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   Old Thread  #20 26 Mar 2021 at 11.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím glad Iíve come across this because Iíve always wondered about this aswell, I fish like this a lot and my catch rate seems good enough but sometimes I do wonder if Iím missing out on a few extra bites. I normally fish a German rig or a slip d with a small mesh bag on the end, we are talking like a 1 inch ball nothing big at all unless I want to use more and then I just fish solid bags
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   Old Thread  #19 26 Mar 2021 at 9.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never had a problem with small mesh bags on any hook link
Try it in the margins with different baits
For me they slow the rig falling through the water column and Allow me time to set my line etc without
Snagging the hook
Iíve never use nuggets in the bags although Iím sure it would help
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   Old Thread  #18 26 Mar 2021 at 10.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I use a 2-3inch stick of pva crushed boilies threaded on down my 20lb amnesia rig, with a pva nugget in the end for the hook to be safely nicked into, I only fish at 70-80yrds, and have complete confidence that my rig is fishing, I usually fish a wafter on german or basic hair rig on my local gravel pits, spomb before and over the top. Keeping it simple.
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   Old Thread  #17 24 Mar 2021 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .a chap on my syndy uses small golf ball mesh bags but ties them to the underside of his lead on a helicopter rig (but you could use an Avid clip for a lead clip presentation) . . .he also uses a stiff rig . . .

Most of his fishing is within catapult range but he never sticks out boilies - he just catapults out golf ball sized mesh bags and scatters them over a large area as freebies and usually with a single whole boilie embedded . . expensive in terms of PVA use but effective . . for him anyway!
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   Old Thread  #16 23 Mar 2021 at 4.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You've summed up the issue and options perfectly.

Mostly i use a supple braid and will hook on small mesh bags for shorter casts or on runs waters, and use solid bags on bigger chucks.

The stiffer hooklengths are really not suited to using a mesh bag as you've descrived.
I was doing some short sesh visits to a riggy lake so tried to get a small mesh bag as added attraction rather than catty, spombing wasnt an option on such a shallow clear water, but i doubted my presentation with the bags. Margin testing kind of confirmed it, and thought it worth discussion.
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   Old Thread  #15 23 Mar 2021 at 10.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .wouldn't hook on bags to a stiff rig / boom - they will land closer to the lead and therefore potentially 'loop up' the stiff hooklink making the whole thing look obvious . . .you could

1 - Feather the cast. Not a 100% guarantee but will definitely improve the presentation

2 - Pull back. I've done this habitually in the past on hard bottoms and as long as the bag is threaded onto the hooklink (rather than simply nicked on) and you use slow melt its usually fine - again, no guarantees - you could also be pulling back into a twig/some sh*te

3 - Put 3-4 PVA nuggets in the mesh to hold the whole lot up longer. Again no guarantees that the rig will lay out flat unless the bag mix drops first but then the freebies will be on your lead, not around your hookbait

4 - PVA bag clip - Attach the mesh bag to your lead, not your hook. This way the stiff link can do its job etc - freebies will be around your lead though obvs

5 - Cheat and use a bait boat instead - perfect presentation every time! Bait positioned away from the lead and freebies over the top

I use stiff rigs with wafters and don't bother with mesh bags at all - prefer to bait up with spomb / freebies over the top if I cannot use a boat. Would rather use a more supple hooklink if using mesh bags and accept the fact that some coiling once settled is likely to occur - on some waters this is unlikely to affect pick ups - if they're not rig shy and hungry they'll eat the lot anyway . . .
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   Old Thread  #14 21 Mar 2021 at 4.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have a look at Julian Cundiffs fb page pretty sure he uses mesh bags a lot with his multi rigs, he explains all on his page, catches a few too 👍
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   Old Thread  #13 20 Mar 2021 at 4.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Its certainly an option, but much too technical for me

I like an element of simplicity.
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   Old Thread  #12 18 Mar 2021 at 9.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Try some PVA nuggets in the bag, with a bit of testing you can get the right ratio so itís rather weightless. May be just enough for it to straighten out nicely. No good for distance work and also adds a bit of a splash but may work in the right circumstance
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   Old Thread  #11 18 Mar 2021 at 7.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'd ditch the mesh bags for pop ups buddy
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   Old Thread  #10 18 Mar 2021 at 4.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My usual set up is a supple hooklength in a solid bag or supple braid with small mesh bags just hooked on.
My flirtation with a d rig or ronnie/german is fairly new.
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   Old Thread  #9 18 Mar 2021 at 11.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed. Supple hooklink and mesh bag/solid bag also give you a greater margin for error; the weight and protection of the bag allows the hookbait to be presented on less than ideal substrates.
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   Old Thread  #8 18 Mar 2021 at 10.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same as. Never really got why anyone would use pop ups with bags, I'want my hookbait down with the contents of the bag and not waving about inches above it
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   Old Thread  #7 18 Mar 2021 at 10.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #6 18 Mar 2021 at 9.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I will only ever use a mesh bag on a clean substrate i.e. when I'm using a bottom bait or wafter. Pop ups are the one when it's a little dirty and I don't want my pop ups getting dragged down into that by a bag unless it's a solid bag. For me a pop up needs to sit gently on top of any dirt/chod and a mesh bag prevents it from doing that imo.
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