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   Old Thread  #208 11 May 2021 at 6.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I for one remain confident that May 17th and June 9th will see a change for the better in line with the announcements already made by both UK & French governments.
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   Old Thread  #207 11 May 2021 at 5.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good afternoon everyone, as I told you we have been speaking to the English Ambassy yesterday and I have been phoning the Tourism Minister.
There has been some confusion on social media when you can travel to France.
Travel is permitted to France from the UK May 17th onwards. The requirements to enter France to the UK will be a negative PCR test prior to arrival.
France has stated that travel would be allowed for non EU countries from June 9th. The UK is one of the seven countries allowed to travel to France and this since the 12th March so it is definitely not illegal to travel in France.
I am joining to this post some informations that might interest you too.

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Pascale (Goncourt on FB)

P.s Also stated is that there are 7 non EU countries including the UK that can travel from 12th March along with EU countries ??
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   Old Thread  #206 11 May 2021 at 3.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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UK government pages

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-confirms-traffic-light-list-ahead-of-cautious-return-to-international-travel

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#how-the-rules-will-change-on-17-may



There will no longer be a legal restriction or permitted reason required to travel internationally. There will be a traffic light system for international travel, and you must follow the rules when returning to England depending on whether you return from a red, amber or green list country.
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   Old Thread  #205 11 May 2021 at 3.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't disagree with your thoughts on the rules but you have said "IF" they don't change. Currently the government advised that is what will happen on the 17th, but as always in these discussions over the last year ish, it's all speculation until the dates and it is officially announced or not.

We will see next week hopefully


I agree with the bending / ignoring of the rules by people, possibly a contributing factor to this keep dragging on etc.
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   Old Thread  #204 11 May 2021 at 3.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Was due to be in France first weekend of June. Have just been emailed by the lake to say that France are not allowing any tourists in before 9th June so we are looking at moving our booking.
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   Old Thread  #203 11 May 2021 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We dont know that


Yes it may change, but if it doesn't then whether "the ballif gets your food," (hes still got to give it to you so theres an interaction) or "youve been tested", or "you know you will be ok" or whatever other 'reason' you may well conjure up to justify your trip, its clearly for leisure purposes, and therefore (assuming the rules dont change) isnt permitted.

And there in lies the problem here. From the very beginning of this whole pandemic people have found 'reasons' or justifications as to why a certain rule doesnt apply to them!!!

No wonder we were hit so hard (albeit i admit there are other reasons at play).

Why do "you" (and i dont mean you as the poster or particular individual) get to decide what rules apply to you and what rules dont?

I often find that those individuals that are selective with their rule interpretation are the first to complain when others break other rukes!

Its a thin end if a wedge. Either we all accept all the rules whether we like them or think they are sensible or we dont.

Personally i dont like ANY of these covid rules, as in the same way i dont like the UK speed limits, VAT rules, taxation, and a whole host of other rules.

But...

If the rules dont change come May 17th, a fishing trip to France is not permitted because its clearly a leisure activity, and therefore illegal. However you try to dress it up or justify it.

Accordingly if you go (even if you conjure up some self justification) you deserve to be stopped, turned back and fined in the same way as i would be if i drive my car down the motorway at 130mph! ,

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   Old Thread  #202 11 May 2021 at 1.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lake owner or bailiff will get your shipping. Pre covid it's something I've always done anyway. No skin off my nose popping down to get their stuff.
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   Old Thread  #201 11 May 2021 at 12.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But isn't that just because it is the correct current stance of the uk? Currently international leisure travel is illegal but on / after the 17th I suspect that site will change to remove that statement as it will only be recommended against travel to amber countries
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   Old Thread  #200 10 May 2021 at 9.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great idea .
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   Old Thread  #199 10 May 2021 at 7.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We could do with a dedicated thread on travel.experiences ONLY. People who have attempted to fulfill their trip to France for example, did they get through or turned away, what were they actually asked to provide, are they actively checking for bait/food, what's the cheapest PCR test etc etc? Just a thought as so many questions still unanswered.
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   Old Thread  #198 10 May 2021 at 5.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
So where I work I get tested twice a week and it shows up on a app (v passport ) whether itís positive or negative.
Now my question is would this be classed as a private test and therefore be acceptable as itís not nhs ??
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   Old Thread  #197 10 May 2021 at 3.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think anybody who attempted to travel to France for fishing ATM runs the real risk of being turned back ay their point /port of exit from the UK.

And IMO rightly so.
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   Old Thread  #196 10 May 2021 at 3.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lake run by a French bailiff who is willing to do the shopping I dare say girls a few beers lol
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   Old Thread  #195 10 May 2021 at 3.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As i said previously.

The self isolation rules are there for those people who are travelling for reasons OTHER than leisure purposes.

I have property in South Africa (bloody hell!) and have enquired with a lawyer if i could go. Answer Yes, provided its NOT for leisure purpose. I would have to demonstrate my reason for travel.

But upon return i would need to follow the rules for returning from a red list country.

So the rules are there for people who need to travel for valid reasons outside leisure purposes.

Turn up with a van load of carp fishing tackle at Dover or Folkestone and try convincing border control your trip isn't for leisure purposes if challanged. Best of luck!
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   Old Thread  #194 10 May 2021 at 3.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thats arrivals TO the uk.

The Government website says that you should not LEAVE the uk for travel to an amber or red rated country for leisure purposes.

So France may well let you in, but that aint no good if UK border force at say Dover wont let you leave!



Its like sticking Australia and NZ on the green list, great in theory, except they wont ket you in. So its pointless.

There is no joined up thinking between nation states.

And just as a matter of interest, if you do travel to France for a weeks fishing in the near future, what you going to eat for that week? (unless the lake provides food- even thats an issue). Because :

1. Brexit means you can not take your own food.

2. Given the current need to self isolate at the lake you are not permitted to pop down to Super U and stock up?





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