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   Old Thread  #142 14 Jul 2021 at 3.29pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There is one water near me that always makes me smile. It is the hardest most natural food infested lake I have ever cast into. One of my baits has caught most of the carp in that lake several times over yet other baits used there struggle to make 2 captures in a year. The one thing about the winning bait…….a basemix made with lots of minerals, salts, and protein…..a really nice fishmeal,krill, birdfood, milk, combo!
The bigguns last few captures have all revolved around that bait.
On a different note we have been discussing bright baits here today and it seems that they are still the most popular hookbait of choice
Super squid and sting are the biggest sellers here
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   Old Thread  #141 14 Jul 2021 at 1.03pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
My order turned up just now, placed yesterday pm....

Those Sting pop ups and wafters brought back some memories when i unscrewed the lid....
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   Old Thread  #140 14 Jul 2021 at 10.56am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The base mix attraction is enough, but the way the impact and ice red attract naturals is a huge part of the attraction imo
I found the impact useless on one water, it took a while to realise there just wasn't the invertebrate life at the depths I was fishing to get the best out of it

It's interesting seeing ice red cork balls in the edge too, it doesn't take long for the snails to get to them, it kind of makes a mockery of these finely balanced presentations
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   Old Thread  #139 14 Jul 2021 at 10.12am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That natural impact is awesome stuff. Mixed 50/50 with the o.p.m and a coupl of extra bits it's something else though...
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   Old Thread  #138 14 Jul 2021 at 9.57am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I totally agree. Many years ago I was doing a bit of testing for Carp Company. Apart from the ice red, one of their best baits was Natural Impact. I used to have it rolled with a crab flavour from memory. Talking to Jules about it, he said it was the bait that he personally used but when he rolled it for himself he added no flavour at all. When I questioned him about this he said that the individual ingredients were attractive enough that he didn’t feel it needed a flavour label added. Essentially the complete opposite of nearly all shop bought pop ups!!
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   Old Thread  #137 13 Jul 2021 at 11.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you Google chemoreception it will give you quite a lot to read up
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   Old Thread  #136 13 Jul 2021 at 8.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Saw lots of carp high up in the water column today at my lake. How does this differ in different seasons? I feel like I need to understand where they are before I can target them.
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   Old Thread  #135 13 Jul 2021 at 8.02pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers Ken. That all sounds like helpful stuff.

Sometimes I think we can can become so obsessed with the bait itself, that we neglect to first fully understand the science and behaviour of what is actually eating the bait.

What is a carps main sense when it comes to finding food?
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   Old Thread  #134 13 Jul 2021 at 3.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If people really understood how effective hookbaits can be (not just that blank sphere overflavoured) then you will realise how my theory of less bait and better hookbaits has served me so well on the busiest of circuit waters. Many anglers associate strong smelling hookbaits as attractive and I have no doubt some of them are. But at this time of year on pressured venues it makes it very easy for carp to pick that one out. This is where Ken’s food bait theory really comes in. Food value not smell value (to humans)
I still say that there is not one single hookbait that I can use on every single venue for every month of the year, I have to chop and change from my favourite attractor visual favourite to the food bait ones at times. If the pop up base contains Fishmeal, powders, liquids and even milk proteins then the very foundations of the hookbaits is saying “eat me”. In the past that wasn’t possible unless it was a bottom bait. The techniques we use today are allowing so much more to be added. Our noses often send us down the wrong path in carp fishing. I fished this weekend on a venue that isn’t hugely pressured and the bites came on bright Wafters and my go to pop up. But two weeks ago on another venue I couldn’t get a bite on them so I switched to a food bait low smelling matching one that has had minamino worked into it. The bites came almost instantly.
The hookbait is a lure, you either make it appear like a freebie or you make it stand out. Both have benefits at the right time.
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   Old Thread  #133 13 Jul 2021 at 12.13pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I always wonder what good is applying any sort of liquid to a hookbait when surely it just washes off as soon as it hits the water?

Yes, that is the whole point. Ideally you need an instant surge of attraction backed up by a slow release source. A food message is simply that, a message that says 'eat me' to the carp. Bear in mind that such a message does not need to be a solid, it can equally be in liquid form and some of the best attractors are amino acid-rich liquids. A carp does not need to physically eat a substance to assess its nutritional worth. See if you can find any of Rod Hutchinson's articles on bait and attraction. 'The Carp Strikes back' is a good starting point. Similarly, listen to the Carp Chronicles podcasts, which often features top carp angling brains such as Jason Rider, John Baker and Dean Towey to name but a few. Your brain will explode at times, but there is much wisdom to be found on there.

CARP CHRONICLES PODCASTS.


Google free aminos, pH shift, or Why not ask Gavin at Handcraft? Glad you got yourself sorted with a really top class bait at last. Told you it was good kit, didn't I?
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   Old Thread  #132 13 Jul 2021 at 9.26am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Placed another order yesterday delivered by 8.30am this morning all the deliveries have been the same outstanding service.
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   Old Thread  #131 11 Jul 2021 at 9.17pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Within two weeks
I just need to get the shelf life perfect. Not long now😉
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   Old Thread  #130 11 Jul 2021 at 7.30pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
When is the herb available and will there be shelf life
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   Old Thread  #129 11 Jul 2021 at 5.53pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not if you take time applying the liquids and letting the hookbaits draw them
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   Old Thread  #128 11 Jul 2021 at 3.48pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I’m not sure if it was the bait that made the difference or me learning new things about the lake. I like to think it was a mixture of the two. Interestingly, I had two rods out, one with a soaked pop up and one with a non soaked pop up and the carp one went for the non soaked one. Proves they are attractive without the soak.

I always wonder what good is applying any sort of liquid to a hookbait when surely it just washes off as soon as it hits the water?
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