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   Old Thread  #9 31 Mar 2021 at 7.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fine guage hook don't fancy that with a good fish in the tide, I would change asap, good luck
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   Old Thread  #8 31 Mar 2021 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hi All,
firstly thanks for the replies
I'm using 2 leads firstly a trolling lead with the double ended swivel then a gripper lead near the hooklink.
I'm also rowing out so I know the twist isn't occurring on the retrieve.
I'll try some of the proposed solutions at the weekend.
Only change from when I've fished like this before is the Sandy bottom which initially interested me, but I'm also using a much finer gauge hook (mainly because I can't get the heavier wide gape hooks I used to use)
For anyone that's interested I'll have a play and post next week
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   Old Thread  #7 31 Mar 2021 at 9.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .has been a bit controversial on another site lol (Barbel) but maybe try a combi rig with a small size 11 swivel at the boom end connection with a small braided section and a longer boom in general with a QC swivel at the lead end . . .

Also maybe 5" is too small - go the other way and try 20" . . ?

Bit like trotting / match rigs - a small swivel at the hooklink end alleviates twist on the retrieve - especially using double baits eg maggots . . .
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   Old Thread  #6 31 Mar 2021 at 8.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Definitely bigger bait or even double boilies,used to fish the river itchen in Southampton for the carp and never had issues but then I fished big baits glugged on heavy leads like a gripper lead.
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   Old Thread  #5 30 Mar 2021 at 5.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have you tried baiting on to a swivel on the shank of the hook and hook bead rather than on an hair.
The rotation of the swivel may reduce the spinning of the double bait.
Has mentioned try a single bait.
Back in the day of match fishing we used to suffer a lot of this fishing double maggot. To get past this we fished a micro swivel on the end of the main line and joining the hook link to the other end of the swivel.
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   Old Thread  #4 30 Mar 2021 at 4.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Could it be the double bait spinning in the current or when you are retreiving it. Try a single bait bigger if you need to deter small fish. This spinning can occur when fishing with double maggots on the hook.
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   Old Thread  #3 30 Mar 2021 at 3.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi Tim

Yes deffinately. I've also had an email from a friend I reached out to saying the problem isn't the rig it's the bottom which is predominantly sand that's causing it which is really interesting
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   Old Thread  #2 30 Mar 2021 at 3.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can you use a stiffer rig ,
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   Old Thread  #1 30 Mar 2021 at 2.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hi All

I'm currently fishing a large river (maybe half a km wide)
I'm fishing the same way I have on the big European rivers, but I'm experiencing a lot of twist in the the hooklink.
5 inch, knotless knot, double chickpea on the hair.
The river is tidal, but I've fished that before with no problems.
I'm wondering if it's something in the water messing with the rigs or if there's a better rig to be using?.
Hoping some of the barbell boys could also chip in (Gerry maybe?)

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