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   Old Thread  #1720 31 Jul 2021 at 12.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No vaccine is ! But on a brighter note my Pfizer shares have skyrocketed. Keep on rolling up those sleeves sheeple I mean people 😉
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   Old Thread  #1719 31 Jul 2021 at 12.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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factor in that there are simply more vaccinated people and nearly all the people expected to die i.e. the most vulnerable are double jabbed (and there's only actually 12 in the number) then yes very good odds. Also no one ever said the vaccines were 100% effective 😉
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   Old Thread  #1718 31 Jul 2021 at 12.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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19 vaccinated compared to 27 cracking odds 😂
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   Old Thread  #1717 31 Jul 2021 at 12.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Awwwww

Perhaps you could get yourselves some 'The unvaccinated are people too' wristbands?

FFS, how many pubs exactly can't you go in? Where else are you banned from today? Almost nowhere by any chance?Yet you both think you're Rosa Parks.
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   Old Thread  #1716 31 Jul 2021 at 12.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some good evidence of the vaccines effectiveness there clanger, thanks for sharing.
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   Old Thread  #1715 31 Jul 2021 at 12.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you're right Wayne, nothing should be mandated unless shown 100% effective, think of all the red tape, legislation, licencing etc that could be scrapped.
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   Old Thread  #1714 31 Jul 2021 at 12.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I hoping that this will set a precedent so rapists & paedophilies child murderers also have to carry paperwork to be allowed into situations where women & children are present but thatís against their human rights seems as if Rapists & nonces have more rights than someone who die have a vaccine in fact isnít it the case that some have even been given new identities anonymity so they are free to roam amongst us 🤷‍♂️
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   Old Thread  #1713 31 Jul 2021 at 12.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tom, if it stopped it completely I could understand the stance but it doesnít so cannot understand the stance!

Itís very simple, like I say itís a dangerous precedent thatís being set!
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   Old Thread  #1712 31 Jul 2021 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wayne you regularly fall back to this mantra of vaccines don't stop you spreading it, no they don't completely but all the data so far shows that they reduce transmission, here's a proper study for you showing a 78% reduction for vaccinated people vs non vaccinated infected and then spreading it...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.12.21260377v1

Stop pretending it doesn't make a difference.
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   Old Thread  #1711 31 Jul 2021 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Problem is Mark, it should not cause any problem at all, can you not see your ďchoiceĒ is being removed!! The problem here is that the people who have been conned into taking the vaccine won't want to come out and admit they've been conned.

Nobody likes to admit that they've been done over. It's an embarrassing experience. So, instead they go full opposite and bash hard on those who have even a little bit of self awareness.

So many people have been suckered into the habit of not being able to think before being told. When the government says jump they say how high. Listening to these people and the perfectly echoed news sound bytes they churn out is to me more terrifying than covid ever could be.

What has protected the unvaccinated thus far? T-Cell response and natural immune system. Who would have thought that we could (if healthy) actually deal with this ourselves without intervention or vaccination. Shock horror.

The vulnerable should absolutely take this vaccine if it reduces the risk of death. But everyone else? It's a nasty coercive game the government is playing stripping people of bodily autonomy so they can have two weeks on holiday.

This whole situation goes against the UNESCO - Universal declaration on bioethics and human rights. (Article 6)

"Article 6 Ė Consent
1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice."

Without disadvantage or prejudice. That's not going well so far, is it?

It's a disgusting situation we find ourselves in and anyone who is against someone's right to decide not to vaccinate against Covid19 should be deeply ashamed.
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   Old Thread  #1710 31 Jul 2021 at 12.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The data from Public Health England looked at attendance to emergency care and deaths by vaccination status among delta confirmed cases in England, between February 1 and June 7, 2021.

It showed that of the 42 people who had died from the delta variant (that were confirmed) 12 of them had received two doses of a vaccine over two weeks before. Some 23 of the people who died were unvaccinated and seven had been given one dose of the vaccine over three weeks before they died.

Perhaps the 3rd jab is the doozy
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   Old Thread  #1709 31 Jul 2021 at 12.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You are making a decision, that you know full well is going to cause you a lot of trouble. Not just you, but your family too. You made that decision on your beliefs. Your beliefs that differ to the vast majority. As Jon said, it's harsh Wayne... But it's a decision you are making with full disclosure of what is to come.

You can't whinge about it when you already know what's coming. It's your choice.

Gloves off? All the doctors of the world, the nurses, the front line medical staff. They are not liars as would have to be the case if you anti vaxers were right. They are not all in on some conspiracy to kill you and your babies as you are implying, with your absolute crazy talk. You're not only risking your own lives, you're also risking your families lives too. On what? The info from some crazy websites?

There's no other word except lunatics.

Stop being so stupid and go get the vaccine you Joeys. Carry on your fun and games for all I care in public, but in secret, go protect yourselves and your family. xxx

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   Old Thread  #1708 31 Jul 2021 at 12.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You do know the lowest take up of vaccines is in BAME community so the Race card will be played like it or not !!
Not to worry your booster jab is being manufactured ASAP 😂
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   Old Thread  #1707 31 Jul 2021 at 11.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And here lies the problem Jon which you are clearly part of with statements like that and feeling all warm and smug with yourself!

Donít give me that rubbish you canít choose this or that........itís discrimination, end of! Vaccine for entering a country is one thing, going to a pub is something completely different!

This **** is what fuels the likes of dean etc and is only going to get worse.......who suffers, everyone!

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   Old Thread  #1706 31 Jul 2021 at 11.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But don't expect people to want to be around you mate. For the good of my family, I personally do not want to go anywhere in an indoor situation, with lots of people that are unvaccinated. That's the truth.

Why? You have had your Jabs, your protected so why worry about others who donít want to disclose their medical history to some pompous landlord!

I fail to see any argument thatís itís not discrimination, it simply is end of. I watched a video this morning about a pub thatís gone down the double Jab route and he has had to close because people who are not vaccinated are turning up and itís kicking off at the door! Iím pretty sure this is going to get much worse and for what? Division again!

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