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   Old Thread  #119 14 Apr 2021 at 5.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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jesus wept

you do realise that the very basis of this argument is racist? judging someone based on the color of their skin?

not only that but your use of the statistics is weak to say the least - 53% murder rate? rate of what? compared to what?

without context it's useless.

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   Old Thread  #118 14 Apr 2021 at 5.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In cctv footage he looks alive enough to have gone to buy cigarettes, then when in the custody of a handful of police officers he is dead.
It doesnít matter if somebody is on drugs, they shouldnít be dying in police custody. Serve and protect, not smother and kill.
GF was obviously a degenerate but the rights that keep all of us safe protect the pond life too and even if he did deserve the death penalty (for fake currency lol) he wouldíve had his day in court
Iím all for executing 40-50% of the global population because they are generally ****s, but if that were a reality there would be nobody left because we are all a **** to somebody. As Iíve said many a time civilised society is basically the tolerance of ****s
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   Old Thread  #117 14 Apr 2021 at 4.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Floyd has the skin rolled back from his neck to his buttocks I his autopsy, there was no brushing under the skin which suggests to me that the force used didn't lead to his death.

>Did he take **** loads of fentanyl and compromise his own heart somehow momentarily?

Proves the point doesn't it? Crowder: don't take drugs = live, Floyd: take drugs to such a level that is 4 X that of overdose levels = dies.

When I first saw the footage, I reacted just like everyone else did, the cop looked like he'd killed Floyd, since seeing different angles, the half hour of the interaction with Floyd, finding out about the drugs, the overdose he'd had only a month or so previously, drugs in the back of the cop car with Floyd's saliva on them, the way he kept saying "I can't breathe" even before he was on the ground, his erratic behaviour, I've come to an entirely different reasoned conclusion.
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   Old Thread  #116 14 Apr 2021 at 4.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Heavy handed policing towards black people in the USA

the 2017 FBI crime statistics brings up some very interesting data sets, one of them being the murder rate

Black's: 53.1% murder rate of which they're 13% of the population
White: 44.2% murder rate of which they're 62% of the population

Seeing as the murder rate is so high in the black community, considering their low percentage rate, would it not seem reasonable that the police would focus more on this particular group? That might seem on the outside if you're black that cops are always pulling blacks over more than whites do = racism, inwardly, blacks are committing murders higher than white people and again are significantly less [13%] in the population distribution.



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   Old Thread  #115 14 Apr 2021 at 4.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And if youíre lucky enough to have both they are probably holstered on different sides. Left and right can be a bit tricky sometimes I admit
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   Old Thread  #114 14 Apr 2021 at 4.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Seeing they are 2 different types of weapon you would think at least the safety lock would be different?
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   Old Thread  #113 14 Apr 2021 at 3.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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>Do you think what the officer did was right?

Under the circumstances, from what I gather they thought he was on something - which he was, he needed to be subdued. Did the knee kill him? No, no I don't think it did, he overdosed + heart problems.
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   Old Thread  #112 14 Apr 2021 at 2.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a convenient place to have died from an overdose.. under a white copperís knee. Talk about good timing!
Itís a shame that moron recreating it didnít die, talk about tasteless. I havenít and wonít watch any of that tripe to comment but the circumstances of why he didnít die are the ones youíve listed. Did he take **** loads of fentanyl and compromise his own heart somehow momentarily?
The copper knew full well what he was doing, he compresses the life out of GF
It doesnít matter if heís a drug addict porn actor who threatened somebody with a gun, he was a free man. arrest him safely for the fake note and let the court be his judge, not a knee on the neck/back/shoulder in the gutter being filmed dying
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   Old Thread  #111 14 Apr 2021 at 2.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Lol

Coming from you that is golden!
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   Old Thread  #110 14 Apr 2021 at 1.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Two points missing.

Itís murder if you are aware that your actions could kill someone. That is what the prosecution are trying to prove.
The racism issue blew up because it was deemed that the actions of these police officers we disproportional to how they would have acted if it was a white person. The body cam footage that is being referred to is a smokescreen.

You can have all the opinions based on the news you see. As someone living in NA I can tell you that itís actually a lot worse and these types of incidents (heavy actions and unneccesary force by police against black people) are a lot more common than you see in the press and that institutional racism is faaaaaaaar worse than anything I ever saw or experienced in the uk. I have colleagues who have experienced racial profiling by local police and they were genuinely terrified when they were held up against a wall by a police officer with a gun in their belt. ďI just did everything he said as I had no idea of how he would react or what he was going to doĒ

My experiences in Atlanta and the other southern states a couple of years back were that the white people I met were entitled, rude and arrogant while the people of colour were friendly, helpful and open.

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   Old Thread  #109 14 Apr 2021 at 1.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I dont think kneeling on someone's neck for a prolonged period of time is any police forces procedure.Do you think what the officer did was right?
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   Old Thread  #108 14 Apr 2021 at 1.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unless you know the exact details of the Minneapolis police procedure for dealing with crims, best not to speculate, eh?
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   Old Thread  #107 14 Apr 2021 at 1.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Because he had 11mg [mg could be wrong weight] per ml of Fentanyl + meth amphetamine in his blood + Covid + a dodgy heart. The good doctor in court said that people have died of 0.3mg of Fentanyl in their blood, I'll add: the 0.3mg doesn't take into account what other contributing factors like age, sex, weight, height that lead to others dying of much lower than Floyd's 11mg.
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   Old Thread  #105 14 Apr 2021 at 1.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If true, how comes Crowder didn't die?

He wasn't strangled.

Crowder isn't the biggest threat in the US, the mainstream media who have been fanning the flames of muh racism are the biggest threat. Like their total misrepresentation of the known facts of this case, totally ignore the drugs etc, previous convictions for pushing a gun into pregnant womens belly, porn star, instead they painted him as a pillar of the community and upstanding member of society when the truth of it is he was anything but that.

The subsequent riots that ensued and the media coverage was laughable at best and sinister at worse, like clearly burning down buildings in the background of live broadcasts from the likes of CNN caused by rioters and looters, with talking heads saying stuff like "mostly peaceful protests".
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