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   Old Thread  #575 28 May 2022 at 5.59pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fist play fella!! You lads have scored well.
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   Old Thread  #574 28 May 2022 at 2.50pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Another mid 20 park lake common

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   Old Thread  #573 28 May 2022 at 9.09am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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3 U.K. 40s sent in today and one was the hardwick lake record at 46.9
Sting 12mm pop ups doing the business
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   Old Thread  #572 28 May 2022 at 9.08am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And what a beauty she was mate
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   Old Thread  #571 27 May 2022 at 9.26pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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21-8 fully scaled for meÖÖ..minterÖÖ.
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   Old Thread  #570 26 May 2022 at 9.52pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Glad you like them mate
Next week we are going to make a ridiculous amount of bait to see if we can catch up a bit! Some lovely fish coming out around the U.K., hopefully many have now spawned and will be in need of some decent food. Even I may wet a line this weekend 😉
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   Old Thread  #569 26 May 2022 at 8.57pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tricknut and Herb for me,order will be coming in soon for more
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   Old Thread  #568 26 May 2022 at 7.43pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi mate
Iím afraid we canít really run deals on boilies. I put too much into and not huge profit margins. I had an email today asking for more discount on 200k of herb, same answer really, I just wonít make anything so it will be a pointless exercise making it.
You will love the herb, itís becoming one of those baits that carp and anglers are loving right now!
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   Old Thread  #567 26 May 2022 at 7.09pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have to be honest here and say you will struggle to find a better bait at £7.80 per kilo in those quantities.
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   Old Thread  #566 26 May 2022 at 7.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Any deals on the Herb i want to take 10kg with me to France?
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   Old Thread  #565 24 May 2022 at 8.09am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Banoffee 14mm pop ups
Peanut praline dumbbell Wafters
Herb and tricknut paste kits all added to the website recently. I know several of you lads had asked.
Deep c Wafters due In soon!
Thanks for the photos you lads have been sending in.
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   Old Thread  #564 16 May 2022 at 9.47pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a nice common it was mate!! Shared on Instagram and Facebook
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   Old Thread  #563 15 May 2022 at 9.20pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Alright gav I will email you a few pictures over but you might have to crop them a bit because like an idiot I forgot to move the water bottle out of the way lol.
Definitely impressed by the herb so far mate
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   Old Thread  #562 15 May 2022 at 9.05pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
My son and daughter had there 1st carp today on super squid over s7
Think the both have the bug and are wanting to go next week
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   Old Thread  #561 15 May 2022 at 8.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well done Dean. Itís much easier to send it to us than post on here (Iím a technophobe 😂 but to be honest, all that matters to me is that itís working for you buddy.
Judging by the thousands (literally) of photos coming in this year I know itís going to be a busy time for us, just hope you all get to go out and fill your boots!! Keep them coming mate
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   Old Thread  #560 15 May 2022 at 7.25pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Alright mate had a 34.4lb common yesterday morning first time out on the herb on a tricky little water. Not got a clue how to post a picture on here lol. So well impressed and should be putting in an order again soon
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   Old Thread  #559 15 May 2022 at 6.49pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well done fella! Been some awesome carp caught this weekend. Iím a bit out of the loop as itís been a family weekend for the first time in weeks but My phone has been busy again! Every double and twenty is important to us so keep them coming dale!!
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   Old Thread  #558 14 May 2022 at 11.52pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Every bit as valid as the biggest fish in the world if it puts a smile on your face, well done 🙂 👍🏼
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   Old Thread  #557 14 May 2022 at 11.49pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No massive fish for me, but two little 'uns in a couple of hours this evening. This is the better of the two and just scraped a doule. Bits box is just under 10 inches long. (Hopefully the linky thing works!)
Both on naked chods with pink squid wafters from the rather nice Handcraft range Cheers Gav!

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   Old Thread  #556 13 May 2022 at 8.00pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I guess it depends on how the lakes ran, easier to justify I think on a day ticket rather than a syndicate. I should have a ticket coming up fairly soon in a lake where the owner is fastidious about an optimal ecosystem in the lakes, trying to get them big nautically and itís working well, unfortunately the tickets expensive because doing things properly isnít cheap, but the plus side of that is you see where the money goes, an extra 50 quid on a 50 man syndicate ticket is 2.5k which is a nice bit of supplementary food for em. And as you say there are certain times of the year those who own the lakes knows itís important to have food avaliable for them
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   Old Thread  #555 13 May 2022 at 7.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Supplementary feeding is always important. I often wonder how big carp would get each year if they had a longer rest and they were fed in between! Itís something I have done for 15 years now, Iím adamant itís why the fish look so pristine and make good weights all year round. Especially for the month after spawning. Mine get double rations for 3/4 weeks 😉
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   Old Thread  #554 12 May 2022 at 11.24am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They had a quarter of a ton of BP Milling Gold fed to them last year Gav, they were generally left unfished for until this April, we had a little dabble in the Christmas break to see if they had done anything which is when I caught the one common at 19.8, we have about a dozen or so of the 44 fish we put back in go from 6,7,8lb weights to 15lb and upwards now to 19.8 being the best, surprisingly it is the commons that have done the better weights rather than the mirrors although the mirrors have done 4/5ish pounds on average and only 25 of the 44 of the stock have been out so far so there may be a few more surprises, the futures certainly looking good, we will supplementary feed for this year until October and then its purely down to the anglers bait.
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   Old Thread  #553 12 May 2022 at 11.12am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair play Ian!! Growing well!!
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   Old Thread  #552 12 May 2022 at 10.46am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nice Carp looks like an old Sutton strain.

One on a dark sting recently no great shakes but the fish has put on 8lb and 9 ounces since we put it back in the lake last May after all the work we've done.

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   Old Thread  #550 12 May 2022 at 7.30am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No 50s jesus
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There have been 8 U.K. 40s reported to us today!! No 50s though 😲
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Well done Wayne, keep them coming fella! And CarlÖ..you have been on a very good roll recently!
Not sure why some of the photos have gone from below! Took me ages to bloody post them too 😂😂
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   Old Thread  #547 11 May 2022 at 8.55pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Iíve had some stunners lately including an old slate grey 35lb park lake mirror on the squid hookbaits.
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   Old Thread  #546 11 May 2022 at 8.18pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Had another fish on the dark sting over SLKÖÖ.not big but a dark scale perfect linearÖÖ.
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   Old Thread  #545 3 May 2022 at 9.33pm  4Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Underground angler; Greg Richardson with a nice upper 30lb caught on The Herb and matching hookbaits.
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Marc Cav... lost track of how many 40's this bloke has caught this year! He loves The Herb and Eton Mess!
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Glen M with a 61lb UK Mirror caught on The Herb and Sting!!

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A fifty year old Colne Valley 40lb that has been missing for three years, caught on The Herb and The Sting!!
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Still catching a few then mate! Well done indeed!! Feel free to share any pics. I still havenít had time to share any on here
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   Old Thread  #540 3 May 2022 at 8.00am  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Had a lovely 28-6 common on a dark sting pop up over the weekendÖÖ.
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   Old Thread  #538 23 Apr 2022 at 9.28am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers I'll get a tub of hard hookbaits 👍🏻
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   Old Thread  #537 23 Apr 2022 at 7.10am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All of the boilies are too soluble to safely use on the hair. Iím pretty sure you could use one on a rig but it would probably come off as you go to wind in.
Plenty of hookbait options for everyone.
I am out angling today and had a productive night with 7 fish so far up to 34lb (an incredible long wild looking common) and I have been playing around with different pop ups fished over Herb and pellets.
Deep c produced a few and the sting produced the better two! This is definitely a good time for bright hookbaits for me personally but I also know when not to have them out there. Matching food bait Wafters bottom baits or pop ups really come into their own in the summer.
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   Old Thread  #536 22 Apr 2022 at 10.24pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looking at the herb frozen, can I use them from the packet or is it best for the hard hookbait option?
Plus is it worth using a liquid attraction with them? Seen the herb, liver, and cal liquids they do
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   Old Thread  #535 22 Apr 2022 at 11.13am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only thing I have caught on the Sting is a Bream but then the Krill and Cal wafter 6ft away produced a decent carp for me. Only used them for 18hrs so happy with that as its a tricky water and it was -5įC at the time

Next trip out is late may so maybe a brighter bait will do the trick then
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   Old Thread  #534 20 Apr 2022 at 8.14pm  6Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Evening lads
Glad you love the sting! Such a cult following for the hookbaits now and some mega catch reports coming in.
If you follow our media you will have some huge huge carp landed again this week
Lost track of the 40s and 30s but nice to see the first 60 from the U.K. on the herb and sting!
Just stepped in so Iím off to make some late dinner!
Iíll post pics at some point when I get chance!
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   Old Thread  #533 20 Apr 2022 at 7.28pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They definitely work. Fish number 2 just went back. Wish I hadn't waited so long tbh!
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   Old Thread  #532 20 Apr 2022 at 7.10pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Been tempted to get some sting wafters myself.
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Long term lurker of this thread who finally bit the bullet and got some Sting dumbbell wafters. Well they arrived today and have just produced my second fish of the year within 30mins of casting in. Not bad Gav, not bad at all!
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   Old Thread  #530 14 Apr 2022 at 7.24am  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Had a nice 24-10 mirror last night on a dark sting pop up and 3 bait ultraplex stringerÖÖ.
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Yes we already have them!
Iíll get them on the site asap
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Even if they donít Iím sure Gav will supply one if you ask him 👍🏼
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   Old Thread  #527 13 Apr 2022 at 7.19pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Will you be bringing out a booster liquid for deep c ?
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Nice work lads
The deep c hookbaits have been very popularÖÖ..could even give the super squids a run for their money 😂
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   Old Thread  #525 13 Apr 2022 at 7.31am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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2 on squid dumbell wafters and 2 on round herb wafters

I was on booneys lake (spelling) in beds for a social. Bailiff said there were 6 fish out overnight and i had 4 of them. Never seen the place before but apparently that is really good going
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Still catching plenty Ian! Well done mate keep it up
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Evening lads, sorry for the late replies but once again itís been mental. You are welcome to collect but we are near Tring in Hertfordshire and the site is very secure with locked gates that we need to open to allow access. There is lots going our site and security is tight! We do let customers in if itís pre arranged so no problem there.
Herb shelf lifeís are the go to for many and the 3 hookbaits I canít fish without now are sting, squid and the deep c is gonna be a huge seller. We sold out this week already!! More batches coming over the long weekend.
I can answer some more questions when I get a chance over the weekend but thanks for the kind words againÖÖitís nice to hear such positivity about our products in a very turbulent world. Keep your eyes out for the catch reports in the next few weekÖÖ..some awesome captures coming in every day!!
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My last victim Herb bottom bait, Dark Sting popup, snowman rig with a five bait stringer and little dip of herb primer.

Edit: Yes a baitworks hoody because they're bloody warm.

19-6
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Had a 17lb mirror this morning on a dark sting pop up with a 3 bait herb stringerÖÖ..
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Well done fella .we're thay on the dumbell or 15mm wafters ?
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Herb. Sting, Super Squid and the 3rd 1 for me is Red Legend. Saying that the white Tricknut and PC1 are doing well for me at the moment
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   Old Thread  #518 12 Apr 2022 at 9.09am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I havent used tricknut but the herb is amazing. Sting, super squid or a peanut bait over the top

I had 4 fish last night on herb wafters and super squid over the top of herb shelflife

Wonderful bait
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That's a tough one to answer.
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Heard so many great things about handcraft ive to give them a go which food bait would people recommend first trick nut or the herb ( can only use shelf life atm as have no freezer space ). Also if you had to pick 3 hookbaits to try first what 3 would you pick ? They all look really good .


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Can bait be collected fresh from you, looked on Web site but didn't see address. Interested in trying herb.
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That's understandable Gav! Im glad its been so successful for you
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Goose, baits in the freezer? I have used frozen baits for 30 years and keeping them for 6 months has never been an issue for me.
Hard hookbaits are made from the same basemix and liquids (ours are anyway) but we elevate the levels slightly due to the fact they are harder, less soluble and dried out for an extra day! Fresh bait is always my priority but many people donít seem to care anymoreÖÖ..itís often all about the price!
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   Old Thread  #512 11 Apr 2022 at 9.19pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah it definitely comes across as an old school bait and does have the same sort of smell as the smokey mackerel and I like the fact its high in hydro's as this is something I used to do when I made my own and will be definitely putting in an order soon
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A few questions.
Can bait be collected from your premises and if so what's the address.
What do you feel if the freezer life of a quality food bait like herb before it looses some attraction.
Do hard hook bait have a different profile to the feed baits. Reason I ask this is a mate makes a very high quality food bait that I use fresh and don't keep it frozen for more than six weeks which isn't a problem as he is local and I could always get more at short notice but now he is rolling for a lot more people it's not so easy, this bait also breaks down fairly quickly and only stays on the hair for four to five hours but the hard hook baits will stay on for twelve so wonder if the fish can tetect a difference.
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Ask our mutual friend about his ribbon blender mate, that might suit?
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I donít remember the elite baits Smokey Mack but perhaps they were similar. As I said before, it was never designed to be or smell like anything else. We had several versions under test but this one was by far the best and also liked the most by the anglers involved. Marc cav was heavily involved with early tests and I donít think I will ever be able to give him another bait again!! We had a fish version, a curry type version and even a fruit but they just didnít seem to hit the mark like this one! This blend of flavours and heavy hydros is almost definitely unique (that I know of) and I just hope that they all stay available.
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   Old Thread  #508 11 Apr 2022 at 7.52pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I recieved some samples and yeah it definitely has the same aroma to them as the smokey mackerel by elite baits and once I clear a bit of space in the bait freezer I will defo be putting in an order
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I was going to tell everyone exactly what was in the herb recipe in the very beginning. But I have had a few things blatantly copied before and itís really put me off the complete listing of ingredients now. Iím not secretive in any way shape or form normally but the herb is different and it will shape my future so I have sort of kept a few things close to my chest. The flavours are all from our past and the reason that many of you know it is because you may well have sniffed some of them before.
Today I was told by one of the greatest anglers that has fished in the U.K. that the herb is something very special and itís a message that comes in daily now.
Itís about as old skool as you can imagine but with a few modern twists! I literally canít produce enough of it and I really need to upsize this year.
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   Old Thread  #506 11 Apr 2022 at 2.44pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What flavours go into the herb if you donít me asking? Any further info on its overall make up that isnít on the website? To me at least it has a simialr aroma to the elite baits Smokey mackerel I used about 20 years ago.
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   Old Thread  #505 11 Apr 2022 at 12.20pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think itís the similar spice / fish comboÖÖ.same as the source which has a similar smell IMOÖ..
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Yep that sting is certainly one to fall back on. Lots of captures on that pop up this weekend. I always remember one winter when I caught a crazy amount of 30 pound carp from 2 different waters and the sting always got me the bites! We have a new batch drying right now and many orders to get out this week.
The Herb and nash sting boiliesÖÖ many people seem to think that the herb is a similar bait to the sting spicy fishmeal from the 90s. I can assure you I never designed it to mimic anything at all, I just chose some old ingredients, some new ones, some spices and some old flavours that are still around today. The sting I used personally in the 90s was brown, and had a beautiful meat, liver, fenugreek, curry type smell. But my god did we haul on it!!
Sting essential oil in our pop ups is a very unique and nice smell, tastes awful but smells mega!! A favourite of many many anglers now
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Iím now well and truly sold on the sting for colder months. Gone are the times I carry a bait bucket full of pop ups around with me. Iíve fished 3 waters mainly days all through the winter and Iím yet to blank, nothing massive, fish to low 20ís but others around me have often struggled, all fish on the sting and itís been the most enjoyable winters fishing in a long time.

Btw I donít get the similarities with the herb at all.
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😂😂😂 the herb/sting combo
Itís amazing how people think that the herb is very similar to sting (itís not how I remember sting) but letís be honest that was one of the best nash produced
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Gav, call me when you release the HerbingÖÖ.
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TodayÖÖphew Iím glad itís over!
HerbÖÖ.it has such a cult following now and grows everyday. So glad you like it mate and I know itís a special one judging by what I see and hear. When I started handcraft I was worried that some of our ideas and inventions would never come to light but clearly they are the ones that people love. I donít know how many sting, squid or herb products went out of the door today but it was a lot! Always a good sign when you catch carp on a matching hookbaits wether itís a hard hooker or Wafters etc!
Now itís time for some dinner and a well earned pint!!
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   Old Thread  #499 4 Apr 2022 at 8.38am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Had two at the weekend just gone in the cold northerlies, Herb hard hooker with Dark sting pop-up fished on a snowman just keeps them coming for me, cast with either a Herb five bait stringer or five crushed in a PVA mesh bag, quick dip in the Herb Primer and voila, DEEP-C in brown sounds the one.

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   Old Thread  #498 3 Apr 2022 at 7.54pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Will be an order for the new pop ups from me and Phil very soon
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Glad they are serving you well!
They have kept us busy this year, we are working 6 days a week to keep up with it all but trust me, we are so pleased with the outcome. There is a lot of really nice feedback around the whole brand and the boilies are impossible to keep in stock. This week I have finally caught up on freezer baits (it wonít last) but the shelf lifeís are all getting real low again so Iím back in at 6 tomorrow. Busy busy! Some crackers caught this week on sting, squid and the deep c
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   Old Thread  #496 3 Apr 2022 at 6.09pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Will take a look. Haven't sent you it but the scaly in the March catch report was on a 12mm banoffee pop up. Also lost one on a sting wafter in the same session. Got so much confidence in your hookbaits now, can finally stop buying everything I see on offer and focus on fewer, quality hookbaits I trust
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   Old Thread  #495 3 Apr 2022 at 5.06pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Evening lads
Just to let you all know that the new pop ups went on sale this weekend and the booster shots have gone up too. Thanks for the pms and queries
Some mega catch reports gone up in the last week and we are full bore now. I will drop in from time to time and post some of the recent carp when I get ten minutes. Iím gonna get out and chase another large common this week if things go well!
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   Old Thread  #491 23 Mar 2022 at 8.06am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Go from bait to bots and block them off
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   Old Thread  #490 22 Mar 2022 at 8.32am  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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youve missed nothing, cause ive deleted it all...and i will continue to do so.

your thread, any other bait "debates" from outside of your thread will be deleted.

Roll on summer, when you lots all go fishing
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   Old Thread  #489 22 Mar 2022 at 8.29am  7Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not sure what I have missed here 😂
Just opened the forum to more personal messages from Mozzi, which I have Ignored again
Iím a little bit bored of all the nonsense so Iím gonna be taking a bit of a break from here. We are very busy and have been since January so if you need to get hold of me then contact us personally at work. I will reply to you guys who have been asking me questions and letís hope we come back at a different time.
Once last thing
ModsÖÖ.constant pms and hounding people (I have seen the messages) is not on in my eyes. Repeatedly attacking other brands also not on! Yet you let this go on.
Spring is here boys and the carp are coming out en masse! Check out our socials for a crazy amount of big carp being caught.
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   Old Thread  #487 22 Mar 2022 at 7.49am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apologies for my part mate but I wonít have it.
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Yet another bait thread ive had to tidy up
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   Old Thread  #484 21 Mar 2022 at 11.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When are the booster flavours due out?
Gonna place an order but want to get everything in one hit
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   Old Thread  #482 21 Mar 2022 at 9.19pm  6Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mozzi this is getting tiresome now. This is a Handcraft Baits thread, not a Mozzi dissect Gavs business thread. If you want to know the ins and outs speak directly to Gav. For me it is really bad form for you to keep questioning another persons business on an open forum.
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Like everything it will be going up a bit in the next few weeks as we are getting hammered on all ingredients, packaging at the moment.
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   Old Thread  #477 21 Mar 2022 at 2.15pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm getting them blank and pimping them myself but they are great quality
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Thats bloody cheap for the flavoured pellets
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   Old Thread  #475 21 Mar 2022 at 9.55am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£12.99 for 5kg bud
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brilliant is it £12.99 for 2kg
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I will get them added. Been a ridiculous week and the next one looks the same.
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   Old Thread  #472 20 Mar 2022 at 1.08pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When will you be doing tricknut flavoured pellets
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Another carp on the samples!! Well done indeed sir !!
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I bought a sample pack a few weeks ago and used them on a short day session today on one of my club waters. Managed 3 in 7 hours, with both rods in the same area and one on the sample baits vs. my usual offerings. All came to the Handcraft rod. Needless to say, I'll be putting in an order!
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We have something coming out very soon Ian that you may well like. Itís an interesting idea and one that I have never seen done before. Certainly the type of hookbait I want to cast out. Keep em peeled 😉😉
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   Old Thread  #468 21 Feb 2022 at 9.16pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lovely job, cheers. And will definitely keep you updated re. results and catches 🎣👍😁
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You are welcome mate
Parcel has gone, let me know how you get on with the basemix and hookbaits
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   Old Thread  #466 21 Feb 2022 at 11.48am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers Gav, good to chat again. Looking forward to trying out some of those potted pop-ups!
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   Old Thread  #465 19 Feb 2022 at 2.19pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
There spot on, Proper leakage as pop ups should be.
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It's smells awesome,and the 12mm pop up is still popped up.I wonder if you can get the pop up mix in tablet form,be better than viagra
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   Old Thread  #463 19 Feb 2022 at 9.52am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did someone say dark stingÖÖ..
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   Old Thread  #462 18 Feb 2022 at 10.22pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Put me down for 12mm pop ups and some 15mm wafters in the new one
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You can leave it in that glass forever mate 😂😂
Today I sat and potted up literally hundreds of dark sting, squid, almond and sting! I donít want to see another 12mm pop up 🤪🤪🤪
The new ones are starting to take shape 😉😉
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   Old Thread  #460 18 Feb 2022 at 12.49pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So true about the rigs,I went back to a simple dark matter braid rig a couple of years back.I was on a supposedly tricky little water and had great results.I can't wait try these baits out,that dark sting looks a winner.I have a 12mm pop up on a ronnie in a glass and its been in there for nearly 48hrs and no sign of it sinking yet
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   Old Thread  #459 18 Feb 2022 at 8.35am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Early results on the Sting have done me well Gav I had a few over Christmas on these first time out with them, only the Dark sting for me though.

I'd love to see a deep red fish meal hook bait bait on a Plum, Cranberry & black pepper (my all time favorite combo) Most of the time these days I prefer to fish with dark colored hook baits or more natural tones, a bright one has its time and place and fished them plenty over the years, yellow pineapple stood out for me for a good few years but the last few when it seems most anglers are putting out a bright one or washed out version of it I have been going back to the muted colors and finding better results again even going back to old rigs I used moons ago over the Mr T type rigs we get sucked into, we all get caught up in it, the fish and fishing hasn't changed, we have.
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   Old Thread  #458 18 Feb 2022 at 8.24am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Couldn't agree more re. singles! Look at how deadly a single tiger nut is!
Also, on shallow lakes with swans a darker single is a great method
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Evening Ian,
Itís a common fact that very few people have the balls to cast out one single pop up or wafter! It is a deadly tactic at times and it is one that I have spent a huge amount of time sitting behind. I can remember a spring at Hyde lane when bites were very hard to come by and bait was going in aplenty. I fished 3 rods on singles, a yellow, a greenish one and an orange tutti.
The single yellow (now known as sting) was by far the best one for whatever reason. Tutti was second and the greenish one produced nothing!!
For about two months I was very successful doing my Friday nights. But then we hit the summer and everyone cottoned onto my methods and the bites really slowed down.
Iím so confident with that sting sat out there on its own! It worked well for me at welly too during tough spells.
If I know that single is in the right place Iím happy to leave them for 2 days.
If you donít have that confidence then re Chuck them as you see fit!!
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I know location is the key and being on fish is our bible but one of my first trips out with Gavs Krill and Cal cork balls last spring on a 50 acre pit with limited bank access, which is eleven swims, add to that the fish rarely visit the margins only at certain times of the year, anyway I had been looking for over two hours arriving on a Friday afternoon I had about an hour of light left to get the rods out with nothing to go on and with nothing showing so I decided to drop in one of the longer range swims fishing across to a no fishing bank in a gully that they are known to travel along.
To get out to the gully it is waders on out to waist high about 30 yards out then a chuck of 130 yards to get in the gully I placed one rod in there single cork ball K&C bait no other bait around it as the gulls and swans are all over you as its just in their range when they tip up, placed the other two rods on clear areas with a bit of bait around them at shorter range, camp up and settled in had a show over the shorter rod to the left after ten minutes and that was it, just into darkness the single bait rattled off after probably two hours in the water and over the next few hours it rattled of twice more didn't even change the bait, I had three fish on that rod in about six hours, single pop up nothing else and had in six hours what a lot of anglers catch in a season on that particular lake.

HAVE FAITH IN THE SINGLES
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   Old Thread  #455 17 Feb 2022 at 2.12pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
That Common I put up in the Feb Catch Reports was on Gav's gear, you won't go wrong with it
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I will never make a guarantee that you will definitely catch a carpÖÖbut Iím quietly confident you will do just fine on them. They are starting to appear everywhere at the moment and we are blessed with some mega catch reports. I always appreciate your feedback buddy!
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Honestly mate, don't worry, i'm just one bod piping up. More than anything, I've been reliant on smelly things as there's not much to go on carp wise where I'm fishing. Going by what others have said, these hookbaits are more than effective.

Every time I use one of the Sting, I keep thinking, what is that? i'm sure I'll catch one of these illusive carp on one
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   Old Thread  #452 16 Feb 2022 at 8.02pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im not sure that you need to change anything tbh. Certainly leave the squid and the herb well alone!!
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We worked pretty hard to find the right levels of certain flavours
We can always add more with that mix but Iím always worried of being too strong!
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Scent from hell is crab isnít it?
Due to its makeup that will stink! We will be working with some right stinky things this summer but as stated below, too much of certain things are bad!
Tiger nutsÖÖ..they donít smell of anything at all
Sweetcorn no smell at all
Iím really into fishmeal based pop ups and Wafters this year already. The low level attraction and natural pulling power of the core ingredients can be the one when the stinky pineapples are blown. I think we all need to work out which way is best on each water. One last little thing, if you really wanted to pep up a hookbait for whatever reason there is no problem bringing out some little boosters shots like the other brands do. For those who need it itís an option
Squid goo is popular 😉
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   Old Thread  #449 16 Feb 2022 at 6.43pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd run with that

I will say this though, the venue I'm fishing hasn't got a lot in it and it's big, so a bait that pongs for me on the phycological front and this time of year could help out, the opposite as I've suggested on smaller waters with a bigger head of fish plus angling pressure could more than likely be detrimental. I totally take your points on board
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   Old Thread  #448 16 Feb 2022 at 6.16pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I like the handcraft stuff specifically because it isnt overpowering

You cant detect soluble amino acids, they can.

I think it was john baker who said that a dogs sense of smell is hundreds of times as sensitive as ours and a carps is hundreds of times more sensitive than a dogs. I know it isnt quite that simple but imagine scent from hell but times a thousand?

Next time you find a bloodworm or a water snail, crack it open in give it a sniff. I bet you cant really smell it, but the carp can detect it before it has been broken with no issue

A baits smell catches the angler far more than the fish
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   Old Thread  #447 16 Feb 2022 at 5.33pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah, it was something that it noticed last weekend. I did crack one open and found that there was smell still in the bait, but compared to a rod with The Scent from Hell, the difference was night and day. I didn't crack open the Scent from Hell as it was as minging as it went out; can't remember if I dosed the Baitworks pop up with smell, like glug them months back.

It's one of those things, I mean like, some places where the fish are very nervous around highly pongy baits, they could easily spook, and a bait that doesn't waft loads can be a good thing, also, using corn in free offerings, the colour is bang on and can hide the hookbiat very well.

I don't know, maybe later on in the year a hookbait that doesn't scream "eat me" is the one, just that i'd rather a hookbait that does the opposite this time of the year.
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   Old Thread  #446 16 Feb 2022 at 1.36pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the (in my opinion) four most potent carp attractors going are actually subtle as hell, alas, many others not lol
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Completely agree, carp can find minute traces of food in parts per million of water so our nose is almost useless. But carp anglers want things to stink whereas I want things to be attractive after 24 hours but not repellant. Gary Bayes calls them carp scarers 😂😂😂
The trick here is powders and liquids, a combo of both that ďsmellĒ and ďtasteĒ is the best of both worlds for me.
Eaton mess is subtle, squid subtle, krill and cal also subtle but they have lots going inside them.
I also like the fact that you guys can cover them in whatever you want and they still work perfectly.
Rock hard pop ups with no ingress is not for me
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Iíve said the same on the bait groups, to me ďsmells the same as when it went out ď isnít a plus point!

See we do agree on things lol
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im surprised by that but can i ask if you took the pop up off and cracked it in half to see what the inside smelt and tasted like? surely you want all of those nice things to be leaking out in the water column rather than locked inside. You will notice that all of our hookbaits are liquid hungry and they absorb anything you put on them.......... lake water will also be taken on to a degree. good news is that the catch reports on sting suggest the carp have no trouble finding them!
probably my favourite pop up of all time
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   Old Thread  #442 16 Feb 2022 at 12.26pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Looks good....maybe something to try in the future..
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I find the Sting smell lasts a night, after that...zero smell. Not seen how long the smell takes to leak out on an hour to hour basis; will check.
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It's good to be busy
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I will be making yet more basemix this week! Never ends at the moment 😂😂
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Bait arrived all spot on and will sort the 12mm Herb when you have it ready
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Superb service as always,thanks very much
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Itís gone out today and will arrive tomorrow mate!
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Bait ordered,can't wait to get out to try it which due to work won't be until first weekend of march for 2 nights.
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I wonít post all the pictures on here as it will take me hours but the last few weeks has seen a crazy amount of carp caught! We are already working at full speed like itís summer so if I canít reply straight away to the pms I apologise
Iíll get back to you as soon as I can! Super squid, sting, Eton mess and the three boilies are scoring well right now
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   Old Thread  #433 9 Feb 2022 at 11.04am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Krill & Cal served me well spring last year throughout April/May odd one on Eton mess and Pineapple then stopped fishing there after spawning as the weed is top to bottom all over lake by then add in it is shallow and birdlife is off the chart captures become difficult throughout summer months for all, Sting (dark) and Herb hard hooker snowman have done me proud through the winter and one or two over the tricknut on a tricknut wafter hookbait, I haven't even tried the Red Legends or Squids yet still got full tins of them.
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Sorry for the late reply
Crazy busy times for me right now.
The ones that we sell the most and the ones that we get the greatest feedback are on sting, squid, krill and cal,
However the red legend, and pineapple ones are popular too!
They all have produced some good fish and all sell well at times but the above are very very good catchers for sure
The ones we are playing with right now are gonna be special. Now we are a bit more settled we can have a real good tinker 😉
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   Old Thread  #431 8 Feb 2022 at 9.59pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For me the Sting has been doing the biz on the few sessions I've had this winter
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Hi, any plans to do bait toppers a similar size to the Mainline ones?
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   Old Thread  #429 8 Feb 2022 at 6.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Super squid 🐙
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Krill and Cal + Red Legend
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   Old Thread  #427 8 Feb 2022 at 11.23am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Sting or Super Squid have done well for me. The 12†mm versions are very buoyant for their size.
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   Old Thread  #426 8 Feb 2022 at 8.30am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sting, Super Squid, Red Legend and Krill and Cal for me. I know you only asked for a couple but I couldn't decide
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   Old Thread  #425 7 Feb 2022 at 10.34pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Eton Mess & Sting for my money
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   Old Thread  #424 7 Feb 2022 at 10.30pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Which pop up in the range would you say is the best catcher mate ? Are there any that stand out from catch reports ? I want to order a couple of tubs but canít decide 😂
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Very nice indeed sir!! Old skool classic
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100%
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   Old Thread  #421 7 Feb 2022 at 6.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Had a nice 40 on one of those a few weeks back
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One of pidges combos, when I tub up the Wafters and pop ups it fills the room with a lovely strawberry creamy smell! Been some nice ones out on the Eton mess this weekend!! Nothing huge but plenty of bites!
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   Old Thread  #419 7 Feb 2022 at 12.32pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The Eton Mess samples you gave me tasted and smelled so good, I ate them myself!
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A sample carp!! We like them 😂😂😂 I have had a few carp caught on our samples now and I often forget that people might actually use them. Well done indeed sir
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   Old Thread  #417 6 Feb 2022 at 5.45pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
First session of the year due to work and brought the samples Gav sent with meÖÖ.stuck on a snowman of 18mm ultraplex / 12mm sting and fished it to a reedbed on its own in a small shallow bayÖÖ.30 mins later a stockie 10lb mirrorÖÖ.
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Itís no problem lads, it was just a mistaken date and time. Lots of anglers change bait more than I change my underwear!
I change it daily if anyone is asking 😂
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   Old Thread  #415 6 Feb 2022 at 9.14am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Didn't you make the same comment on the Facebook page,which caused the angler to explain himself to you.I don't see why he bothered to be honest as it's non of your business.
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   Old Thread  #414 5 Feb 2022 at 11.12pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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comments deleted, nice barbel
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   Old Thread  #413 5 Feb 2022 at 10.45pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I caught a double figure Barble from the Nene last year on a Ronnie rig pop up I obviously wasnít targeting Barble
Was a bit of a surprise though
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That is an old fish, from one of the other baits I worked on before. Jason is an incredibly good river angler and carp angler. Really nice chap too!
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   Old Thread  #411 4 Feb 2022 at 3.54pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No he didn't, the 18 is from 2020, read his reply on Facebook.
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Thatís the chap who caught an 18 on another bait a couple of weeks ago isnít it ? Thames barbel were never that fussy , any decent bait was acceptable in the right place, not least a method feeder with a big lump of Garlic Spam .
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Just posted another double from the Thames today! If the herb fails as a carp bait it will certainly make it as a good barbel bait 😂
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It was special wasnít it.
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L030 😍
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. Years back using John bakers base mixes as paste as a wrap or hookbait was effective and probably what you newer barbel anglers are still doing? Except maybe I used river water or LO30 not eggs,and wrapping around a few hookers from a single egg mix.
The very best barbel/chub/ river carp bait I ever used by a country mile was CC Moore Ocean HNV paste mixed with LO30 ,no eggs. This was in the 90ís on The Thames , never saw another barbel angler.
Egg powder with either river/lake water or hydros opens up huge variation possibilities.
I take large amounts to France on the rivers , feed paste and fish a skinned hookbait over the top. The leak off speeds up bite times in my view. With eggs that would be complicated.
Or go to the Thames with a kilo of powder and mix it up as needed, just a few hookers needed.
So looking forward to your base mixes being available, I am sure they will be a winner like the rest of your range .
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Barbel love scopex 😉
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Was speaking in support of your dogs liking liver comment actually

Agree with the barbel sentiment too, they're cyprinids and Im convinced that an inherently good carp bait is effective for barbel and vise versa. I've noticed a lot of people using milk protein heavy mixes with sweeteners for barbel instead of the meaty fishmeal type baits we're always told they show a preference for, I think this is a demonstration of a wide variety of feed and investigative triggers co-existing between them.

Never caught a barbel on a pop up though, which I think its more down to how they feed
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We only ever make things with fresh eggs, and the paste kits will be easy to use with an egg but I see no reasons why you couldnít add egg alb if you so wished! Itís more for those barbel anglers who have seen huge and dramatic differences in the rivers with paste wrapped hookbaits. I am adamant we should be listening to these lads and doing similar things for the carp where possible
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Mozzi take a day off 😂
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The "nut bait" we've been testing is currently sat nicely at 6% liver in symbiosis with another product, No nut bait should be without it (Y)

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Would you consider supplying base mix etc but with egg powder added so only water needed ? Baitworks do it and I have dabbled myself. Very convenient.
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All jokes aside it is because of the liver content
My dog always heads for the liver based baits in our unit!!
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The dog is always my first test of a bait

Mine is too and loves the TN.......
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Glad you like it fella
Very very popular bait that one already so use with confidence
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The dog is always my first test of a bait. Heís fighting to get past me to get at Gavs stuff
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Thanks Gav
50kg of Tricknut ordered on Monday afternoon and its here Wednesday morning. Plus a little bonus thrown in as well Top man.
That smell and taste is something else. If the carp like it as much as my dog............................

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We have a few things coming up this year for the home roller. Some nice flavours that are not available to the public, additives etc so maybe the sting can be one of them too!!
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In future do you plan to sell the sting falvour as an addtive for home rollers.
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We will be offering paste kits (the basemix and liquids)
You just need to add eggs!
Red fish smelt, looked and tasted very different to me but they do contain some of the same fishmeals, minerals etc.
all the contents are very different with the herb. I did love red fish pro, such a clever blend of very good meals. It was a very popular bait when I worked there and Iím sure it still is for them. Very few baits have those levels of good stuff in them! They are sitting on some incredibly good products
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Thanks Gav. Arrived today, very efficient! Has a similar smell to the RFP, a sort of baby bio smell, maybe a kelp liquid? Does appear to be richer in colour than the RFP. Ill give it a go when I need some bait.

If I wanted to make my own hookbaits would you do base mix and liquid?
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Similar in appearance but thatís about it
Different Ingredients, herbs, garlic, fenugreek, different hydros and 3 times the amount. Judging by the amount we sold and the catch reports Iím sure you will absolutely love this. Itís struck a big note that bait! And I have done ok on it this year 😉
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Ordered some samples today out of curiosity. I used Blakeís Red Fish Pro for a couple of seasons and liked it a lot, be interested to compare it to The Herb.
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I bloody hate putting units back to ďhow wasĒ lol, pro tip pack the kettle away last haha
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Let us hope it continues! Couriers are a bit iffy at the moment and they make me nervous. They donít often cock up on a tin of hookbaitsÖÖÖ20k or freezer baitÖ..thatís a different story! To be fair to them they have been pretty efficient considering how many staff are off with Covid!
Glad you liked it all and I am working full bore at the moment to prepare for spring. Just moved into yet another bigger workshop, painting the existing one, ordering ingredients and sorting packaging. I honestly expected to be sat at home watching loose women or Jez Kyle in January but it has been a busy old winter so far!
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The level of service from Handcraft is superb,I emailed yesterday and had a reply straight away.My mate ordered 3 tins of wafters after 4pm yesterday,he's just text me a picture of his baits.I don't think he can quite believe how quickly they have arrived,our order for boilies will be in very very soon.Excellent service,very impressed
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Got ya
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Weve absolutely petrol bombed Gavs sponsor thread so Iíll shut up now lol
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Sure thing 👍

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well, protein isn't as black and white as the percentage in a bait the source and form is also important.

Broadly speaking yes, low protein baits will avoid excess protein effecting the water quality however, you aren't really doing the carp a disservice by providing a nutrient rich option.

The advice for fish keeping is on the assumption of that food you introduce forming the main diet for the fish, its also taking into account water quality for a much high level of carp biomass.


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Hi Mozzi,

I've always run with the thinking that it's better to lower the protein levels in a bait come winter, which, depending on the amount of nut = protein in a bait due to keeping fish myself and the general thinking/consensus and recommendations from fish food manufacturers as the colder months/winter sets in.

I've always kept in mind my fish keeping thinking and gone with a lower protein based bait. One bait that I always found did well in the winter is Richworth tutti frutti.
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Yes the feedback so far is mega! I hope it doesnít let you all down!
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Really like the nut bait. Think itís going to have a great year
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I've banged on about nut baits not being brilliant for winter for a long time, but people insist on them.

The one we've been developing is low fat, and about as close to HNV as you can get with a nut based but BUT my preference would always be a well formulated combination bait like what you've mentioned.

However its a consumers market, I'll be shocked if your nut bait doesn't end up accounting for at least 50% of your sales once established.

Years ago I made what I thought was as close to perfection as boiled baits got, however field testers didn't like it until it was a certain colour
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Probably bad angling, not the bait, but the bait is normally the first thing to blame.

So many good baits around, ready made wise, the people casting them out would not know the PH of said bait.
Unless you have an inner Tim Paisley

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Always used to be a bird food bait in the winter used to use hutchys red or yellow seed or when finances allowed his protein mixrvite 👍
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Baits that failÖÖcould be a number of things, excess flavours, lack of aminos, to high in certain things.
Carp will pick up most things once but thatís not good enough long term.
Citric acid is a repellent if you overdose
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when some baits fail dismally could it be down to PH, thanks.
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That's very enlightening. I for one did not realise there were production issues with using eggshells, I assumed they were just chucked in a blender then added to the mix.
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There seems to be general feeling that nut based boilies are good in winter but i personally have never found this to be completely accurate.My winter results have always been much better with fish/bird/milk boilies and itís the winter when I do the majority of my angling. However any bait which is over applied at the time of the year when carp can take or leave food is going to end up sitting on the lakebed for the tufties!
Making a nut bait that works in the depths of winter, I focussed more on the other ingredients that I know will still be consumed in temps below 7/8 degrees. I have been impressed with the early catch reports on tricknut but if you follow us on social media you will see that Nutriplex is a consistent cold water producer.
Making a good winter bait is very difficult. I always used to revert to maggot fishing in winter but they are banned on many waters now which actually did me a favour. Like I said before I havenít caught a carp on a maggot hookbait since 2016 and Iím at a place now where Iím so confident with the tactics in winter that Iím not sure if I will need to change it.
Minimum feed maximum attraction in winter
In SummerÖÖÖ..feed them and they will come 😂
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My personal opinion is apart from the crunch I don't think they notice it. but at 4 quid a sack its less of a ball ache to get crunch than egg shell, which considering a lot of uk eggs are dipped in a shell detergent, need to be washed and ideally oven dried to destroy the membrane also.

I think for enough coarse nut product to cause buoyancy issues you'd be looking at it not being able to be rolled. I've experimented and the upper limits can be quite high with certain nuts
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But do the carp like it?

Its like a lot of ingredients, we can go on about amino context, availability, etc,etc, but if the fish like eating it why wouldnít you use it?
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Fat and oil content with nut baits pose many problems, various levels of nut product buoyancy from batch to batch, rolling issues due to nut pieces, and slowing up attractor leakage if too much in the end product.

But it is a learning curve and a compromise for all of us.
Many lines of thought are better than one

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And ironically probably the best nut bait ingredient of recent years is fluffy and with no lumps 😂

I get what you mean with the texture, and with the weight, this is one of my concerns with adding too much but, the buoyancy of the ingredient has a lot to do with the fat content which Iíve always tried to keep low in a bait, Iíve found if you go beyond 20% with these less used nut products ( although theyíre used by a few companies ). Then it starts to lock the bait up, as well as dictates a very low fat content to any subsequent ingredients, I think youíll get away with it more them being chunky though, the same volumes in a fine grind could cause havoc lol.


In response to peopleís assumption about intestinal transit, many many ďfine powdersĒ as youíd see them are actually chock full of fibre, along with the chunky nature of the ingredients in this bait I just donít think it would be necessary, itís unique selling point as gaz has mentioned is weight, it can ďsettle downĒ. Some of the fussier mixes.

And lastly to the bloke who likes bread crumb, different kettle of fish in a bait. Yes pure bread crumb makes them go potty at times but not when locked up in a bait, it just makes said bait cheaper to roll as breadcrumb is about 11 quid a sack
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I have long thought that there may be a secondary benefit of using oyster shell in baits, namely pH buffering of the bait. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the chemistry to be positive about this, or to explain it in a meaningful way. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Nice to see someone asking questions and getting answers in a way that isnít slagging each other off. See we do all get on with each other on here
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For those of you who havenít had the Tricknut bait in your hands yet, donít judge too harshly or quickly on itís possible negative aspects.

Having used numerous nut baits in the past, when I was lucky enough to get a pre-release sample (after hounding Gav for ages 🤣 the wait was worth it. It is light and shade in comparison to all the others I have tried, texture, smell, taste - it has it all and is what you imagine a nut bait SHOULD be like.

I know this is from a human perspective in all aspects and that people will always doubt what they havenít yet witnessed personally, but see it and then form your own opinions.
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Itís perfectly ok to say your piece mate thatís what the forum is for!
Iím sure we could pick the bones out of nearly all ingredients if we tried.
My perspective has always been that every ingredient must serve a purpose. One of my other Ingredients comes with pieces of crab, shell, and all sorts of weird and wonderful visible in it. Having fished and caught carp excreting big chunks of zebra mussels I am ok with a few coarse nuts and shell in the baits. Glad you liked the rest of it!! Very popular bait this year I think.
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Nice replyís from both

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In respect of your nut bait which really peaked my interest as I love a nut based bait and your list of ingredients like brazil's etc seems like the one. I'd say the same of Willmott's bait, I think shell is an unnecessary ingredient and wouldn't and will not buy Willmott's bait because of it.

Just so we're clear, I'm in no way having a sly dig in any regard. I respect what you're doing and I'm in no way trying to undermine anything that you're doing, and I mean that in all sincerity.

Yeah, you're correct, your bait is for fish and not for people, that aside, from my very own perspective, I'm of the opinion that I'd rather have breadcrumb - which carp love - over shell anyday. It certainly could be argued that shell adds to a fish's needs in some way, which may or not be true, be that as it may, I'd possite that if you fished with a bait without shell and with good ingredients, there would be hardly any noticeable, or if any differences in catch rates or negative effects on carp that are eating the bait.

I hope it comes across that in respect to shell, these are my own personal preferences and not aimed in any way, shape or form to discredit anyone - notice I added Willmott in as he's highly regarded and well respected.
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Itís very simpleÖ..Brazil, cashews, coconut and other ingredients in that bait are very light, so itís in there to add weight. Also, letís remember on a daily basis carp eat zebra mussels, snails, tiger nuts, pea mussels and god know what else that is hard and crunchy!
Your average nut bait is a smooth pale base of soy semo bread maize with the odd bit of tiger nut flour and I wanted tricknut to be as far away from those baits as possible. You can see that from the outside. Never once did I think that it might offend a human who wanted to eat the boilieÖÖ.I just thought about what a carp might want
There is shell in the herb and look what that bait has done in 6 months!
Nothing in any of my baits is just thrown in for no reason. Tricknut is a coarse blend of real human grade nuts, milks, birdfood, peanut proteins and vitamins. There is also a few elements to it that I know is very different to 99 percent of nut baits out there but I want to keep that under my hat for now. I simply wonít copy another scopex maple cream cheap bait.
Tricknut could have been the first bait I launched but itís taken the longest to find the bits I needed. If you donít like the feel of a nut boilie in your mouth well Iím sorry but I was more thinking about what the carp like to chew on! Personally it tastes and feels perfect to me

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Oyster shell grit is probably in there, along with other ingredients to add a bit of heavy fibre, help the bait to be easy to crush and break up by the carps teeth on the way through.

For absorption in the digestive tract I would have thought that something finer, like limestone flour would be better as a calcium supplement.

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Gavs one to put a lot of time and effort in a bait and I donít think for one minute itís just in there for the sake of it. If itís of no benefit to the carp or to help stop the bait float it wouldnít be in there I'm sure.
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Some people believe it adds to the calcium content of the bait, however given the gut transit time of carp I think this is dubious at best. It adds weight to a boiled bait which may be of benefit in some circumstances, I.e . using a throwing stick or in flowing water.. Some people believe carp are attracted by the crunching sound it creates when carp eat as in when they are feeding upon snails. I think this is the most likely and only reason for putting it in. However I think leaving the eggshell in would probably have the same effect. Which many bait makers do. On the other hand it does make life easier and you don't then have to dispose of the eggshells. So I suppose it depends which theory you adhere to.
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Calcium too. I hate spodding so appreciate it for a bit of mass with the stick or catapult.

Edit..Just read a paper (skim read) by a Yoshimitsu San in Japan. Apparently carp get the bulk of their Calcium through their gills not their diet.
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It helps bait that may contain light Ingrediants like certain milk products. Also aids leakage in a bait being so course.
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Why put it in there in the first place I donít believe it adds anything to a bait and donít comment on its a crunchy thing that carp like
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Thatís fine, not every ingredient in every single bait is going to please everyone! The good news is there is only a tiny amount of oyster shell in there and it is in there for good reason. You will see it is in most fishmeals, Birdfoods and other baits. Just not good for our teeth!!
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Not too keen on the grit in that nut bait.
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A little bit of both! Nutriplex is only made in freezer bait but herb and tricknut are made both fresh and shelf life!
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Gav, are the samples your sending out with orders freezerbait or shelfies please ?
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Im just going to stick to nutriplex and the herb, and super squid and the sting and peanut praline and almond wafters

Sinple really!
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The fruit smell is plum and a fruit palatant, you know it as fruit factor 6 but I know it by its original name!
Very yeasty bait that Nutriplex and it is quite possibly the best all year round bait! I admit it is a tricky thing to pick out which bait is best but Iíll leave that decision to you guys. All have a good following now!
Glad your samples arrived!!
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just received a sample pack in the post, very impressed with both the Nutriplex (still debating what the fruit smell in it is lol) and the Herb (proper fishmeal)
Defiantly have to try them out
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Why donít you sell a pit of three sizes and call it a hatrick? 👀
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There is a tricknut barrel? Made from real tricknut basemix? Might be a close match for you
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Any chance of a barrel peanut praline wafter?
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Because there is no food ingredient that withstands the same manufacturing pressures and has the same specific gravity, and genuine curious
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Evening lads
Wow what a busy few days it has been. I always feel knackered that first week back after living in my pyjamas and underpants on the sofa for 10 days over Xmas😂😂
I am always open and honest about our baits but there are several things that must stay behind our closed doors for various reasons.
Our Hookbait technology is not something that belongs to me personally so I wonít comment but I just want to say itís safe, edible and used in many things we all handle every day.
I am very pleased with those pop ups and Wafters we sell and it is an area of bait making I focus on heavily.
Thanks again for all of nice feedbackÖÖ.the phone is full on at times. I hear that many other companies are having a good winter on bait sales so thatís a major positive during a time when many companies go under!
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   Old Thread  #341 5 Jan 2022 at 6.17pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They could hold up a house
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   Old Thread  #340 5 Jan 2022 at 5.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Genuine question, why are you asking a fellow bait maker what his bait contains on an open forum? I donít know the answer but I can hazard a very good guess. What I do know is that they are bloody good and do exactly what they are supposed to do😎
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   Old Thread  #339 5 Jan 2022 at 3.07pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But does it not contain the spheres then?
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   Old Thread  #338 5 Jan 2022 at 7.45am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Makes your poo float 😂
You shouldnít really eat any fish bait or hookbaits as I dread to think where itís all been. Iíll make an exception on the nut bait. I literally like the taste of the tricknut freezer bait.
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   Old Thread  #337 5 Jan 2022 at 7.43am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím pretty sure they donít as people have been eating the buggers, and that includes Gav😂 especially the Peanut Pralines.
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Well done on your fish. Nice to see the herb has continued to produce in the winter. I must admit that I have personally kept it on at least one rod this winter and that was simply to see if it honestly does work in the cold. I had doubts that maybe it was too heavy on the fishmeal front but judging by my results and those of the customers it still seems to work.
My last few big fish have fallen to either herb Wafters over crumb or super squid and Nutriplex Wafters.
One of may lads landed 4 fish in a night fishing over 4kg of whole boilies at the weekend and then ran out of bait!!
Crazy weather last week!!!
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   Old Thread  #335 5 Jan 2022 at 0.46am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Are you telling me you're mixes contain no spheres?
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   Old Thread  #334 4 Jan 2022 at 10.58pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was told mark did the mix you did the flavours and additives? If Iím wrong Iím wrong
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Hello Kev, hope you are well buddy. Good old forum, the place for myths and facts 😂😂
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   Old Thread  #332 4 Jan 2022 at 9.27pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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With regards to: I believe you work with mark and thus have struck gold ďas he did proper jobs mixĒ, without him, its a different ball game.

Mark is a good mate of mine! The first time we met, we struck it off big-time and we fished together for many years. As for pop up mixes, to give credit where credit is due, Mark helped me out with some pop up ingredients. However, as for your claims that ďMark did my mixesĒ this claim is simply not true.
Mark knows a little about the makeup of my mixes but neither of us know the exact makeup of the others mixes (and thatís a fact).
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   Old Thread  #331 4 Jan 2022 at 9.14pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So do you use something buoyant whose name starts with an E or has there come some new stuff the last few years?
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AbsolutelyÖÖ.and they are very popular!
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Mozzi, I think you have completely misunderstood everything here. Iím not saying in any way cork is bad! We use cork, everyone uses cork in Wafters and cork balls etc. itís a way of making things float! Iím a huge fan of food in my hookbaits via cork, or whatever means necessary as I rely heavily on hookbait attraction a lot of the time.
You refer to air ball mixesÖÖ.the air ball mixes you are thinking of are so old and obsolete that we have never used them. They are not buoyant enough to be combined with anything and still float.
Pop up technology has moved on and Pidge is the man behind it. What looks like your old air ball mix is now something made out of edible items. Fishmeal, Milks, glm, fruit palatants all can now be used but you are left with something very edible and attractive.
The fact we can make Hookbaits containing heavy hydros, is game changing but the biggest factor of all is that they are user friendlyÖÖ.andÖÖ..you can add whatever liquids you want (if you so wish) which I think anglers really like (goo, minamino, sprays etc).
Some people wonít use corkballs, some hate air ball mixes, some canít bring themselves to cast out a bottom bait!! I try to look at the overall picture and listen to what anglers want.
Making 12mm ultra buoyant pop ups is an artÖÖ.making them out of real food can only be done by a handful of people in the U.K.
A hookbait made out of fishmeal, liver, garlic etc will always catch loads of carp but letís not forget that attraction comes from solids, liquids, essential oils, and other forms. Harnessing it all into a ball thatís easy to use is the tricky bit!
You all have to cast out what makes you confident.
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   Old Thread  #328 4 Jan 2022 at 8.12pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gavin uses corkballs for ďfood baitĒ pop upsÖÖ.
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   Old Thread  #327 4 Jan 2022 at 7.46pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well no.....specialised use cork and real food and there catch reports are stunning.

What I mean by attractors is the often dense, nutrient rich ingredients with levels of solubility to work properly.I'm not a huge believer in artificial flavours hence its more difficult to cram "real food" in.

I believe you work with mark and thus have struck gold as he did proper jobs mix, without him, its a different ball game.

My preference has always been super soluble pop ups, usuall paste around a corkball and meshed, you cannot get the same extraction of real food particles and signals from airball mixes, it would be immoral.

But as I alluded earlier it depends, I personally view bright pop ups as more of a lure
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I was trying to ask if people are happy to adjust pop ups. And if that is common practice? Most waters contain nuisance species, crayfish etc and having to drill out and open up the texture is a recipe for disaster. And drilling 12mm pop upsÖÖ..that is gonna be hard work with such a low diameter
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   Old Thread  #325 4 Jan 2022 at 6.07pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Then just make that point then rather than asking a question regarding what other bait companies are doing. Simply say your pop ups don't need added Cork as they are super buoyant. There are people like that like to turn a bottom bait into a pop up hence my answer. 📌
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The point I was making is people seem happy to take a pop up that isnít buoyant, then add something else that is buoyant, to make it buoyant enough! Why not just make it buoyant in the first place!
If you want a hookbait to look like a bottom bait but with a tad of buoyancy, buy a wafter! I havenít done anything to a hookbait to change its buoyancy in a decade!
One of the images I was referring to was a ďnameĒ telling people to drill out a 12mm pop up and cork it simply cos it wasnít good enough to pick up his hinge stiff rig. My argument is that all that faff is a cop out! Consumer should be able to just take a bait from the pot and cast it out!
The reason that baitroom or proper job or specialised hookbaits and handcraft have done so well is because the hookbaits do exactly what they say.
And MozziÖÖ..drilling out a hookbait or having a low buoyancyÖÖ.I just donít get it! Put edible items, liquids, attractors, additives in a pop up and make it pop up! Surely thatís itís job!
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   Old Thread  #323 4 Jan 2022 at 4.49pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think that Gav was asking if people were adding cork to shop bought pop ups, due to them being not very buoyant.

You are right though a man of his experience probably has added buoyancy to a bottom bait at some point.
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   Old Thread  #322 4 Jan 2022 at 3.43pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It depends really. I prefer a less buoyant pop up that I can cork, simply because it leaves more room for attractors. There is a commercial standard though
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   Old Thread  #321 4 Jan 2022 at 7.33am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Managed a day sessions and an overnight session over Christmas first time out fishing over the Tricknut and Herb feed boilies, no monsters but managed five fish all doubles to 19.8
I had three on the Herb fishing a snowman, hard bottom bait with a 12mm pop-up and two on the Tricknut fishing a match the hatch wafter, could/should of been six as I had a massive drop back and ended up winding in a three foot long stick fish with the rig wrapped up in it.
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   Old Thread  #320 4 Jan 2022 at 6.16am  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or more likely pop ups that are **** for buoyancy and need cork to stay popped up more than 4hrs
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   Old Thread  #319 3 Jan 2022 at 11.43pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's just a simple way to turn your bottom bait into a pop up or wafter. I would have thought a man with your experience would have had the same at some point
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It certainly does seem the case Matt.
I said in one of our films last summer that other brands have started to come to us to solve some of their issues with pop ups. Probably a good time to keep some of our secrets to ourselves 😂😂
Hope you are well!
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   Old Thread  #317 3 Jan 2022 at 8.08pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When I ran UB Baits the most common complaint from anglers was the standard of pop ups from almost all the big bait companies. So yeah, I am not surprised!!!

Pop ups that are really wafters, wafters that are pop ups no consistency whatsoever.

Good luck for 2022 all the best

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Back to work tomorrow and itís going to be chaos. Nice to have a little break over Xmas and recharge the batteries.
Something I noticed in the last week is photos of several bait companies and well known anglers posting photos of hookbaits that need to have cork inserted in them. Iím a bit out of touch with what other brands are selling and who uses what etc but Is that common practice to have to help pop ups to actually pop up?
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refreshing ,
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I see that the mild spell has been productive. Some lovely carp being caught this Christmas!
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   Old Thread  #313 24 Dec 2021 at 1.56pm  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That krill and cal range is very popular so yes they will be staying! Itís the k20 krill bait being phased out (I will be working on the final bait in the range over the next year or so
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   Old Thread  #312 24 Dec 2021 at 12.24pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I checked, it aint about me thank f***
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   Old Thread  #311 24 Dec 2021 at 12.17pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And for all of those who come to the forum to stir or cause trouble. ÖÖ. Keep your nose clean and do things properly and repeat custom will come!

Sound advice.

Looking forward to the book.
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   Old Thread  #310 24 Dec 2021 at 11.50am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi - Will you still be doing the Krill and Cal corkballs, is it just the krill boilies being phased out?
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   Old Thread  #309 23 Dec 2021 at 1.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think people are guilty of switching too much as well, on the occasions Iíve delivered to new local lads invariably the chest freezer resembles a small tackle shops.

Sometimes switching, especially mid season can be the worst thing, confidence in your bait creates such a mental freedom in how you go about the other facets of your angling
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   Old Thread  #308 23 Dec 2021 at 12.28pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well written, and the phrase 'balls deep' never fails to make me laugh
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   Old Thread  #307 23 Dec 2021 at 11.45am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fine words
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   Old Thread  #306 22 Dec 2021 at 7.15pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im 100% a new customer
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   Old Thread  #305 22 Dec 2021 at 6.01pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gav, that would be very interesting reading

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Well, just sat down to drink a cold cider after what has been a very busy winter period (long may it continue)
I think the tricknut will be popular next year judging by what people (and you guys) have said so far.
Bait making seems to cause so much bitterness at times on the forum.
My advice to anyone is to buy a little bit of any bait that you are interested in (and I donít just mean handcraft) then use that over several sessions to see how the results go. Also if you do not have any idea if a bait is good or bad or have no understanding of bait then show it to someone who perhaps does. Always dip a finger in before going balls deep with a 100k order. One of the things that sticks in my mind this year is customers who tried us for the first time after sitting on 50-100k of bait they got in a deal that they didnít do very well with. Let the results do the talking.
And for all of those who come to the forum to stir or cause trouble. ÖÖ. Keep your nose clean and do things properly and repeat custom will come!
Everyone has a personal view on other brands, but if their bait is crap then folk will soon work that out. I donít see Mike Willmott on here defending himself cos he doesnít need to!!
If you canít be anything else then just be nice!!
Iíll write a book on what I know goes on behind the scenes one day 😂😂😂😂 that will be a good book!!
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That Tricknut looks and smells superb!!

Sting........just as I remember from the early 90s........
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   Old Thread  #302 21 Dec 2021 at 10.30am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You wonít be disappointed👍
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   Old Thread  #301 20 Dec 2021 at 8.13pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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havent tried the sting but the squid wafters have seriously made 2021 a very good year.
gonna have to try his boilies next year if his hookbaits are anything to go by
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   Old Thread  #300 20 Dec 2021 at 2.09pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You arent wrong!
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   Old Thread  #299 20 Dec 2021 at 12.29pm  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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...Gav's products are getting a bit of a cult following!

...and a well deserved following too!
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   Old Thread  #298 19 Dec 2021 at 11.06pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sorry mate, it wasnt supposed to! I was just pointing out that gav's products are getting a bit of a cult following!

I dont know much about your outfit and i know zero about making bait so who am i to judge anyone else!

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   Old Thread  #297 19 Dec 2021 at 10.53pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That seems back handed All I was trying to say is its not right for mine to be mentioned on his post by name mate, pretty simples
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That sting has served me so well. The trouble is now that I have so many brilliant little products in my box that Iím not sure which one I want to cast out! It is also easy to see that the very venues which were proving tricky with bright hookbaits in the summer are now producing the goods on them again. The sting is still our biggest seller!
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Thanks mate! Kind words!
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   Old Thread  #294 19 Dec 2021 at 6.53pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Sting wafter saved me a blank this weekend. Moved to another lake on site for a few hours after struggling for a night in the main lake and managed to nick a bite and had a pretty mid double. Nothing special but any carp is welcome this time of year and the Sting seems to work everywhere I've tried it so far
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   Old Thread  #293 19 Dec 2021 at 6.25pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I very much doubt that you will be stealing any of gav's customers. Handcraft is doing some really great things

I thought id put the name up. I looked it up because people were asking. A simple facebook search was all that it took
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   Old Thread  #292 19 Dec 2021 at 4.42pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well lads, I have just returned from a session where I chased those slippery little buggers around two lakes and all to no avail. However everyone else seems to have faired much better. Lots of love for banoffee, tutti, sting and tricknut this weekend and tomorrow being our last day looks like another chaotic one. Iím working through all the pms and all of the ones on our social media whilst trying to be a good dad 😂
All I will say is that the positivity about all we are doing is a breath of fresh air for me right now. Long may it continue!
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Using the Almond pop ups yesterday,I had a very nice common,just on dark,dimpsy ...I hung around waiting for the window,and it happened, well pleased

I found the Almonds great for deep water fishing in a mine I fish as well..

I got Marcus's and Gavs baits...no where is safe lol..👍👍
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   Old Thread  #283 18 Dec 2021 at 3.27pm  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I wonít mention that on this post out of respect to Gav, only reason Iíve ever referred to it is so people understand where my views come from
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   Old Thread  #282 18 Dec 2021 at 1.41pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Whatís your bait company out of interest
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   Old Thread  #281 17 Dec 2021 at 7.25pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same here you can't use a throwing stick until dusk and even spombs don't guarantee every bait getting to the bottom. Small baits have a better percentage chance. However if everyone is using 12 mm it would be good to use 24mm. I'm loathe to spomb at feeding time. Wish I could afford night vision goggles to improve my nightime throwing stick skills.
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I'm not lol. Seeing my glorious Albion cheated for points with wolves made me jump back on the forum to escape reality
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   Old Thread  #279 17 Dec 2021 at 2.50pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As a kid I made a ( very simple to be fair ) mix of CPSP90, caseins, glm and birdfood. it was a fantastic thing, I could only afford very small amounts though. a 4 egg mix would last the whole weekend, you just had to bait clever not erratically.

Around my way I reckon a good 15% of all the boilies used are taken by gulls, they even dive after the spombs now. so if someone is willing to bait at night / cast intermittently theres a saving to be had there. and certainly a preferable saving to make rather than compromise on the quality of the one thing the carp needs to show interest in.



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   Old Thread  #278 17 Dec 2021 at 2.38pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It is a shame that a huge part of the market are only interested if the price is right. Our expensive bait will be the lowest selling bait (a sad fact) from now on but I also understand not everyone has endless money to buy bait. My words of advice are, if itís really cheap then think carefully. And once again, if money is really tight (trust me it has been for me this year) then buy 5kg of good bait rather than 20kg of crap in a deal. Treat every boilie like itís your last!!
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   Old Thread  #277 17 Dec 2021 at 2.31pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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100%

My baits cost more, but relatively speaking I make very little too, certainly far less than a pound a kilo, then thereís reinvestment into machinery / space etc.

Boilie prices have stayed the same despite everything going up, 400% mark up on bait is in the days of old now.


It links into that other thread about turns when you think about it, people assume more shifting can be done because basemixes can be made fairy cheaply.

To give an example, and I hope you donít mind gav

The price of the bait cannot just reflect the ingredients it contains, labour costs, outsource costs, shipping, storage, all cost money. Then there is the rental of premises, electric for freezers and drying rooms etc

Rent round my way, without business rates jn top is around 13.50/15 per foot for units so a 1000 square foot unit is doing 13-15k a year rent as is.

Add onto this tge cost of residential living, food, utilises, cars etc itís a wonder anyone who makes bait can afford to fish


10 quid a kilo bulk for a decent bait would allow a fair wage to the maker and bring prices online with the 80% increase in everything else fishing wise.

Offers are suppose to entice one in to repeat custom not be taken advantage of solely so if Hav did put offers up itís counter intuitive to business.


One thing gets me is a lot of people Moan that good baits change / disappear as well as good companies, in reality that can be saved by paying a merchant a reasonable price for their wares.
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   Old Thread  #276 17 Dec 2021 at 2.30pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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PM Gavin.......
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   Old Thread  #275 17 Dec 2021 at 2.07pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ah offers!
We get asked this all the time. Can you do deals and can you knock this off. I donít mind people asking at all but Iím afraid our profit margins on boilies are tiny. There are even people on this forum who have worked behind the scenes with us that will back that statement up. As per below, we shifted one bait (and lost money) to make space for another but you wonít see deals and offers put up as we just canít afford to do it right now. Iíd be very wary of companies constantly offering bait out cheap or crazy deals but then again Iím not one to sit and watch what everyone else is doing.
I have always said that our bulk price is crazy cheap and it will have to go up a bit as certain ingredients have gone up hugely this year.
Iím doing all I can to buy bigger and keep costs down.
Many customers buy as a group to share the costs and postage and feel free to come and collect if you are local. Iíll answer any question you all have as honestly as I can.
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   Old Thread  #274 17 Dec 2021 at 1.56pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím with you on that. Bulk orders are discounted and Iíve only known 2 ďoffersĒ, 1 was clearing freezers so they could move to bigger premises and lately clearing K20 space to make way for Tricknut. Handcraft is a relatively new company working balls out to succeed, producing high quality products. Why would they put offers on? I may be wrong on this but Iím sure Gav will see it and put me right😎

Iím always up for a game of football Mozzi⚽️⚽️😂
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   Old Thread  #273 17 Dec 2021 at 12.23pm  3Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you want it cheaper just buy more, the prices seem pretty reasonable to me.
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   Old Thread  #272 17 Dec 2021 at 12.13pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pretty obviously waiting for an offer i.e forum offer etc

Or for a game of five a side, I dont know.
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   Old Thread  #271 17 Dec 2021 at 12.05pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What do you mean waiting for an offer?
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   Old Thread  #270 16 Dec 2021 at 9.21pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just waiting for an offer before I bite the bullet.
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   Old Thread  #269 15 Dec 2021 at 10.28am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am really looking forward to getting out and trying them. They smell amazing, love a herb bait in winter. I don't go much on boilies or crumb in winter too be honest other than single hookbaits, so these fit the bill!
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   Old Thread  #268 14 Dec 2021 at 12.57pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apologies for all of the threads popping in and out! All sorted now so feel free to discuss anything handcraft! Crazy busy this week which is odd for DecemberÖÖalso some wicked fish being caught now that the weather has turned!
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   Old Thread  #265 12 Dec 2021 at 5.10pm  2Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Red Legends have been very good to me this year and have def helped me get a few bonus fish at some tricky times, love the colour and it's unique smell.
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   Old Thread  #263 10 Dec 2021 at 4.11pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great, thank you, and look forward to receiving them.
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   Old Thread  #262 10 Dec 2021 at 2.44pm  1Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Saw your order earlier! One of my lads (reg) has fished the red legends over the herb this year and has had a brilliant season (heís a bloody good angler though) but he rates them highly! Your order will go out on Monday which is looking like another very busy one!
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   Old Thread  #261 10 Dec 2021 at 2.10pm  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have just bought a couple of bits, love the look of the Red Legends! Looking forward to trying them.
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Yes they were all my recipes. I tweaked my own baits for handcraft, the krill bait is being phased out, but Nutriplex will stay as itís one of our favourites. You will like the new tricknut, proper nut bait with very different texture to most nut baits out there. Something for everyone!
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   Old Thread  #259 10 Dec 2021 at 8.53am  Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!