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   Old Thread  #87 21 Apr 2021 at 9.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It seems likely that the EU will introduce some kind of covid/health passport of some kind, if they do you won't have a choice but to engage with it if you want to travel to the EU. This is very straightforward, it's not down to how we feel it's right or wrong because that does not matter, if they bring it in you will have to do it.

Now that that's all resolved the situation has not really changed in France recently, the numbers of cases are still bobbing about with the current 7 day average of 33k a day. If i recall they are reviewing it every month so it seems reasonable to expect this to continue until they have a significant level of their population vacinated because there is no other way to get out of lockdown. I realise that revelation upsets some so if your one of the anti vaccers then feel free to say how you will manage the pandemic in a humane reasonable way reducing deaths to the minumum.

Here's hoping that 3rd Q 2021 is a go for travel to France without rediculous requirements of quarantine so we can get back to the fisheries and get hauling and the gravy train gets rolling again for the venues.



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   Old Thread  #86 20 Apr 2021 at 5.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think the problem with giving updated information on the website is that we really have nothing new to report. Nothing has changed for some months and we have no idea or when we will be able to take UK anglers once more. Your comment regarding continental anglers is valid however when all our weeks are currently booked by UK anglers it would not be right to invite EU anglers to fish them. I also understand that night fishing is banned at the moment so that is of no help.
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   Old Thread  #85 20 Apr 2021 at 4.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have a suspicion that the financial pressures of continued lockdown and restricted travel will begin to influence decisions as the year progresses. One thing for sure is that Covid is going to be with us for a very long time so I believe that testing and inoculation are likely to influence how Governments react to the travel situation. As a lake owner I can see that with bookings being carried forward it will be some years yet before income looks like getting back to some degree of normality. Tough times.
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   Old Thread  #84 20 Apr 2021 at 4.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Digital passport was only proposed by 12 eu members, not many really important ones... Eu in general didnt decide anything on it yet and with all the problems and WHO against it it will take a lot of time for that idea to become reality (imo)... What I miss from owners is more up to date situation and information on their web sites/fb about situation in France and conditions for entering/traveling for EU and UK anglers... Still believe that EU anglers will be the first ones that will be able to proper travel in France but dont see many owners really do much on attracting them in any way...
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   Old Thread  #83 20 Apr 2021 at 3.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Jim, i make you right. But the problem with a COVID passport is that is a political hot potato to introduce it until you have offered the vaccine to everyone, and that they have had both doses. (even then what do you do about under 18s? and those that cant have the vaccination for medical reasons ?)

It can not be right that Grandpa and Grandma can bugger off to spain for a fortnight because they have been vaccinated, but their grandchildren are grounded at home, can it? Especially when the young have given up so much in respect of a disease, that FOR THEM at least, is unlikely to be serious at all.

So if we do the maths, by the time we have offered both doses to the entite UK population, thats going to be late October /early November at the earliest.

I cant see UK joining any digital passport introduced until then, unless they make the vaccination commercially accessible, which they (UK Government) say they won't.

This probably means that foreign travel without isolation and or significant restrictions is off the cards for most people this year, so i recon its another right off for an entite season for france in terms of fishing, i hope i am wrong, but i am not very optimistic on the near future (ie rest of 2021) in terms of travel outside UK being accessible.

Australia, by way of example, has made it clear that its borders are likely to remain shut until 2023.

There will come a point when travel returns to something that is taken for granted and easy for all, but i doubt its within the remaining part of this year. We are nearly in month 5 and not much has changed. I dont believe BJ for one minute on qny of his promises given the track record.



Do you have bookings then Jim you recon will go ahead?


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   Old Thread  #82 20 Apr 2021 at 9.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I see that the EU are now planning to implement a digital health pass by mid to late June to allow holiday travel within the EU. I feel that Yidboy is quite correct in as much as it has now become clear that Covid is with us long term and we must learn to live with it. Inoculation, whether you agree with it or not, is certainly going to be a major factor in whether you can travel or not and Covid tests before crossing borders will become the norm. For those anglers that refuse to be vaccinated it is very likely that you will not be fishing on the Continent for the foreseeable future imo.
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   Old Thread  #81 20 Apr 2021 at 8.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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open to anyonhe who can travel........French anglers only at present!
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   Old Thread  #80 20 Apr 2021 at 8.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lot's of if's, buts and maybes.......the simple fact is that we are unlikely to ever be covid free so the respective governments are building plans to be able to live alongside covid not free of it. The vaccination programme as mentioned already is designed to reduce the impact of the virus not to prevent infection rates. We are all going to run the risk of infection just by walking out of our front door so adherence to preventative measures is about the best we can do plus the vaccination. France like every other country won't be under the illusion that they will be covid free at any stage and the economic pressure cooker surrounding every country with high infection rates will eventually tip the scales. Yes passport control will have risks of infection so wear gloves and a mask etc etc etc. Common sense, vaccine and adherence to the rules are our only defence not battening down borders for the rest of time! Life WILL go on.
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   Old Thread  #79 20 Apr 2021 at 7.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Could the lake owners in France explain if their lakes are closed ? Either by themselves or by the french government

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   Old Thread  #78 20 Apr 2021 at 7.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ahh well done you!!
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   Old Thread  #77 20 Apr 2021 at 7.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No because I live in FRANCE
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   Old Thread  #76 20 Apr 2021 at 6.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I go to super U every week. I haven't had covid. 😂
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   Old Thread  #75 20 Apr 2021 at 4.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And why wouldnt they... Ffs if this virus would be so easy to get for sure we would all be alredy infected like 10 times... Prettty sure you people get out of car in UK dont you?
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   Old Thread  #74 19 Apr 2021 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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ok fine BUT lots of anglers do go on ferry, do stop for fuel do go to super U..thats all Im saying
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   Old Thread  #73 19 Apr 2021 at 6.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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