have him in the side, and batting 7 ahead of buttler.

The aussies have only got 2 batsmen worth a toss anyway, getting runs will be harder than getting wickets I think.

The willis/Botham eras were before my time, I only remember Freddies stint
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I think they're bowling attack is better for the conditions and ball and can't see where our runs are coming from to put them under pressure. 450+ and even then Root is conservative with his field.

As for Cummings i liked the look of him when he first played Test cricket then he had the stress fracture in his back
but his run up and action appears effortless very good bowler time will tell if Captaincy is for him. For me Keeper, Slips
and Mid On/Off are the best positions for a skipper and if he's bowling one end then going down to Third man for a breather that is not ideal.

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Yeh I'm just thinking he would have been an option to balance the side, where 3 of the seamers available are fitness worries, and one is nearly 50
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   Old Thread  #158 3 Dec 2021 at 9.13pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bob Willis and then Ian Botham were England Captains.

Maybe right about Stokes fitness to be another seamer trouble is we expect so much from him as he has set the mantle
so high.

Don't think Livingstone is in the squad.
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I'll be watching Cummins with interest, I don't remember many front line seamers captaining at test level.
I'd be worried about stokes as the 4th seamer tbh, even more so if broad or wood are in the side. If it's a toss up between leach or woakes I'm going with woakes all day long, particularly with root as skipper.
Although his red ball record is pretty ordinary I would probably have livingstone at 6 just for the spin option.

I'd be worried if they went with a seam attack of Anderson strokes broad wood
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   Old Thread  #156 3 Dec 2021 at 10.17am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not exactly had the best prep for an Ashes series just hope it doesn't take until the 3rd test to get the rust away.
With Stokes back i imagine Leach will be back in and his role could be crucial depending on the fields he has to bowl to.
Still the Aussies not had the best prep but at least they have been playing.
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   Old Thread  #155 2 Dec 2021 at 7.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trial by media, not on really.
I don't like the circumstances around it but I'm not upset he won't be on any coverage, the constant negative sound bites he spouts do my nut in. I don't know if it's just a Yorkshire thing or whether he consciously thought "geoffrey made a career out of being a negative ****, I'll use that as the blueprint"

Only a week to go
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   Old Thread  #154 1 Dec 2021 at 3.08pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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See BT sports have dropped him as well i thought you were innocent until proven guilty.
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   Old Thread  #153 19 Nov 2021 at 6.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Be interesting as Cummings is vc
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   Old Thread  #152 19 Nov 2021 at 1.04pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looks like sandpaper Steve will be skippering aus for the ashes!
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   Old Thread  #151 18 Nov 2021 at 9.15pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #150 18 Nov 2021 at 7.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Turns out he’s a bit of a racist himself guess he’ll be donating that £200,000 to charity!
It’ll be interesting to see all the media outlets backpedaling on this 😂

Not buying the I was only 19 ….Ollie Robinson 😉
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   Old Thread  #149 18 Nov 2021 at 7.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Rafiq the hypocrite!
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   Old Thread  #148 16 Nov 2021 at 6.35am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Like the comment by somebody underneath, think it’s something like, amazing how Harry Enfield got this spot on 29 years ago
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   Old Thread  #147 15 Nov 2021 at 9.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #146 15 Nov 2021 at 8.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Came across this. Maybe people just don’t get the Yorkshire humour

as it is

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Knob
I'm surprised there aren't more broken metatarsals as so many players at all levels seem to hit their feet when they get out
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   Old Thread  #144 12 Nov 2021 at 11.00am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I see Conway's out of the final after breaking his hand punching his bat when he got out what a muppet.
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   Old Thread  #143 11 Nov 2021 at 6.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Went quiet in Dubai that's for sure. Must admit i thought first semi could go either way second one Pakistan all the way.
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   Old Thread  #142 11 Nov 2021 at 6.33pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gutted tbh, looked home and dry after that Livingston over.
Gotta give credit to Neesham tho, that was the type of knock england needed from livingston
The late games have been won at the toss.
I can't believe aus made the final

Roy has got a nasty habit of picking up these injuries at tournaments, I hope to see the likes of Jacks Brook banton etc push their point in that role in the next year, swinging from ball one.
I felt we were 10 runs short in the power play and 15/20 short in the last 4. A very good bowling performance gave us a great chance but Neeshams knock when the dew had killed the ball finished us off.

Hopefully nz can win the toss again on sunday
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   Old Thread  #141 11 Nov 2021 at 11.18am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well played New Zealand pulled that one off.

Woakes and Jordan's 17th and 18th overs were woeful screaming out for yorkers and slower ball bouncers.
Although bowling on a length with the new ball worked when the ball was softer it was just sitting up giving them a free hit
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   Old Thread  #140 10 Nov 2021 at 9.12am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Big day today. Kiwi's will be looking for revenge and are capable. Gutted for Roy but have a perfect replacement in Jonny Bairstow. Pundits reckon Billings will come in as he is next in line but i would bring in Vince as his T20 average is double that of Billings hard on Billings but got to do what's best for the team at this stage.
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   Old Thread  #139 6 Nov 2021 at 5.27pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I see he has lost his spot with the BBC too, no surprise there though
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   Old Thread  #138 6 Nov 2021 at 11.45am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I bet Vaughan's a bit rattled denying it then Naveed comes out and backs Rafiq.
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   Old Thread  #137 5 Nov 2021 at 7.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All is resolved and fine and dandy now, they sacked the British bloke and appointed an Asian one

it’s sorted

Just hope he is the right man for the job

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   Old Thread  #136 5 Nov 2021 at 7.14pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think the fallout will rumble on for a while.
I feel for ballance a bit, he was obviously close with the guy and is getting slaughtered for offensive remarks, I mean jesus, if I'm calling someone an offensive word with whatever prefix its usually because I like them
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   Old Thread  #135 5 Nov 2021 at 10.29am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tony Greig said it all the time.
Problem for Yorkshire is they tried to sweep it under the carpet but in this day and age the media will jump on it.
My question would be if it affected him so much why did he go back there.
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   Old Thread  #134 5 Nov 2021 at 10.19am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That was a Great game
Hopefully Scotland or Namibia can get a result today, I do love an underdog.

The Yorkshire situation is interesting, I actually got told off a couple of weeks back for using the abbreviation when talking about the pakistani cricket team, my defence being that that's the only context where you can use it

"Vaughan and boycott say it on tms regularly, it must be alright"

I'll have to stop that now
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Another awesome innings by Buttler, Morgan getting some as well good to bat first and win. Sri Lanka played very well and pushed all the way but to me the difference was our fielding and Morgan's captaincy.
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   Old Thread  #132 31 Oct 2021 at 12.59pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd like to see livingstone, but his first class figures don't make great reading. Having stokes and woakes should leave room for a specialist spinner.

Re the final, I'm not counting any chickens yet, I just want to see that match up
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   Old Thread  #131 31 Oct 2021 at 10.16am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Another reason i can't understand why Livingstone isn't in the Ashes squad is his ability to bowl spin as an option.
Plenty of cricket to be played before talk of a final yes England and Pakistan have set the standard but they have to keep it up. Buttler was so pleasing on the eye as well as being brutal.
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   Old Thread  #130 31 Oct 2021 at 7.40am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd love to see an England Pakistan final, easily the 2 standout teams so far

A nice little blow from buttler and woakes ahead of the ashes too, hopefully buttler can bring that side of his game out in aus when the ball isn't doing anything (until the sandpaper comes out again )
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   Old Thread  #129 30 Oct 2021 at 8.27pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally
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One word

Ruthless!
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   Old Thread  #127 25 Oct 2021 at 9.58am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just seen that, great news

In the meantime there are some massive matches coming up.....















Scotland v Afghanistan anyone?
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Stokes added to Ashes squad is a bonus.
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   Old Thread  #125 24 Oct 2021 at 7.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cracking displays by both England and Pakistan.
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World Cup is shaping up nicely
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Bloody BBC text
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No it's today, nz won the toss and put england in
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   Old Thread  #121 20 Oct 2021 at 10.09am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Game against the Kiwi's is Thursday at 11.
If he was to drop himself i would prefer Moeen to skipper as he has Captained Worcs.
Perhaps we can drop Morgan and replace him with Hales.
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   Old Thread  #120 20 Oct 2021 at 6.39am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can't watch cricket and work at the same time tho.
Didn't find any commentary and Google isn't giving me a station for today's game either.

Interesting comments from Morgan about dropping himself, on current form he doesn't even make the squad, but he is a very good captain. Is there room for a specialist captain?
I think malan at 3 doesn't leave room for him, just because if he doesn't click he soaks up so many balls in the process the lower order have to come out striking at 2 a ball from ball one to get a decent total.
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   Old Thread  #119 18 Oct 2021 at 3.44pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Dunno about radio it's live on Sky sports cricket
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Anyone know who's got radio commentary of today's warm up game?
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   Old Thread  #117 15 Oct 2021 at 10.03am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can get Alec to cover lol.
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I see mahmood and parkinson are in the lions squad, strange call on mahmood tho unless they want to see if he's over the injury. I would have thought competitive cricket in the big bash would be a better warm up than those tour games.
Smith and foakes also in the squad
Surrey will have to find another keeper if they're losing 3 to England/lions duty
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   Old Thread  #115 13 Oct 2021 at 2.17pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not yet Ken.

I see Bumble's not impressed by the Ashes squad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-10084367/Englands-Ashes-squad-got-hope-hell-says-Bumble.html
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   Old Thread  #114 13 Oct 2021 at 2.12pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks Ken i'm not really a big reader but have got a copy coming.

Not Dark Yet.

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   Old Thread  #113 11 Oct 2021 at 7.56pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree on all counts

Would be great to see Pope come of age on the big arena.
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   Old Thread  #112 11 Oct 2021 at 7.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He's a great batsman but I don't rate his captaincy very highly.
Defensive fields letting the pressure off, poor use of spinners and bowling the quicks into the ground.
I think woakes will be a key man for us, if he can find a decent rhythm and hold an end for good spells it'll keep Jimmy and woods workload down. If he gets spanked round the park and Jimmy has to bowl 30 overs an innings we'll be in trouble.
Robinson will be one to watch on bouncy pitches, I'm not expecting to see much of broad after such a long lay off.

I'm tempted to stick a tenner on pope being top scorer, I think hell relish those pitches
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   Old Thread  #111 11 Oct 2021 at 7.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not too sure on the spinners either Root goes all defensive too soon with his field.
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   Old Thread  #110 11 Oct 2021 at 7.12pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There should be a decent few players in the big bash, not bad having Livingston Roy vince... If the batting isn't working, I don't know who will be there as a bowling option tho, Gregory usually plays in it but I think we'd be really struggling if we drafted him in

Edit: mahmood playing for sydney
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   Old Thread  #109 11 Oct 2021 at 1.14pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's why i'm surprised Mahmood isn't there maybe be asking too much of Wood.
There's George Garton not sure at test level though.
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Wood will be crucial, the rest of the seamers are all too similar.
I might have taken a punt on a left arm all rounder but Curran aside I can't think of one
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   Old Thread  #107 11 Oct 2021 at 11.42am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So they have named the Ashes squad suprised Mahmood not in there.
Really need the top six to contribute to put decent scores on the board.
Also need the spinners to be able to hold one end.
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   Old Thread  #106 27 Sept 2021 at 11.02am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I see Moeen Ali has retired from test cricket probably pissed off at being mucked about by the selectors.
Over the last few years been more a victim of a batting line up not putting enough runs on the board and a
overly defensive Captain still got a decent record though.
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Yep gutted was looking forward to it. All the players negative.
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What a crap end to the series
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Well done India cracking test match drizzling in Scotland. It looked at one stage we would have a big big 1st innings lead but they dug deep then batted us out the match i suppose. When the pressure was on we weren't up to it.
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Still positive, but it's muggy as hell and looks like a bowling day where I am. (6 miles ish from the oval)
Will need a few wickets in the tank when the new ball comes
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It's game on

Should have been a lot easier tho, some expensive mistakes in that innings

Strange to be watching such a dead pitch when wickets have been tumbling in all the County games
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Pitch not doing too much so in for a good day tomorrow
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I'm surprisingly optimistic about this chase
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Still can't believe they didn't pick Ashwin as this is made uo for him think his last bowling here for Surrey was a 6 fer.
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Tough day today!


No foakes in the Surrey squad still, probably rules him out of a trip down under
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Yeah nicely poised let's hope the heavy roller tomorrow takes the sting out of the pitch still plenty in it for the bowlers.
The 50 by Thakur could be a vital knock in this test when someone starts going at them Englands tactics always revert
to the short ball and they get carted. Just bowl at the stumps ffs.
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Decent day for England, good fightback from india
Should be fun if Overton comes out swinging in the morning

An image on the BBC cc feed made me laugh, 8 fielders round the bat in the Hampshire yorks game

Ashwin would've liked that in the 4th innings here
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   Old Thread  #94 2 Sept 2021 at 11.49am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolute corker from Woakes to get Sharma in his first over.
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Bit of drizzle in the air round Wimbledon, but looks a bowling day. Good job ashwin isn't playing, 4th innings at the oval is usually a spinners dream
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England win toss and bowl. Brave decision at The Oval but, living just round the corner the conditions are bowlers but they have to bowl in the right places otherwise you get punished on this track. Amazingly Ashwin still not picked i think India have missed him. Pope and Woakes in just hope it's not to early for Woakes. Pope needs runs on his own ground.
Surprised Wood or Mahmood are not in for pace.
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Well deserved that, an outstanding 10 months
Steyn was a great bowler, andersons biggest strength is that his body can cope with the demands. I often wondered if Steyn dropped to mid 80s pace like Jimmy did would he have had the same longevity?

The calls for Livingston fell flat then, never a good look having your stumps rearranged leaving one
Slow afternoon at work for me today, I hoped he might launch into the bowling to force a result in that match
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I see Root has gone to the top of the test batting rankings and deservedly so hope he can stay there.
On another note i see Dale Steyn has announced his retirement from all cricket. A wonderful bowler with pace
and swing shame his shoulder limited his appearances.
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I presume pope would have played for Surrey had it not been cancelled.
I hope sc plays in some of those games, batting up the order and taking the responsibility with the ball. Between his success in the franchises and limited overs stuff, and the way England have used him, he seems to have gone backwards a bit this past year. He only gets in the england side ahead of woakes and Overton if they want the left armers footmarks for moeen.
I think its a good time for a little kick up the backside as I think he'll have a big part to play down under
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   Old Thread  #88 30 Aug 2021 at 6.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Billings playing for Kent as well
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Didn't realise he was released to play for Essex
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With a few clubs affected by covid this week it would make sense, although with Lawrence playing for Essex it's not like they're in a secure bubble.
He's looked pretty sreaky when I've looked but still in there in a gloomy evening session.
Benjamin looks a proper player, it's no wonder south africa aren't up to much when players like that abandon them regularly.
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I suppose the thing is they are already part of the squad.
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It just seems so wrong to me.
As I said before, there should be 20 players ahead of them right now. I see billings is reserve keeper, I'd rather he got the nod as the extra batter
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   Old Thread  #83 29 Aug 2021 at 5.02pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Billings and Woakes it is then think they've missed a trick there.
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I agree it wouldn't be fair on the pair of them and Livingstone is in form albeit in the shorter form so give him a chance he is a special talent.
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   Old Thread  #81 28 Aug 2021 at 8.26pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No cc for Surrey this week now
Which means bairstow will have the gloves for the remainder of this series and probably the ashes too
Seems its a toss up between pope or Lawrence for buttlers vacant spot, I'd like to see livingstone come in
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Not walking distance then

@ken, don't admit that, just say it was reverse mockers
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I can see India piling on the runs, taking a lead, then bowling us out for peanuts!

So glad I got that wrong!
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   Old Thread  #78 28 Aug 2021 at 4.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'll be in Scotland fixing my son's car when the Test is on.
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Get him to get you tickets for the test match
Few available still
I've walked home from there pissed a few times but a few stops on the northern line is much more convenient
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Yeah my mate's a season ticket holder at The Oval so hopefully will go to one of the home games as a guest only a half hour walk for me.
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   Old Thread  #75 28 Aug 2021 at 3.41pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep, great performance all round, I'm expecting ashwin to play, and expecting Curran to miss out for wood or mahmoud.

Interested to see if foakes plays in the cc this week too, possibly with pope and both currans
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   Old Thread  #74 28 Aug 2021 at 2.16pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cracking display by England firstly for bowling India out for 78 in 1st inns secondly more people contributing with the bat thirdly for their bowling display this morning and fourthly for some good catches taken. Good all round performance. On to The Oval next week this result has opened this series right up i think Ashwin may be involved.
Whoever wins this series there has been some fabulous cricket.
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What a morning. So that's it! 278 all out!

All over before lunch! An innings and 76 run triumph! What a comeback after Lords.
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I may have to eat my words if we continue like this...India: 239 for 5...the Jimmy has struck.

Make that 239 for 6. Robinson looking for Michelle here!

Moen now in on the act with his 193rd wicket (level with Jim Laker!). India now 254 for 7. Feel sorry for those with day 5 tickets.

Olly's got his five! Wonderful stuff 257 for 8. Boy! am I glad I switched on TMS this morning.
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You make Michael Vaughan look like a glass half full kind of guy
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I can see India piling on the runs, taking a lead, then bowling us out for peanuts!
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It was nice to see the batsman rotate the strike to keep the score ticking over which is something Root does and makes it look so easy. Hameed took the pressure off Burns by scoring at a decent rate and Malan looked good. Bairstow got a decent ball but looked good up till then. Agree with Buttler doesn't look comfortable at all. Moeen threw his wicket away again which is a shame as he is much better than that but Roots knock was magnificent and with the others scoring now means we are in a postion to win. Oh dear we were in that position last test lol.

On a sadder note i see Chris Cairns had a stroke whilst in surgey and at present is paralysed.
Hope and pray he can make a full recovery.
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I just watched the days highlights, mostly positive apart from joss, that's a man who needs a break

Hameeds technique against short stuff looks worrying, the way he ducks and turns away, especially when I noticed he doesn't have the neck protectors on his lid. The one that caught him bought back memories of Phil hughes
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Roooooooooooooooot
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Now THAT'S more like it! Make 'em suffer today, boys...this wicket is made for Joe and if they try that silly stuff against Jimmy again, I reckon he'll knock the cover off!
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Unbelievable day!
Now to go BIG tomorrow
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Well well well cracking day for England.
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You were right Overton in for Woods India batting first.
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I reckon Mahmood might get the nod for his pace just can't see us scoring enough runs the Indian pace attack is firing on all cylinders and look at home in our conditions.

Good article by Rob Key.
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an interesting take on the cc situation

I'd like to see mahmoud today, but Overton will probably get the nod as the better batter
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Yeah got a few bowlers out now but it's our batting that's letting us down.
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Thanks Ken i'm not really a big reader but have got a copy coming.
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I see England are lacking wood again this week...
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....then decided it was time to pack it in as it was becoming more of a chore to turn up.

I think the book Not Dark Yet would be right up your street!

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I stopped playing regularly in 04 when my daughter was born, played the odd game between then in 2018 I got back into it.
Trouble now tho, I can't bowl anymore and I need lots of nets to play as a batsman. I'll have the odd over if I get riled but it ain't worth the pain when my knee is trying to dislocate itself every ball
I think I'm done now tho, it's so much harder to arrange anything since covid, and it's really a choice between cricket or fishing as both doesn't leave any time for the kids

I quite enjoy repairing bats, and did quite a few alterations for people, usually concaving the backs to get the weight down a bit. I bought a few pressed clefts to copy bats for people too, that's actually pretty difficult as you can perfectly match the shape, get the weight very close but it can feel totally different even when the handle is broken in a bit.
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   Old Thread  #55 22 Aug 2021 at 9.22am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I split my Kookaburra at the bottom with a chunk coming off and saw an advert for bat repairs so sent some photos and he said yep send it up so sent to Wakefield i think it was bat was back within 5 days looking like new and cost 25 quid.
And that was 2015 played 2016 season with it then decided it was time to pack it in as it was becoming more of a chore to turn up.
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   Old Thread  #54 22 Aug 2021 at 8.16am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had a newbery, it was a mates but he dug out a yorker with it before knocking it in properly and put a big split half way through it.
Thing is, after I glued and dowelled it he didn't want it back, but I rehandled it twice, it just kept going.
Slazenger was a brand I couldn't get on with, all that kit I had fell apart
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   Old Thread  #53 21 Aug 2021 at 10.33pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I started with kookaburra and gray nicholls then had a Newbury and then a millichamp and hall when I played; the m&h was a work of art. Also had an SS from a mate, that was like swinging a small hatchback about!
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I'm not sure it was the kahuna but my first sh size bat was a kookaburra, I'd had all gray-nics as a kid. Funny tho, my current, little used bat is huge and really flies when you middle it, but is only 2lb 6ish, I have an old bat kicking about at my dad's place, I think it was a sundridge, tiny edges and you really had to commit and middle it to get one to the boundary but weighs well over 3lb
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   Old Thread  #51 21 Aug 2021 at 9.25pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had GN Scoop which i bought from the Alf Gover cricket school in wandsworth. I then changed that for a Stuart Surridge Jumbo which was heavy but made me play straight. After that was a Slazenger V12 which i had for quite a few seasons and then i had a Kookaburra Big Kahuna awesome bat. Not many really over 30 years of playing.
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   Old Thread  #50 21 Aug 2021 at 7.51pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I kind of remember that match with the malcolm spell.

It's funny watching old clips, those toothpick bats look comical now. I did love the scoop bats I had as a kid tho
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   Old Thread  #49 20 Aug 2021 at 5.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree about RGD Willis.
Although 2005 was also an amazing series it was because we hadn't beaten them for years and to give out MBE's was
in my view a bit overkill.
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Good to see Chris Cairns off life support. Damn right.

For those too young (Duggs) to have experienced the euphoria of the 1981 Ashes series...they aren't called 'Botham's Ashes' for nothing. That said, sadly I feel that Bob's 8 for 43 is often overlooked. I cannot recall a more hostile one-man bowling attack***. At times during his unbroken 15.1 over spell he used five slips and a short leg, which should tell you all you need to know about pace and hostility. Rod Marsh tried to take on the bowling, but he put one down Graham Dilley's throat, which was very apt: don't forget GD's considerable contribution with the bat at Headingley, scoring a vital 56 at one end while Botham scored at will at the other. Old Trafford followed...Nuff said.

And never forget Bob's great commentating style for Sky...And he was a massive Bob Dylan fan, Dylan being one of his adopted middle names. To be alive and watching that series was to experience cricketing bliss, not matched, as far as I am concerned, by any other experience (though maybe the so-called 'Greatest Series' of 2005 should get a look in).

Bit of trivia that some may find fun: There exists a book that is titled 'Not Dark Yet' a homage to one of Dylan's songs. Inside are many chapters also titled with Dylan songs. The book is dedicated to Robert George Dylan Willis. It is the funniest book about cricket I have ever read, not that there are too many of them out there! I thoroughly advise any cricket lover to give it a read:

LINK to Amazon.

*** Actually, I can recall just such an example:

Devon Malcolm - you're dead!
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Good to see Chris Cairns off life support.
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I remember the '81 ashes was on holiday in Somerset and due to go on a boat trip in Taunton but told the others to go and i stayed at the cottage and watched the cricket i sensed something would happen after Botham's 149 and watched every ball of the last day. What people forget is Botham took 6 wkts in 1st inns then scored 50 then 149 not out following on then Willis took 8-43 incredible to watch.
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   Old Thread  #45 18 Aug 2021 at 6.48pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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remember the 1981 ashes

No, I wasn't born

It's quite amazing, really, vince and livingstone in great form and have been playing against quality bowling, pope meanwhile has scored no runs against club level attacks.
Throwing either of those lads back in would be damaging.
Same with hammeed, he's been useless for three years, had three good months and is thrown to the lions. A setback now could destroy him.
Those three guys aren't in a position to survive a sink or swim situation.
I'm actually pi55ed of with that selection.
Hopefully buttler keeps the gloves

If this is what silverwood is all about he can do one!

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Sibley and Crawley out but Lawrence and Pope stay.
Just Malan in don't understand that give Vince another go and why not Livingstone.
I said at the start I think it's India's series and see nothing to change that.
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   Old Thread  #43 18 Aug 2021 at 5.31pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We need a Mike Bearley...remember the 1981 Ashes? Ian "We were going to sack him anyway" Botham. God, how I miss those days!
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   Old Thread  #42 18 Aug 2021 at 8.44am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe your right and there is something deeper but lets not take away the performance of the Indian bowlers.
Most of the balls that took wickets had to be played at but that is just one innings and this is been happening for a while now. Think the squad is announced today so see what Silverwood has got lined up now. Wonder if The Hundred finishing will have an effect on who is picked?
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   Old Thread  #41 17 Aug 2021 at 6.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Burns has really struggled with sibley, he looks better when sibley goes early. That partnership isn't working.
I'm not sure it's an issue with personnel anymore, so many good players are failing constantly, looking totally devoid of confidence when the put the england cap on, I think you have to look beyond the batsmen, something else is going wrong.

As you say, silverwoods arse is on the line now
Roots captaincy should also be on the line, but nobody else is playing well enough to guarantee a place in the team let alone lead it
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   Old Thread  #40 17 Aug 2021 at 2.32pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Don't worry The Hundred will sort it.

Agree with Buttler give Bairstow the gloves for now.
Sibley should go.
Burns just looks so awkward but he batted well in 1st innings.
Hameed stays for me.
Agree with Pope it's alright if other batsmen are scoring to be able to nuture him but they aren't so maybe Vince and Malan can come in. Seeing that Silverwood is the selector now his job is on the line.
Thing is have we got the players in the county game to stand up to this superb Indian pace attack.

Ken you may be right about the ashes if it goes ahead.
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The middle order has been no better.

Another duck for pope today, there are 20 players who should be ahead of him right now but no doubt he'll play the next test.

Malan or vince at 3 (dropping sibley) buttler needs a breather too

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I don't have words to describe that performance. I feel so sorry for Joe and Jimmy, who both played a blinder for four days, but who, along with the rest of the eleven (and the dressing room) lost the plot badly. Furthermore, I don't think England can recover from this thrashing, which does not bode well for the Ashes series. To allow themselves to be wound up like a spring like that was inexcusable.

Looking ahead to Leeds, I think England have got a reasonable bowling attack, but the top order needs some serious work done on it.
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   Old Thread  #37 16 Aug 2021 at 6.47pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Well played India you never give up.
England's tactics when India was 8 down was crap so many men on the boundary ffs.
Attack and pitch the ball up on the stumps.
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   Old Thread  #36 15 Aug 2021 at 8.13pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes as you say nicely poised.
Over rates are dreadful about time they done something about it. Bumble would be pleased.
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Nicely poised game

But why, even with 25 overs of spin can't they bowl all 90
If the grounds had to refund lost overs it'd be sorted quickly
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Another stunning knock by Root with a little bit more support from Bairstow, Buttler and Moeen but his innngs deserved more than 27 lead imo. Just need to bowl in the right areas now. Rahul just gone 18-1.
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If its been relegated to an academy level competition they should at least make it useful, use the pink ball and grow a crop of players used to dominating bowlers with a ball thats swinging and nipping about up top, and softening up and reversing late on.
I'd do a few day-night matches at the oval watching that
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Sadly the ECB is screwing normal cricket as we know it for the money and hellbent on promoting the far inferior womens
game.
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Pope's day out didn't last long, easy win tho.
Why play a limited overs tournament while all of the decent players are signed up for the undred? Is 50 over cricket dying now too?

Difficult day for England, need Jimmy to nick a couple with the new ball tonight
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I can't help feeling that the decision to put India in to bat will come back to haunt Root. If Rohit and Rahul reach 129 it will be the highest Test opening stand by a touring side against England in England after they have been asked to bat first (from the BBC's Andy Saltzman).

Edit: Good on ya, Jimmy! Cometh the hour, etc. Now bowl a few more like that.
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Sadly the money in white ball cricket will keep the red ball game ticking over at county level so the red ball game
will be lagging behind as it is now and i can't see it changing in the future.
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   Old Thread  #28 12 Aug 2021 at 12.20pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah sad news, didn't look good for him

In the short forms, England seem well above everyone, to the point they can cobble together a third string squad in a couple of days and still win a series against a very good team.
So something very positive has happened in white ball cricket in the past 6 years or so, we desperately need to get the likes of Roy, Jacks, salt, banton, livingstone..... Playing quality Red ball cricket.
It'd never happen but I liked kp's suggestion of a 1st class franchise tournament, with less teams and a higher overall standard

I thought foakes would play today, even if just as a batsman, looks like a cakewalk on paper
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Yeah 2nd string Aussie side i see Chris Cairns is in Intensive care in Sydney.
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   Old Thread  #26 12 Aug 2021 at 11.32am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only saw a brief highlight reel, the sort that could make sibley look destructive
Too much cricket to keep track of it all.
Enjoyed seeing Bangladesh destroy the aussie tho
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Sibley keeps his place Crawley gets dropped shame I'd rather keep Crawley more potential IMO.
Did you see any of that innings of Tim David in the last one day cup game just like Jacks fast hand speed and timing.
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Shame he can't get a game in 1st class cricket while away...
If gets runs in the one day Cup this week he'll end up in the hundred
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   Old Thread  #23 12 Aug 2021 at 10.38am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pope released from squad
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Broad out for the series!

A spinner will have to bowl a fair bit I'd imagine to tie an end up without the old stagers.
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Anderson a doubt now.
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The broad injury would have driven that one

Hopefully wood is in the lineup tomorrow, they looked short on pace the last test
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Saqib Mahmood been added as well now must be happy with batting line up.
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   Old Thread  #18 10 Aug 2021 at 9.02pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Watching isn't easy is it with all that crap on the screen.
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It tells them that the team needs a batsman more than a spinner
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I see they have recalled Moeen Ali what's that say to Leach and Bess already in the squad.
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To be honest, I'd rather stick red-hot pins in my eyes than watch The 100.
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Thing is they have selected a squad for first two tests so barring injury can't see them bringing anyone in.

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Who watched the hundred last night?
Poor hales
match reduced to 65 balls, hales reduced to none
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   Old Thread  #12 8 Aug 2021 at 10.35pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Butler isn't a test batsman.
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Foakes only started training again this week, can't see him getting a call for this series. Malan is being talked of as potential no3, personally I'd rather see vince get another crack, I feel he's improved a lot the past 2 years
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So match has been abandoned...so I got that bit right! Bullet dodged IMHO. But take nothing away from the skipper's fantastic ton. Need to look at the batting (AGAIN!) as Crawley and maybe Sibley are not cutting it. Not sure about Dan Lawrence.

Malan and maybe Hameed to come in. Keep Bairstow at 5 and maybe drop Butler for a new face with the gloves. Ben Foakes, perhaps?
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If only Rahan had not been run out by Bairstow we might have had two fifers there. Still, a bit sloppy to allow them to get such a big 1st innings lead!
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This one's hanging in the balance...Do yer stuff, Jimmy! Weather will be the deciding factor.
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I see Ansari is on the board of Cricket Equality.
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The stokes situation bought him to mind, I remember at the time he said something along the lines of "I looked at what stokes put himself through and knew I didn't want to do this anymore"

Decent afternoon session
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Ansari was a great prospect i agree.
To me England players don't seem to have the same discipline in knowing which balls to leave.
As for Hameed agree it's too early but he is in the squad i would have left him playing in the 50 over or 2nd eleven to
get more time in the middle.
All the while these shorter formats are taking up most of the summer backed by the ECB then the test team will suffer.
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I think it's a bit too soon to throw hameed back in there after a decent start to the season on the back of three dreadful ones.

You said it on the other thread, no red ball cricket for 2 months then going up against India.... Big mistake there! Burns was in great form but hasnt played in ages, sibley has hardly played at all this season, buttler isn't in great form...

Ive been meaning to see if zafir ansari has said anything recently re stokes, he was a really promising player, decided to give up the game after 1 cap. If you don't remember the story it's worth a google
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Can't see us beating the Australians, can see us being Whitewashed in fact. We've good enough bowlers including spin. I think our batting line up is the worst its been in year's, no bottle and constant poor shot choice.
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To be honest i don't think the Ashes will go ahead or if it does will be with depleted squad.
Will need Anderson Broad and Robinson to bowl well to get anything out of this test not forgetting Curran with a swinging ball as well. Surprised Hameed wasn't in the 11. Lawrence looks good 1 out of 4 knocks.
Lets not take anything away from the Indian bowlers they bowled well in the conditions.
For me India takes the series
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   Old Thread  #1 4 Aug 2021 at 4.29pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
OK. So we've got India and the Aussies as our next ten tests. No Stokes. No Archer. Jimmy now 39, Broad now 35. No top class spinner on the horizon. So given that we are already 145 for 6 v India*** what's yer thinking?

I'm going to predict that we'll win both series by one clear Test match. (God loves an optimist!)

***155 for 7. 159 for 8. 160 for 9!!!

I would hope Jimmy and Stu can get the same movement as the Indian quicks. They'll be on soon after tea!
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