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   Old Thread  #134 13 Jul 2021 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If people really understood how effective hookbaits can be (not just that blank sphere overflavoured) then you will realise how my theory of less bait and better hookbaits has served me so well on the busiest of circuit waters. Many anglers associate strong smelling hookbaits as attractive and I have no doubt some of them are. But at this time of year on pressured venues it makes it very easy for carp to pick that one out. This is where Ken’s food bait theory really comes in. Food value not smell value (to humans)
I still say that there is not one single hookbait that I can use on every single venue for every month of the year, I have to chop and change from my favourite attractor visual favourite to the food bait ones at times. If the pop up base contains Fishmeal, powders, liquids and even milk proteins then the very foundations of the hookbaits is saying “eat me”. In the past that wasn’t possible unless it was a bottom bait. The techniques we use today are allowing so much more to be added. Our noses often send us down the wrong path in carp fishing. I fished this weekend on a venue that isn’t hugely pressured and the bites came on bright Wafters and my go to pop up. But two weeks ago on another venue I couldn’t get a bite on them so I switched to a food bait low smelling matching one that has had minamino worked into it. The bites came almost instantly.
The hookbait is a lure, you either make it appear like a freebie or you make it stand out. Both have benefits at the right time.
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   Old Thread  #133 13 Jul 2021 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I always wonder what good is applying any sort of liquid to a hookbait when surely it just washes off as soon as it hits the water?

Yes, that is the whole point. Ideally you need an instant surge of attraction backed up by a slow release source. A food message is simply that, a message that says 'eat me' to the carp. Bear in mind that such a message does not need to be a solid, it can equally be in liquid form and some of the best attractors are amino acid-rich liquids. A carp does not need to physically eat a substance to assess its nutritional worth. See if you can find any of Rod Hutchinson's articles on bait and attraction. 'The Carp Strikes back' is a good starting point. Similarly, listen to the Carp Chronicles podcasts, which often features top carp angling brains such as Jason Rider, John Baker and Dean Towey to name but a few. Your brain will explode at times, but there is much wisdom to be found on there.

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Google free aminos, pH shift, or Why not ask Gavin at Handcraft? Glad you got yourself sorted with a really top class bait at last. Told you it was good kit, didn't I?
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   Old Thread  #132 13 Jul 2021 at 9.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Placed another order yesterday delivered by 8.30am this morning all the deliveries have been the same outstanding service.
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   Old Thread  #131 11 Jul 2021 at 9.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Within two weeks
I just need to get the shelf life perfect. Not long now😉
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   Old Thread  #130 11 Jul 2021 at 7.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
When is the herb available and will there be shelf life
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   Old Thread  #129 11 Jul 2021 at 5.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not if you take time applying the liquids and letting the hookbaits draw them
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   Old Thread  #128 11 Jul 2021 at 3.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’m not sure if it was the bait that made the difference or me learning new things about the lake. I like to think it was a mixture of the two. Interestingly, I had two rods out, one with a soaked pop up and one with a non soaked pop up and the carp one went for the non soaked one. Proves they are attractive without the soak.

I always wonder what good is applying any sort of liquid to a hookbait when surely it just washes off as soon as it hits the water?
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   Old Thread  #127 11 Jul 2021 at 3.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ken Townley said he uses crunchy peanut butter mixed with a whey protein on some of his baits.

As a hookbait paste wrap for bottom baits...
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   Old Thread  #126 11 Jul 2021 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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See! There you go...

@ post #124: Agree 100%.
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   Old Thread  #125 11 Jul 2021 at 1.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They’re spot on mate. Keep up the good work. Caught me my first carp on a very hard water.

I only asked about the peanut butter coating because there’s a thread about just that at the moment. Ken townley said he uses crunchy peanut butter mixed with a whey protein on some of his baits.

What about a hemp and garlic pop up?
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   Old Thread  #124 11 Jul 2021 at 10.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If anyone is buying your baits and then soaking them in goo, they need putting on the blocked list.
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   Old Thread  #123 10 Jul 2021 at 10.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers for the comments lads, and well done for catching those fish. I wouldn’t add anything to the pop ups personally as they are made with several layers of attraction from things like minamino, fruit palatants, sweetners, milks, fishmeal etc. But I also realise you guys love almond goo or mainline sprays or whatever so we just make sure the buoyancy will take it. At the end of the day you guys need to be confident. The peanut pop up is made from peanut protein…..no need to add anything to that! We have been working hard this week to keep up with orders and next week looks busy too. Super squid and red legend have sold incredibly well. We have really enjoyed making these baits and we are always looking out for that next edge😉
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   Old Thread  #122 10 Jul 2021 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There will be enough attraction in them to use on there own bud
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   Old Thread  #121 10 Jul 2021 at 5.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In your opinion, would coating a peanut pop up in crunchy peanut butter add any attraction to the bait?
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   Old Thread  #120 10 Jul 2021 at 5.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Over the moon! Got my first carp from a water I had previously blanked the past 8 sessions on a krill and cal pop up.
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