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   Old Thread  #800 14 Jul 2021 at 5.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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More bullocks.

Two Italian scientists isolated and identified Covid 19 at the Spallanzani Institute in Rome in Feb 2020.

My local funeral director bought himself a Maserati after the first wave - over a year ago. He hasn't upgraded since the vaccine rollout, but he's got more free time.
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   Old Thread  #799 14 Jul 2021 at 5.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im so confused. Covid isnt real people arent dying but they are dying but its from pneumonia? People are dying but more from after the jab?

Are people dying or what?

Where do you actually stand. Is covid real or not. And what is the real purpose of the vaccine?


You keep telling to "ask any nurse" "ask any mortician" "ask any doctor" but we have done, and none agree with the one nut job youve always quoted.
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   Old Thread  #798 14 Jul 2021 at 5.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh Chairman Mal, bless you.

You are indeed the crusader of this Merry and joyful bunch, full of self righteous belief in as much as those that conform are doing it for everyone else's benefit like a modern day Mother Theresa. I admire your self assured beliefs and steadfast unbreakable attitude toward doing, what you consider ,as being whats best for you and yours. A rare breed indeed.

Speaking of Mother Theresa, did you know that she helped smuggle Children from Haiti for the Clinton foundation making millions, whilst the world still see's her as Florence Nightingale?

Nasty old lady that one!
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   Old Thread  #797 14 Jul 2021 at 5.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The (SPI-M-O) model a sub group of SAGE is worth a read as regards to vaccinations & its predictions to reinfection !! Available on the UGOV site
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   Old Thread  #796 14 Jul 2021 at 5.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Playing the world’s smallest 🎻
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   Old Thread  #795 14 Jul 2021 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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January until April saw the biggest number of deaths for many years, which, incidentally coincided with the first vax roll outs.

Ask any funeral directors and they will tell you! There is a great article written by Milton Keynes funeral services and a taped interview should you want to listen to his concerns and how he has never worn a mask whilst doing his job.

I would aslo like to ask another question if i may .......Why were/are no autopsies allowed on supposed covid deaths? Maybe the fact that the Italians went against that advise and found Bronchial Pneumonia and thrombosis to be the main killers and no traces of CV19. They have openly admitted that they have not been able to isolate this Virus, so tell me please how on earth do you invent a vax to protect against something that you have not been able to identify and isolate? Teenagers are suffering terrible heart problems with these jabs. Why would that be?
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   Old Thread  #794 14 Jul 2021 at 5.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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July 19th?

That's when the country will have greater freedom in their daily routines - as a result of millions of people doing lots of positive things for others, like for example getting vaccinated, working throughout the lockdowns (often in situations that could potentially put their health at risk from selfish others), caring for the elderly and infirm, providing food, shelter and transport for the country.

All the while faced with various ill informed tirades of insensitive bull from the anti mask, anti vaccine, anti Beeb (pun intended) brigade. Who will of course reap the benefits of the actions of others and find some smug way of claiming it as their victory over the evil overlords - basically the John Terry's of society - proudly telling anyone who is in earshot how they never wore a mask / distanced / washed their hands because they always knew better.

Probably
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   Old Thread  #793 14 Jul 2021 at 5.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The upshot of everyone getting vaxxed will be a new super bug so it is a good job there are like minded souls who believe in choice and bodily autonomy

Like jehovas witnesses?
You're rhetoric is not dissimilar to those door knocking fruitcakes

They get their infallible evidence from a higher power too
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   Old Thread  #792 14 Jul 2021 at 5.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No mathematician here but taken from Gov. Covid website

8th January 68,000 new cases and just under 34,000 people in hospital

8th July 32,500 new cases and just under 3,000 people in hospital

for comparison of similar case 20th December 35,000 cases and 20,00 in hospital.

So the jabs aren't working? or is part of the great reset/ bill gates/ alien invaders conspiracy.

I've had both my jabs and possibly covid when you couldn't get tested in the beginning. I'm classed as vulnerable that made my decision for me! People have to make their own decisions and i don't judge anyone on he decisions they make regarding this.

But somethings stopping the difference in cases to Hospital!
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   Old Thread  #791 14 Jul 2021 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Our immune systems didn't cope so well with the bubonic plague in the 14th century estimated at over 75 million deaths maybe as many as 200 million worldwide and still not so great at coping with it several hundreds of years later still accounting for approximately 650 deaths a year. You crack on with facts.
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   Old Thread  #790 14 Jul 2021 at 5.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've got a feeling you're going to try to tell us.

What's happening on the July 19th? ... It sounded exciting.
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   Old Thread  #789 14 Jul 2021 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeh, you got me......Fullfact.org funded by George Soros, Google and ebays founder?

Absolutely no bias there then eh? Do you know of George Soros and what he represents?
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   Old Thread  #788 14 Jul 2021 at 4.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you for your advice, much appreciated.

Sectioned? I doubt it. yet with these new laws who knows what they have in store for us that ask questions?

When doctors, virologists, professors & scientists get censored and shut down for expressing concern. When they have to advertise to get the desired vax uptake and give out free gifts. When nobody knows the potential long term effects because there has been no human trials of duration. When there is no more people dying than any other year in fact fewer in the last 18 months, When there are more hospitalisations from adverse reactions now than at any point during the supposed pandemic is there not any part of that that strikes you as odd?

The real question that needs to be asked is why everyone? The flu kills many more, but we live with it as the strains mutate just as corona viruses do, yet when have we ever gone to these extremes? The upshot of everyone getting vaxxed will be a new super bug so it is a good job there are like minded souls who believe in choice and bodily autonomy and the ability that our amazing immune system can offer us and has done for thousands of years. Our immune systems are truly remarkable. How did we ever survive to get this far?
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   Old Thread  #787 14 Jul 2021 at 4.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You seem to be devoid of the ability to fact check any of the rubbish you spread, proven wrong re blood donation, now read this ;;;
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Covid-19 vaccine did not kill every animal it was tested on
14 APRIL 2021
WHAT WAS CLAIMED
All animals used in Covid-19 vaccine trials died months later from immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.

OUR VERDICT
There is no evidence for this.. The claim is based on a 2012 study looking at different vaccines. The animals, in this case mice, were euthanized as is standard procedure in this sort of trial. They did not die “months later” as claimed.

A viral Facebook post claims that all animals involved in Covid-19 vaccine studies died months later from immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.

This is false.

The post appears to be a screenshot of an online article which makes a number of incorrect claims. The study this particular claim is based on was about severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and published in 2012. It did not focus on Covid-19 vaccines, or even use the same technology that underpins the vaccines currently being used against Covid-19. And even in this study, the animals were euthanized—they did not die in the ways described in the post.

Did animals die in the Covid-19 vaccine trials?
As we have written before, the Covid-19 vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca) have been tested on animals.

Chris Magee, head of policy and media at UK non-profit Understanding Animal Research (UAR), told Full Fact that in the case of Covid-19 vaccines, data already existed to indicate the vaccines were safe, which enabled researchers to run animal trials alongside the early stages of human trials.

Had the animals died during this process, he said, the human trials would have been immediately halted. The fact that they were not indicates the animals did not die unexpectedly.

He also said animals used in drug trials are usually euthanized, so scientists can examine their internal organs for signs of pathology.
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   Old Thread  #786 14 Jul 2021 at 4.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You do you and worry about what you want but please stop trying to enlighten or force it on others it's your opinion, thoughts or beliefs and that's fine but if someone disagrees or questions you they're a sheep wandering into the path of damnation, I'll blissfully wander into that path of damnation and take whats coming if that's alright with you as I don't concern myself with it all I find not watching or reading the news helps, I could cross the street and get hit by a bus tomorrow life's too short to stress it, do yourself favor go and sit with a rod in your hand for a while "either one" your choice It's a great stress relief for me you never know you might just start to wind down a bit as I honestly feel you might end up sectioned such is my concern.
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