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   Old Thread  #44 17 Aug 2021 at 5.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you're right there many rigs that are just different ways of achieving the same effect. Some use more bits than others. Whether they are better is very subjective.
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   Old Thread  #43 17 Aug 2021 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think we have all been guilty at some point in getting caught up in the latest rig fad. ( Maybe not Ken )..

Tried the slip D rig for a bit as I was finding my usual hair type rig I was using I was getting the hair wrapping round the hook quite a lot.. ( yes before you say it in know about PVA Tape and starch nuggets ). I'm lazy..

Thought I'd give the slip D a go. But ended up with the same problems. Maybe it was happening on the retriever but it dont exactly instill you with confidence does it..

Ended up going over to the stiffer loop on the multi rig. Problem solved


But the more and more I look at the rig. ( yes I know its quick change ) for how close the loop is to the shank of the hook. You might aswell have the mini swivel O ring bait screw or what ever you use sliding up the hook shank..
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   Old Thread  #42 11 Aug 2021 at 10.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes i have used something similar to what you describe for a few years now and have similar views to you about birds not pulling the d section down certainly not on my rig anyway
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   Old Thread  #41 11 Aug 2021 at 7.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think I first saw it published in 2005 in an issue of big carp - I used it then and caught a few but I always found it a bit of a pain in the arse to tie and went for a ring blowback instead as I wanted something to reset.

I have been using a hybrid of the multi-rig / slip d for over a year now and it's now my goto for all bottom bait fishing - the main reason being that I can change hooks nd hair lengths very very quickly as I got fed up of casting a new rig out and then having it come back with the point gone over on the first cast. the hook holds I have been getting are between some of the best I have ever had (I had 4 fish in a day where I needed forceps and I've not used forceps on a hookhold for years - in turn, I have lost a few and had some hookholds slightly outside of the mouth so I am putting this down to the feeding situation at the time.

with respect to the bird pickup comments - I have definitely found that bird pickups don't pull the d section down as other people have alluded too - the only time I have had that happen are when I've been done by fish - reeling in after rod knocks etc or when it has snagged on something on the bottom.

it is saving me a hell of a lot of time around rig tying and saving me $$$ on hooklength material too.
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   Old Thread  #40 11 Aug 2021 at 11.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Should have called it the "floppy D"
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   Old Thread  #39 11 Aug 2021 at 10.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You would have to ask martin clarke why he called it the slip d but maybe because unlike a stiff material d rig which stays in place the soft d allows more movement for the baits on ejection by moving away from the hook and can even slip past the eye of the hook.
You have also got to bear in mind how many years ago he named this rig
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   Old Thread  #38 11 Aug 2021 at 7.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You could tell that to the perfectly hooked ducks that have dived on the bait in the past few weeks.

You have many as I think it was Ken put it, Youtube rigs.
Snake rig, Scorpion rig, Slip D.

Now I don't faff around with rigs, I use what works for me, which is a standard D for pop-ups, occasionally a multi-rig.

The advantage of the multi rig is it can be very effective with bottom baits as well, and I seem to recall Martin Locke calls it his Kebab rig; 3 different baits on the hair (or spike).
This is actually either set to slip tight, or is tight in the first place.

Many rigs are reinventions, rehashed, and renamed, because the current generation of anglers want new fashion...😖😅😉
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   Old Thread  #37 11 Aug 2021 at 1.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I seem to remember a rig use by lockey which was the same many years ago. Someone is always re-inventing the wheel. A lot of rigs do the same job. You only really need 2 or 3 rigs to cover most situations.
Chilly would say you only need one.
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   Old Thread  #36 10 Aug 2021 at 11.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why is it called a Slip D rig then, surely thats just a D rig?
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   Old Thread  #35 10 Aug 2021 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you watch martin clarkes gardner video of the slip d it isn't a multi rig and the d doesn't slip down to the eye when a fish pulls the hooklink tight, his version is just like a stiff d rig knotless knotted but with braid and if he uses a big ring the bait and ring can pass back over the eye of the hook on ejection.

Both versions can be set up with similar properties although the true multi version offers easy change of the hook
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   Old Thread  #34 10 Aug 2021 at 6.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Load of ballcocks invented for the YouTube generation.

Don't let them **** with your head, guys!
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   Old Thread  #33 10 Aug 2021 at 6.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thats what i thought. They were the exact same thing. Made sense they called it a slip D for that reason, because it slips. So why is it called a slip D?
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   Old Thread  #32 10 Aug 2021 at 3.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .I always thought the 'slip' in the slip D was the key . . .ie. it slips / pulls taught to the eye of the hook when you get a take / have been done. IMO this is also called the Ultimate Rig (Mark Bryant) which is in effect, a combi rig with the braided section set up as a multi rig . . .

Confused . . . you should be! (or either that I am . . . )
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   Old Thread  #31 27 Jul 2021 at 5.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's clear what you are saying, but in my experience things aren't as clear cut as you make out.
And I use the multi because I find it gives better hookholds and seems to get me more bites
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   Old Thread  #30 27 Jul 2021 at 4.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Coming back on topic why do you use the multi instead of the slip d?
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