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   Old Thread  #6 8 Apr 2021 at 5.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I tend to try and stick to <10% in my finished baits and use the same baits all year. In the height of summer then its easy to add a little extra oil if you feel it will attract fish but I would add this as a glug not in the bait.
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   Old Thread  #5 8 Apr 2021 at 3.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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With regards to fats does it also dependent on time of year, low fat in winter higher summer as digestion speeds up and slows down? What overall % would be good to aim for? 5% in winter to 10% in summer. I would imagine the natural diet of fish would normally be fairly low, so do they recognise it as a good food/energy source.
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   Old Thread  #4 8 Apr 2021 at 9.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In my experience I would say WPC and the lambs/calf milk products are both very sticky in a mix hence good at holding a mix together (binding). Both are very soluble. However the lambs/calf milk products are normally high in fats so I now only use them if the rest of the mix is naturally lower in fats.

My views on fats in baits has changed over the years (to using less) as I get older I care more about the long term health of the fish. That's not to say carp are not attracted to some fats (caproic acid is a type of saturated fat) but too much accumulates in the liver and can lead to premature death.

Save the high fat/oils for high attract single baits imho
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   Old Thread  #3 8 Apr 2021 at 8.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks, so looking at WPC does that have similar properties to milk replacers for calf and lambs in relation to binding and other bait construction properties and fish attraction feeding?
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   Old Thread  #2 7 Apr 2021 at 8.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think of the hydro in the same way as pre-digested fishmeal, it brings similar things. It has no binding ability, unlike WPC80.

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   Old Thread  #1 7 Apr 2021 at 7.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
With regards to the different types of whey available these day is there any benefit in using isolate or hydrolysate whey over whey concentrate WPC? There is obviously the cost factor as the more you process the higher the cost, do they have better rolling binding qualities?

WPC would contain more fats and sugars so is it better as itís more rounded. ££
Isolate higher protein content reduced fat and sugar content. £££
Hydrolysate has higher amino acid content ££££

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