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   Old Thread  #240 13 Jun 2021 at 11.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Personally I have no issue if any wants to take the vaccine or not its there body and you take your chances either way. My issue is the divide that is being created trying to force people to take it and making out your the problem if you don't when clearly they do not know the long term effects of these vaccines cos the wide range of ill effects it can create in some unlucky people. Im now hearing the government want to put it in 12 - 15 year olds when all along they keep going on about we follow the science well they obviously don't cos the science says in this age group the chances of having adverse effects in this age group due to covid is basically nothing so they want to put a jab into an age group where they dont know what will happen in the future just to please the masses who are trying to force there views on the few due to being scared that they might pass it on to them even though they've been vaccinated makes no sense at all. Yeah the virsus can mutate if passed on but you can still catch and pass the covid on if you've been vaccinated so sort of defeats the argument. On a quick note my friend who is having the muscles locking up so he cant move his arms had covid and it did absolutely nothing to him not even a headache but he takes the vaccine to please family and friends and now he don't know whether he will be the same again. Anyway rant over I've got work in the morning
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   Old Thread  #239 13 Jun 2021 at 10.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Reuters merely used as an example as a highly regarded news source rather than some bloke down the pub !! Irony is the vaccine isnít getting us out of this either is it !! I wonder what the next new variant will be the G7 perhaps 😂

CDC VAERS. Vaccine Adverse Early Repointing System
June 12, 2021
According to the VAERS reporting system (within the CDC) there were 5,997 currently reported fatalities in 2021 attributed to vaccinations during the first half of this year.

This only accounts for cases in the US !

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   Old Thread  #238 13 Jun 2021 at 10.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #237 13 Jun 2021 at 10.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine adverse reactions - GOV.UK
It has all the vaccines in use at present and the ill effects and deaths are updated weekly
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   Old Thread  #236 13 Jun 2021 at 9.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The link i put up is definitely a proven government link to monitor ill effects from that vaccine.
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   Old Thread  #235 13 Jun 2021 at 9.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah not good so far over 863 people in the UK have died since taking this version of the vaccine and its caused some serious side effects.
Personally I know loads of people that have had this vaccine and the other versions of vaccine that have had nothing more than a headache or sore arm after having it but a couple of close friends had far worse one's arm's and hands seized up whist driving and he couldn't take his arms off the steering wheel whilst driving to change gear and is still having on goings problems with his arms and muscles seizing up and the other was in hospital with mild covid and was offered a trial drug which they told him if he took it he will be out within a couple of days instead of being there for a week to be monitored.. within 20 mins of taking the trial drug he died and was resuscitated this happened 4 times over the space of a couple of days. Thankfully he pulled through and was out of hospital in about a month but still has to go for checks to see if there's going to be any more ill effects from it.
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   Old Thread  #234 13 Jun 2021 at 8.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ah... Reuters. That champion of the underground media stream... or another mainstream news agency?

What is it you like to say?

Oh the irony...



And the Italian government. . . Yeah. Let's follow their impeccable example on things shall we? They're worse than our lot!

As for being glad I got my jab. It's a well documented fact that I am. If I have adverse reactions after the second I'll let you know. But my - and anyone else - being vaccinated isn't the cause for any extra month of lockdown now is it?

Noj - if it's genuinely a proven link then it is a worry.

Josh - if you got a ban for only one bs comment then the rest of us on here are leading charmed carp forum lives! I must have a dozen in the last month alone!

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   Old Thread  #233 13 Jun 2021 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hope your mum is on the mend soon Josh and hope youíre well mate
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   Old Thread  #232 13 Jun 2021 at 8.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But Covid can distinguish between world leaders & the plebiscite just as it can tell the time & not be noncontagious in supermarkets but contagious clothes hardware shops etc 😉
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   Old Thread  #231 13 Jun 2021 at 8.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cheers mate- my user was josh_shepz, donít really post as lost interest after being banned for one bull**** comment But still read. Honestly, my mums terrible so it really isnít oh I know of a distant, long lost, cousins, friends, uncles, friends mum who got ill. Sheís genuinely bedbound and in a terrible state. At 56 itís no good and a real worry. Like I say, hopefully I last another 60 years and tbh I donít fancy having something pumped into me to avoid a couple of weeks off with essentially flu like symptoms.

Noj summed it up perfectly when he used ďhaving already ran the gauntletĒ, thatís exactly who I feel, I interact with well over 100 different people a working week and have done since May last year. Whilst I do have some consciousness of not being vaccinated and meeting these people, 90% of them will be vaccinated themselves and Iím ordering boxes of PCR tests each week for me and the boys so we can prove weíre not ill to our customers.
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   Old Thread  #230 13 Jun 2021 at 8.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Over 100 cardiac deaths I think.. not side effects.. deaths
Not the clots on the brain.. just plain old heart failure of various guises.
**** that. I wonít be letting my kids have any of them and I certainly am not in a rush.
Read a few reports about measures being taken until next spring 😂
Ok for world leaders to have a jolly up, but I need a mask to buy a pint of milk and a cut loaf
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   Old Thread  #229 13 Jun 2021 at 7.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Awww coming from an indoctrinator of the young still swallowing that MSM bull**** Bet youíre so glad you rushed out for your jab another month of lockdown 😂
Perhaps you should broaden your horizons regards your assumed information sources

Reuters Friday 11th June

The Italian government said on Friday it was restricting the use of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to people over the age of 60, after a teenager who had received the shot died from a rare form of blood clotting.

Camilla Canepa died on Thursday aged 18 after being given the vaccine on May 25, triggering a media and political outcry over the Anglo-Swedish company's shot being used for adults of all ages despite previously-raised medical concerns.

"AstraZeneca will only be used for people over 60," the country's special COVID commissioner Francesco Figliuolo told reporters.

People under the age of 60 who have received a first dose of AstraZeneca should be given a different vaccine for the second dose, the government's chief medical adviser Franco Locatelli said at the same news conference.
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   Old Thread  #228 13 Jun 2021 at 7.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Covid- 19 AstraZeneca Vaccine Analysis print pdf
its all the side effects so far from this version of the vaccine and is updated monthly..
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   Old Thread  #227 13 Jun 2021 at 7.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Now don't you go believing everything you read....

Is that the actual, full truth? Government website? Sky news? Matt Hancock? Facebook frank?

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   Old Thread  #226 13 Jun 2021 at 7.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Theyíre vaccinating teenagers & they have just stopped using the AZ on under 60ís due to an 18 yr old dying from blood clots !!
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