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   Old Thread  #3354 17 Sept 2021 at 10.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A quick update. Straight from a horses mouth as such. This is from the south of England.

Numbers are slowly creeping upwards, but still very low currently. Around approx 80-85% of Covid patients my son and his base are taking to hospital currently, are unvaccinated. That number is incredibly high, when you consider more than 4 out of 5 adults are fully vaccinated.

Worryingly, he had his first incredibly sick baby this week. 6 months old and very ill with Covid.
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   Old Thread  #3353 16 Sept 2021 at 7.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You do realise that if you catch covid in hospital you've still actually got it?
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   Old Thread  #3352 16 Sept 2021 at 6.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3351 16 Sept 2021 at 5.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3350 16 Sept 2021 at 12.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Out of interest any of you DJís suffering from enlarged testicles 🥜 😂
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   Old Thread  #3349 16 Sept 2021 at 9.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The only way we will see the real impact is in hindsight.
Figures can prove all sorts when you filter your search criteria. Just like theyíll prove people who were furloughed yet went out and caught/transmitted the virus are partially responsible for every man, woman and child who die from a missed cancer diagnosis.
Because people spread this, not Boris and his mates
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   Old Thread  #3348 16 Sept 2021 at 9.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3347 16 Sept 2021 at 8.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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quote -Think that works both ways as well. Admitted to hospital for broken leg, Catch covid once there and added to cases in hospital.....Be interesting to know the ages of the 30k......

That's what I'm saying Wayne, he doesn't believe covid deaths figs/Hospitalisations because they DO include all other things, but he does believe Vax death figures even though they too include all other things
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   Old Thread  #3346 16 Sept 2021 at 8.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What the silly c*nt doesn't realise is he is showing me total deaths between Jan and June, which shows 30k had at least one jab. Of course they could have died of natural causes, basis we jabbed those aged 90+ first, in car crash, cancer, suicide etc.

Think that works both ways as well. Admitted to hospital for broken leg, tests positive for CV and is then added to cases in / admitted to hospital.....Be interesting to know the ages of the 30k......

In other other news i have Just seen an estimated 70,000 care workers are going to be dismissed due to mandatory vaccination in the sector.........I do hope some challenge this mentality in the courts and win opening the gates for mass discrimination cases to proceed......
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   Old Thread  #3345 16 Sept 2021 at 8.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
In other news my anti vax mate is telling me this morning over 30k have died in the UK of the vaccine, he even has ONS figures to prove it.

What the silly c*nt doesn't realise is he is showing me total deaths between Jan and June, which shows 30k had at least one jab. Of course they could have died of natural causes, basis we jabbed those aged 90+ first, in car crash, cancer, suicide etc.

Its strange cause he doesn't believe the Covid death figures are as high, and for the last 18 months has said they could have died of natural causes, in car crash, cancer, suicide etc.
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   Old Thread  #3344 16 Sept 2021 at 8.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some other points from the same story as Wayne's

- Other vaccines, such as HPV or human papillomavirus, have also been linked to similar menstrual changes

-Dr Victoria Male, from Imperial College London, said the body's immune response was the likely cause, not something in the vaccines

-Dr Jo Mountfield, vice-president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG), said changes to periods could be concerning, but generally lasted only one or two cycles.
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   Old Thread  #3343 16 Sept 2021 at 6.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Had a look at the BBC this morning and 30,000 women complaining about there menstrual cycle being ****ed up now and unexplainable bleeding after the jab.......remember though it has zero impact on fertility etc as the trials over the last 8 months have proved.......
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   Old Thread  #3342 15 Sept 2021 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You see

If you are a good person and you try hard and you pray hard enough, occasionally the universe listens...

I do find it funny that no matter how many times Boris 'shuffles his pack' he always ends up with a bunch of jokers....

Thanks. Im here all week.
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   Old Thread  #3341 15 Sept 2021 at 2.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It should brighten the day of anyone in the UK with school aged kids.
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   Old Thread  #3340 15 Sept 2021 at 1.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Looks like GW is getting the boot Mal.......should brighten your day.....
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   Old Thread  #3339 15 Sept 2021 at 9.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mandatory my arse! Apparently there is 5 million still unvaccinated .....I bet itís more......

You sound like a spokesman for the National Association of Undertakers and Funeral Directors.
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   Old Thread  #3338 15 Sept 2021 at 7.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Mandatory my arse! Apparently there is 5 million still unvaccinated .....I bet itís more......
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   Old Thread  #3337 14 Sept 2021 at 7.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It escalated quite rapidly for the NHS care workers etc !! One minute theyíre heroís next minute get the jab or lose your job 😂
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   Old Thread  #3336 14 Sept 2021 at 7.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I recon mandatory vaccinations, are just around the corner. Won't be long Wayne
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   Old Thread  #3335 14 Sept 2021 at 7.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Be dead from the start reading it backwards......
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   Old Thread  #3334 14 Sept 2021 at 6.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Whatever our views on the vaccine good / bad or indifferent at least with it things are slowly getting back to normal albeit with a few bumps in the road.
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   Old Thread  #3333 14 Sept 2021 at 3.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh Christ.. donít drag me into an internet chat room debate on irony, itís usually the sign of a moron when somebody signs off a statement with.. ironically.
Not aimed at you, Iím talking about past encounters Iíve seen/read.
I donít really see how anybody could have an argument over the suggestion we no longer have any arguments Ffs you canít win
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   Old Thread  #3332 14 Sept 2021 at 2.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you choose to spend your life causing division and belittling those who are white/vote Tory/voted brexit/had a vaccine/didnít have a vaccine/voted remain/vote Tongan blind lesbian socialist party/are brown etc.... do the world a favour and jump under a train

Read your post again Jon backwards, you just done exactly that, ironically.

You don't know what to do, like the rest of us.
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   Old Thread  #3331 14 Sept 2021 at 10.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ive had the jab, i did it for my self and also to make a small step in getting all of us our lives back

My 14 year old daughter will not be having be having the jab, she's had covid so has the antibodies, she doesnt need to have the jab
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   Old Thread  #3330 14 Sept 2021 at 8.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3329 14 Sept 2021 at 7.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Theyíve also now started giving the % of people vaccinated of the whole population rather than just adults, because when we hit 80-90% (the target they set in press conferences early on and set by Australia recently to allow reopening) it was essentially as over as itís getting. We will never be in a better position than when immunity was at itís peak, thereís no disputing that protection decreases over time.
You also canít dispute that if we administer these jabs periodically to every person for the foreseeable future there will be horrific consequences.
Made me shudder when they said itís was safe for pregnant women to have the jab, based on what? Research over a single term of pregnancies and minimal child developmental stages?
Iím not saying thereís proof itís harming anyone at a worrying rate the same as there is insufficient evidence the other way, so to say they are monitoring it is fairer than to say it is safe.. how would you feel if a partner was vaccinated and something terrible happened to a baby?
Or your child was vaccinated at school because his/her mates did it and had a life changing/ending reaction?
For every heart wrenching tale of loss from covid there are counter stories of medical complications, missed diagnoses, mental and physical breakdowns. Old people didnít just die alone in hospital in the last year or so; some starved or froze to death, others stumbled and had nobody to answer their cries for help so died in a pool of their own bodily fluids. Financial ruin, suicides, violent demonstrations.. we had it all and some.
Youíve had your jabs, come out of your shell and be a man ffs
Rubber gloves and ****ing masks Iím still seeing on people that are clearly vaccinated.
You canít tell if a tyre still has a puncture unless you inflate it, so donít take the moral high ground because youíve had a jab and then leave it to kids and manual workers to put the Ďscienceí to the test with exposure.
Iím as other people have claimed to be, pro choice.. I choose to leave the house and earn my pittance, others choose to inject synthetic viruses into themselves and try not to revisit their place of work again. We need to respect each otherís decision and move on, Iím pro that.
If you choose to spend your life causing division and belittling those who are white/vote Tory/voted brexit/had a vaccine/didnít have a vaccine/voted remain/vote Tongan blind lesbian socialist party/are brown etc.... do the world a favour and jump under a train

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   Old Thread  #3328 14 Sept 2021 at 7.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz admitted that vaccine passports were primarily about coercing skeptical people to get the vaccine.

Nothing to see here......Move along.....
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   Old Thread  #3327 14 Sept 2021 at 6.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís the reason theyíre only being offered a single Jab because of possible complications 🤷‍♂️
Just like the ďmandatoryĒvaccine in the States surprisingly not for Politicians tho 😉

Meanwhile in Israel

Unaware that he was on hot mic ó Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz admitted that vaccine passports were primarily about coercing skeptical people to get the vaccine.

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   Old Thread  #3326 14 Sept 2021 at 6.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Allowing 12-15 year olds to have the final say on their vaccination is a great idea

Why stop there, may as well let the kids do as they please from now on.....Sex, drugs and rock and roll.......
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   Old Thread  #3325 14 Sept 2021 at 5.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Allowing 12-15 year olds to have the final say on their vaccination is a great idea.
I mean, we all knew everything at that age and never gave into peer pressure even if it went against what we knew to be safe.
Itís a shame they canít inject cojones, because that 80+ % of the Ďprotectedí (which was supposedly sufficient for community antibodies) seem awfully uncertain of the vaccineís efficacy. 3 times less likely to become infected, 90 odd % reduction in hospitalisation etc.
And yet we are going to vaccinate our children to protect the few who unfortunately have health issues beyond their control, then the fat ****s who live on turkey twizzlers, Benson & hedges and cola.
Itís ok though because the kids who develop clots and heart inflammation will conveniently have contracted the virus at the same time as getting the vaccine, as was the case with the story Mal posted a while back; jab, test positive, hospitalised with blood clots... yeah ok
If I had just the one child and they died or were left in a vegetative state from complications with a vaccine forced on them by wfh ****ers Iíd have a nationwide anthrax ridden leaflet drop and feed Chris whitty to his own family the ****.
Plus if weíre locked down again mrmoo will be doing a Michael Douglas in falling down in the leafy towns of kent.
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   Old Thread  #3324 13 Sept 2021 at 10.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3323 13 Sept 2021 at 9.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I heard the same from an expert in Droitwich.

My Worcestershire sauce.
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   Old Thread  #3322 13 Sept 2021 at 9.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Too bloody right.
Iíll go and sneeze through their letterboxes.. thatíll get the ****s out
Got coughed on by an obese sweaty waste of vaccine today who pulled his mask down.. to cough!?! In the bank.. the cctv will be interesting, I had to go to another branch
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   Old Thread  #3321 13 Sept 2021 at 8.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you missed my pun...
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   Old Thread  #3320 13 Sept 2021 at 7.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's called living with it.
People need to go back to work rather than sit on their arses furloughed. Ask Noj.
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   Old Thread  #3319 13 Sept 2021 at 6.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good in it, how do you integrate them into teams where one person has had one jab and waiting for the next one or somebody has had none, answer, dynamic risk assessment, real answer make them isolate at work, loan working, what a ****ing carry on, or you could even just let them crack on

Another **** up, total confusion
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   Old Thread  #3318 13 Sept 2021 at 6.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i heard that too....



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   Old Thread  #3317 13 Sept 2021 at 5.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Being able to get out of the house and leave her at home seems a good reason to get double jabbed.
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Well, previously telling people to stop at home and isolate for 10 days and donít come to work, now telling them that even though their partner is positive they must come to work if they are double jabbed, what a ****ing joke

Heard immunity wins all along
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   Old Thread  #3315 12 Sept 2021 at 6.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hopefully they get independence and need an international passport to get in, not just a vaccine passport. At least until that little horrible Jimmy krankie **** is gone
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   Old Thread  #3314 12 Sept 2021 at 4.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Glasgow.......completed it.......been to harder youth clubs and been fine.......
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   Old Thread  #3313 12 Sept 2021 at 11.18am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I just saw that one too - and of course thought of you Wayne.

still going ahead with it in Scotland so far though. Although the risk to you being in a nightclub in Glasgow has little to do with Covid....

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   Old Thread  #3312 12 Sept 2021 at 10.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Common sense finally prevails as SJ announces Covid passports will be ditched for nightclubs etc......
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   Old Thread  #3311 8 Sept 2021 at 7.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No what I said was that in all vaccine history you will most likely see a negative reaction within 3 months of having any jab.

Basis we jabbed the elderly and most frail whose bodyís immune system is the weakest due to their age and we havnt seen anyone growing extra limbs or what ever effect the vaccine would cause itís pretty safe to say that there wonít be effects in 5/10/15 years. Another point is when a vaccine is tested it is done so on a tiny test sample which takes a lot longer to test. This one was tested, luckily for all of us as we wouldnít be living life like we are at the moment, on a massive scale therefore takes less time to trial

Like I said to Wayne. Itís everyoneís personal choice, one of the factors of me having a jab was to make my life easier when going abroad. And Iíve read today I could have ďsuperhuman immunityĒ basis Iíve had covid and the jab
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   Old Thread  #3310 8 Sept 2021 at 5.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím not scared of the jab mate just donít want it as simple as that like you said personal choice!! I couldnít give a rats arse if anyone has had the vaccine or not ! Iím not telling anyone to not have it unlike others on here who are telling others to have it !!
Like I said Iíll give it a while & see how it pans out !! Natural immunity is as good as the jab according to the latest Israeli study 🤷‍♂️
As for the studying of Covid that isnít what you said was it something about 3 months & vaccine side affects 😉
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   Old Thread  #3309 8 Sept 2021 at 3.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You get my point though about seatbelts Wayne..

And imagine the death rate with COVID if TB hadn't been eradicated as you said earlier. It was eradicated by a vaccine, when science was a lot younger!

I do agree with you about this passport crap too though. I wouldn't be going abroad anywhere with a global pandemic and over-worked health systems......
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   Old Thread  #3308 8 Sept 2021 at 2.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Funny how the rubber heads bleat out stats like "98.8% survival rate" for British citizens as if it's nothing to be arsed about.
Iirc as a British citizen in WW2 you had a survival rate of 97.2%. Not far off comparability.
That was deemed a catastrophic loss of life that needed stopping as quickly as possible, and is rightly commemorated often in this country.
Clearly people had more gumption about them back then to make sacrifices for the greater good than the vocal selfish wretches with a me first and last attitude that populate these island's today.
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   Old Thread  #3307 8 Sept 2021 at 1.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im 100% with you on the passport crap etc
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Correct Not.......Done me know harm at all.......Good job it was tested for a few years before being rolled out to ALL cars...........

Have the Vaccine, Dont have the vaccine......My issue is the passport crap and laws that they say are for our benefit yet the science / evidence says different.......
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Fairly close friend of mine is well over 6 ft, built like a brick outhouse, strong for his size, not afraid of anyone or anything apart from having a jab.
Under pressure from friends he decided to have it but only got so far as the queue then chickened out. My mates misses wasnít having that so she took him in and made sure he went through with it on his second visit.
When it came to the needle he pulled his shirt over his head so he couldnít see it coming. Had everyone there in stitches.
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Wayne, you say you have more chance of dying in a car accident, I bet all my fishing tackle you wear a seatbelt though.
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   Old Thread  #3303 8 Sept 2021 at 9.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nothing wrong with being cautious mate

its your personal choice
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I wonít have the jab for at least another 2yrs, not because Iím scared but because Iím being cautious and want to see the longer term affects of it.

Your right coronaviruses has been studied for years but not this one.......
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   Old Thread  #3301 8 Sept 2021 at 8.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Coronaviruses have been studied for over 40 years mate. What do you think causes the common cold, MERS, SARS etc. research and development has been going on for decades

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

I couldn't give two fcks if you or anyone else has the vaccine, but its a bit ironic you say some people are living in fear yet you are a bit scared to have the jab, or are you just being cautious for now until you know more?

If its the cautious side then what the difference between you being cautious about the jab and other people being cautious about covid

Out of interest will you have the jab at some point?
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   Old Thread  #3300 8 Sept 2021 at 8.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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quote - Ben, Iím sure 10s of thousands of unvaxxed will still be here.

I never said they wouldn't Wayne. I was just replying to Clanger re the guinea pig comment.
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   Old Thread  #3299 8 Sept 2021 at 7.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not a good look when people with 3 Pfizer shots are getting sick and your scientists are saying moderna is actually the one best suited to the delta variant
In reality, unintentionally Iím sure, there has been just as much misinformation for the vaccine as there has been against it.
There wonít be just double jabbing, it will be up to date vaccination status. I donít want to go moo or anything, but the vaccines can and do kill people.. are we honestly ok with booster shots every 6-12 months?
Is it that the disease is that virulent or that the vaccine (like flu) just isnít the solution in the long term?
Iím not buying that itís mutating to kill kids and evade vaccines without encountering them to begin with, we **** most things up as a species and this is no different. Covid was distributed globally by corruption, stupidity and ignorance so to be completely honest I think we deserve it.
It also doesnít help that I live in an area where nobody uses a mask with worse figures than some of those Indian towns where people were dying in rickshaws in the street, yet donít know anybody who even knows anybody that has died from covid or been hospitalised. People have died, from terminal cancer or ongoing heart issues, but not a single covid death.... or vaccine death obviously
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   Old Thread  #3298 8 Sept 2021 at 6.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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3 months yeah probably why vaccines are tested for 5/15 yrs 😂

Sounds like youíre not up to date with the latest study from Israel 😉
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   Old Thread  #3297 8 Sept 2021 at 4.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I imagine they havenít had CV Mark as they have had the correct FPP3 masks and not the crappy paper ones the rest of us were made to wear.......

Also, Stop comparing SF Mark.........it was 100yrs ago when life expectancy amongst men and women was 50yrs of age and Tuberculosis was rife amongst the population already which made SF far more deadly and is totally irrelavent to the here and now like you keep saying to me.

Ben, Iím sure 10s of thousands of unvaxxed will still be here......Big C stop using stats, they donít mean ****......
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   Old Thread  #3296 7 Sept 2021 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Us guinea pigs will still be here in a year. Nearly all vaccines will show an effect/reaction within 3 months of having them not 5 years down the line like a lot of people think

Sounds like your the one thatís a bit scared of a few fear mongering stories
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   Old Thread  #3295 7 Sept 2021 at 6.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My life is totally normal & Iím not living in fear either!!
My wife is an ICU nurse & im well aware of what Covid victims go through if theyíre ventilated as Iíve said before il give it a year or so & see how you Guinea pigs are fairing before I commit 💉
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   Old Thread  #3294 7 Sept 2021 at 6.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just go get a vaccine you Joey. My life is totally normal. Iím fishing right now. Online deliveries, petrol paid at pump. Not been away this year, thatís the difference in my life.

Things are clearly sprouting back up again. Both you and Noj should take that message I posted on the good faith it was intended. Those ambulances were all filled with unvaccinated people. None were old. All requiring hospital admission. Within three days talk of new lockdown. That was ovbs not just happening where he was working. Read what Oldcornishman wrote about the Devon hospital. Unvaccinated.

Hopefully you see it yourself soon.
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   Old Thread  #3293 7 Sept 2021 at 6.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who said it was made up ? Iíve only got to come on here everyday to see you ****ting your skids to prove that 😂
If Iíd had it Iíd admit to it just the same as I admit to not having it 🤷‍♂️
7 million confirmed cases in the uk out of a population of 68 million 98.8% survival rate !!
If you listen to the daily fear porn youíll become scared of your own shadow!
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Covid is real Clanger. Itís not a made up thing for the government to get one over on us. Itís real. Not just here, every where, worldwide.

All viruses have their own way of killing. Spanish Flu also killed by drowning in air like Covid. It must literally be the most horrific long winded way to die. Everything about Covid so far has mirrored SF. The whole time scale of mutations is identical. All of it is. It was October November & December coming when SF mutated to kill in 24 hrs, and wiped out up to 100 million people. Yeah itís not SF but itís damn well similar.

Go and get vaccinated mate. Donít need to admit it on here. Just do it to protect yourself. I hope Wayne and the others do the same. Iíd rather die than know one of my loved ones died that way.

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   Old Thread  #3291 7 Sept 2021 at 6.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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With the number of cases being reported vs the percentage of willingly unvaccinated, infants and the medically exempt; a time has to come where theyíve all had it and it goes away if the vaccine is the answer? Itís being spread and caught by everybody, arguably more dangerously when it can pass hosts asymptotically... as was the case when testing was non existent and the vulnerable took a hit.
Israel are gearing up for the 4th shot I believe. How is the world going to keep that up?
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Another lockdown has been on the cards for a while why do you think the Government want to extend the Covid emergency law!! Annual occurrence just like your twice yearly booster 💉
Get used to it ainít going to be over anytime soon !
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Just been on the radio, if Covid numbers carry on rising we are heading for another lockdown. This is a reaction to what Cornishcarper posted and what I posted about my son over the weekend at work. First talk of a new lock down Iíve heard.

Generally that means one is already on the way.

4 out of 5 over 16s are now vaccinated in the uk. If I was unvaccinated and read a message from a serving paramedic like that Iíd be worried personally.
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Now I have a question for you please Wayne? How have my son and daughter-in-law who are both paramedics dealing with the virus everydayÖ Neither have caught the virus. Youíve had it twice. So at a guess youíve caught it every single time youíve been near the virusÖ Yet they have been near the same virus every single day. Many thousands of times. Neither have ever had it.

You call masks muzzlesÖ And talk of covid like itís the common cold.

Do you see a link here Wayne? I do.
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Thatís the full message from my son, I cropped it before. I asked him if he was okay, as Iíd not heard from him since the night before when they were stacked. He was telling me he was okay, then who was in those ambulances. It was the talk of the paramedics attending that they were all younger unvaccinated patients. That was sat night. Iíve not heard from him since we spoke after this message Sunday morning. Do you see where he says that every covid patient they are attending now is unvaccinated? Argue as much as you want Wayne.

The last line is what people in the NHS really think about people, who seem to think that they know better than medical science from reading the tinternet. You will not see that on your tv programs Wayne. Told you before when your child becomes a paramedic you are going to find out the harsh truth about a lot of things.


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   Old Thread  #3286 7 Sept 2021 at 4.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ok forget data for one minute Mark........I have more chance of dying from a car accident than Covid......you too no doubt but you seem convinced that ANYONE unvaccinated is going to die from Covid if they catch it......why is that?

Right now, right this minute vaccinated people are dying.......yes unvaccinated too but the common theme is the age group of those dying.....it certainly ainít kids and it ainít many under 60.

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QuoteÖ Derriford hospital declared an internal critical incident on Monday 23rd August. They had to reassign wards to cope with the extra COVID patients.
I heard that only a small percentage of their serious cases had been vaccinated. When you consider that about 80% of the uk population have been jabbed then that makes that small percentage even lower as a proportion of the total population. There have been appeals from hospital management for people to get vaccinated to avoid them being overwhelmed. Wonder why?

That is not where my son was the other night. But he was on the south coast. Heíd been sent to a different area to help out. Your area and all along the south coast would seem to be suffering very badly mate.
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Then donít insinuate that people are embellishing the truth Wayne. You done it before to when you told me youíd wait to see what youíd hear when your daughter became a paramedicÖ Implying whatever. I never said a word. Second time I will say something thanks. I donít lie. I have zero reason too.

Youíre clutching onto your data and keep searching the internet to back up your claim. You can get whatever point of view you like agreed with online, about whatever.

When children first got sickÖ You denied that too because your Ďdataí was telling you different. You told me and Mal over and over about your data despite what we were telling you. You donít learn do you. Data is in the past. You need to be worrying about what is happening right now. The fact you had the virus and recovered means nothing. The data from 3 months ago means nothing. Itís just the Ďhistoryí of events, what is happening right Ďnowí is what matters.

When you are drowning in the airÖ Yes drowning in the air Wayne as thatís how you die from CovidÖ You can grip tightly onto your data. I really hope it brings you some relief.

You and people like you are the exact reason that the UK is pretty much the worst affected nation on this planet to the virus. Itís not even mutated into something really nasty yet. God help us when and if it does with people who act like yourself.

The internet has a lot to answer for in all this.
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All about the Mu variant the Delta is so yesterday 🦠
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I was not going to reply but hey ho.....

I donít think you are lying or your son Mark, I think things can get generalised and changed to suit thatís all. Yes I imagine paramedics sit outside a hospital and talk but it must be the only one in the UK that had a queue formed all under 50 and all unvaccinated, yet everything Iím reading from reliable Government resources is not saying that.

I actually think your scared to death about this Virus, why is that when the evidence shows your very low risk unless of course you have an underlying health issue. Try and keep it clean rather than throwing the insults as that doesnít do anything.

As for my daughter, itís up to her to get vaccinated to get a paramedic Job but Iím sure there is plenty already leaving and a U turn will be performed by the government to retain / employ new staff and stop the NHS really falling apart......bit like the care home fiasco thatís looming!


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Now itís going to be made compulsory for all NHS staff to be double vaccinated. So your daughter will be getting the jab Wayne, or she will not be allowed to be a paramedic.
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You donít think paramedics in ambulances stacked outside a hospital all night in an emergency situation talk to each other? Two per ambulance, one will normally always be outside in that scenario. All colleagues, but they donít talk to each other then right? So Iím lying, or my son is lying right?

Youíre a ****ing idiot Wayne. I was actually trying to help you. And you think Iím lying to you to prove a point? **** you, let natural selection take care of you.
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I always thought 24hrs in A&E was a realistic unscripted view of a paramedics life.....you know real patients etc. itís not reality TV or Media is it.

I have dismissed it as I donít believe Marks son walked to every ambulance asking the patients age, if they are vaccinated, perhaps itís a bit of a generalisation rather than fact.

MSM reporting is shocking and biased.

Anyway, Iím done with vaccines and vaccine threads......unless of course Iím dragged back into it.......
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Do you realise you've dismissed what mark has said, information he got from his son 1st hand on the scene.

And you have quoted "24h in a and e" as if a reality TV show is a more reliable source

And then gone on to say how everyone is manipulated by Media

Do you see the irony in your own post. Youve got ypur opinions from reality Tv
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   Old Thread  #3277 6 Sept 2021 at 6.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím sure I said the vaccine is working well.......but Iím also saying their being hospitalised which others are trying to say is not happening......it is.....
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Wayne have you even read this article yourself? It literally argues against pretty much everything you've ve said in this thread and explains how well the vaccine works. What point exactly were you trying to prove by posting it?
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Wayne. Am i reading your article right.

Ive just looked else where and it seems and 28% of the population haven't had a first jab yet. But unvaxinated people are making up 45% of the deaths?
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Nightingales wernt used not because they wasnít needed, it was because there wasnít enough staff

Oh right, or it was simply a scaremongering exercise.

BMJ Blog

Have a read.......the vaccine is reducing deaths but not less vaccinated being hospitalised......why......for the 100th time because itís the older generation still making up the numbers!!!
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Exactly that

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Derriford hospital declared an internal critical incident on Monday 23rd August. They had to reassign wards to cope with the extra COVID patients.
I heard that only a small percentage of their serious cases had been vaccinated. When you consider that about 80% of the uk population have been jabbed then that makes that small percentage even lower as a proportion of the total population.

There have been appeals from hospital management for people to get vaccinated to avoid them being overwhelmed. Wonder why?

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Nightingales wernt used not because they wasnít needed, it was because there wasnít enough staff. We could create 1000s of extra hospital beds wherever we like but you still need at a guess 2 nurses/doctors per bed, thatís somthing you canít create with a bit of extra space

Stupid crowd pleasing exercise by the government thatís all the nightingales were, oh and a waste of money
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Sorry mark but I cannot agree with you. The daily stats show thatís simply not the case and when you say its all under 50s and all not vaccinated Iím sorry but you or your son simply canít know that and itís something I do not believe because the GOV figures do not show that. I have been watching 24hrs in A&E and people were calling for ambulances when they had a minor constant cough and fever from Covid, no doubt they thought they were going to die after listening to the vaccinated doom mongers, FB fake news and MSM hysteria for the last 18 months! My Mrs was far far worse than ANY patient they showed and I have seen yet she battled through with pneumonia steroids and has recovered again with no vaccine in her body.

I said 3 weeks ago that deaths would remain relatively flat, hospitalised patients would still be made up by a majority over 65 including the vaccinated and the ONS is showing exactly that so thatís who I would have to believe every time. Last year we kept hearing the NHS was close to collapse for each wave yet the mass nightingale hospitals created stood empty.......go figure!

The fact I have had Covid and am not vaccinated simply means I can speak of the experience, I donít need to be a doctor to KNOW how that feels like and then share my experience.

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I don't have any experience Wayne, and I don't profess to either. I'm sharing information with you, direct from a paramedic on the front line.

Last night in context, was worse than when I spoke about on here that they called in the army back in April. Back then, we were apparently a hairs breath away from a state of emergency being declared. There were more ambulances stacked in that particular area last night. Every single patient was unvaccinated and requiring hospitalisation. In April it was old people. Last night there was no one over 50. The area has been spoken about on here in recent weeks. Now they are ending up in hospital.

If you cannot deduct from that... The information that you need too, good luck to you and your experience Dr Wayne, you are going to need it.

I warned you six weeks ago, when restrictions were being lifted that I was told they were going to let it rip, the vulnerable & sensible were all double vaccinated... You laughed at me and thought I was having you over I think.

Last night was the first clear sign of what is coming. You really should wake up.
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I suppose we can only go on our own experience Mark, no one is right or wrong in that respect.......
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Quote... The kids are fine hence why no serious cases and plenty of vaccinated being admitted to hospital too donít forget.

You have no clue how many young people or children were in those ambulances last night. I do. ALL of them were unvaccinated. ALL OF THEM.

The kids are fine are they Wayne?

I give up Wayne. You know best mate, it's pointless even trying to talk to you about it. xxx
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Think that was Dean who wasnít convinced about Delta.....

The kids are fine hence why no serious cases and plenty of vaccinated being admitted to hospital too donít forget......
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Dean, Jon, Wayne, Clanger, anyone else reading this who did not get a vaccine yet, for whatever reasons. PLEASE, read that message from my son again. Read what I wrote last night again.

That what was happening last night was bad, it is not going to be localised.

Please go and protect yourselves and your families before that option becomes too late. It ain't about an internet argument, it ain't about who is right or wrong. It's about yours and your loved ones lives.
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You posted 'they never shut the schools in france'

They did. For the equivalent of a whole term.

And obviously the other information is about current status. All contradictory to what you appear to support.
Simply pointing out your error and then letting you know what's really happening in French schools right now.
Wouldn't want the forum to be spreading misinformation would we?
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The message twenty mins ago that made me call him, just in case anyone does not believe me.
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I only spoke very briefly to my son last night whilst he was puffing on a vape... He had to go and our conversation was cut short.

I just spoke to him again for longer. He was outside that hospital until 1am. Stacked ambulances, all with unvaccinated covid patients on board. Read that again.... All with unvaccinated covid patients on board.

That is shocking.
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   Old Thread  #3261 5 Sept 2021 at 11.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Nothing to suggest a worse mutation Wayne? Not long ago on here, people on here were denying a Delta variant even existed, and were spouting the virus did not affect young people or kids....
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   Old Thread  #3260 5 Sept 2021 at 11.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only 2 times Mark but the second time with Delta no doubt but wasnít as bad as the first time in January......

Mutations may or may not be worse but there is nothing to suggest a worse mutation than Delta yet!
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   Old Thread  #3259 5 Sept 2021 at 10.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What long term data do you want? After two months there just arenít any side-effects from vaccines, they do their job, give you the antibodies you need and then they are gone. The technology behind the mRNA and viral vector vaccines has been around for years and has been well studied. I havenít found any vaccine that has been found to caused problems outside of the two months regularly cited and definitely none that have done so years or decades down the line. The contraindications will not change, if they do Iíll eat my mask, or a mask that you can pull from a bin outside a hospital.

Do you think that those of us that understand that the vaccines are probably the best way out of this pandemic do not look for evidence of their safety? I have read more about this pandemic, vaccines and treatments in the last eighteen months than I have any other subject in my life. I donít pretend to understand all of it but the abstract of a paper will normally be accessible and there are some very good science writers and journalists out there.

Itís up to you, if you are happy to trust people who seem happy to stand with Right Said Fred and donít think this hugely diminishes their arguments then fine. Donít expect the rest of us to take anything you say seriously.

This is a new, highly infectious disease that has the capacity to make large numbers of people very sick for long periods of time. Some will die. These very sick patients require medical care that canít just be pulled out of a hat, if we are to live with it we need far more hospital beds and staff to cope. Vaccines massively reduce the amount of people getting very sick and the number of deaths.

Pull on your big boy pants, roll up your sleeve and do something useful for yourself and all the rest of us.
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Quote... This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant,Ē the researchers said.

Yet Wayne says he has had it numerous times, my ex wife (NHS) has also had it twice. Second time requiring hospitalisation.
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That whole statement Clanger, gives no thought whatsoever to future mutations. It's mutating, that's why the circumstances are changing. When it mutates into something deadly we are all ****ed.

That's the bottom line.

It's a mutating virus. The mutations are clearly getting worse. Studies of what happened over the past however long don't really matter do they? They don't have a clue mate. No one does.
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   Old Thread  #3256 5 Sept 2021 at 9.46am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Latest Israeli study Tel Aviv university Ashdod University Hospital 27//8/21

Prognosis
Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot

People who recovered from a bout of Covid-19 during one of the earlier waves of the pandemic appear to have a lower risk of contracting the delta variant than those who got two doses of the vaccine from Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE.

The largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity -- gained from an earlier infection -- to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use showed that reinfections were much less common. The paper from researchers in Israel contrasts with earlier studies, which showed that immunizations offered better protection than an earlier infection, though those studies were not of the delta variant.
The results are good news for patients who already successfully battled Covid-19, but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic. People given both doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were almost six-fold more likely to contract a delta infection and seven-fold more likely to have symptomatic disease than those who recovered.
ďThis analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization due to the delta variant,Ē the researchers said.

The study appears to corroborate the data collected by Israelís Health Ministry earlier this year which compared the likelihood of reinfection during the fourth wave of the pandemic to the likelihood of breakthrough infections among the vaccinated.
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Jon, what was happening last night on the south coast, is not good news for any of us, anywhere in the world. It's likely happening around the country.

This thing is clearly not going away yet. It would seem to be on the rampage again, even before the schools return tomorrow. Last night was clearly more serious cases that were requiring hospitalisation.

That is horrific news for every single one of us, just as a lot of people are starting to relax a touch regarding masks & distancing etc.
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Erm ! they werenít vaccinated last year ! Vaccines for under 18ís started june 2021
Erm ! Children were wearing masks in the UK
Erm ! Unvaccinated pupils to be sent home starting this term . Was not procedure in the last school year

C- Mal must try harder 😉

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France is the country that kept its schools open the most,Ē said Education minister Jean-Michel Blanquer Thursday, referencing the past 18 months of the Covid pandemic.

Speaking at his yearly back-to-school press conference, the minister laid out plans for the 2021-2022 school year, taking into account the countryís fourth wave of Covid infections due to the more infectious Delta variant.
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   Old Thread  #3252 5 Sept 2021 at 7.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Who said anything about side affectsÖ. That would be you 😂

British medical journal

Contraindications refers to those conditions, physical, mental or emotional state as well as other signs and symptoms which may be present where a specific drug should not be used. A contraindication indicates that by using the drug in these instances, there is a chance of side effects and complications arising. Drug contraindications should not be ignored as these warnings are based on clinical research and the understanding of the potential pharmacological hazards of certain chemical interactions.

Like I said no mid to long term data on the Covid vaccines average testing for vaccines 10-15 yrs
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   Old Thread  #3251 4 Sept 2021 at 11.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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French schools closed for 12 weeks.

63 per cent of French 12-17 year olds have been vaccinated

Schools have masks as mandatory for all staff and for students above the age of 6

Unvaccinated pupils to be sent home if cases occur while vaccinated can remain in school


If you were looking for an example to try and prove a point you might want to try harder next time
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   Old Thread  #3250 4 Sept 2021 at 11.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And looking at Israel vaccines wonít stop it surging either. I think theyíre the worldís highest infection per million people and the most vaccinated in one swoop, bravo
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It would seem to be kicking off again. My son was meant to have finished work three hours ago at 6pm. He's currently sitting outside a hospital, 13th in a longer queue of ambulances with a covid patient on board. He will be there till gone 2am likely.

That's really not good at all.
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Yeah I'm well aware of that one. Sometimes the only way to get some people to listen is to treat them like naughty children I guess.
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   Old Thread  #3247 4 Sept 2021 at 7.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What has this got to do with kids being offered the jab?
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Contraindications are not the same thing as side effects. Start your research by using a dictionary.
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This is true mate, but how many of those being killed by covid are of secondary school age?
We overuse and make obsolete antibiotics en masse, I worry weíre vaccinating our way INTO trouble.
And donít believe that because you did it for the greater good, that most people didnít have a vaccination so they could go on holiday with all the free money theyíve been getting. Then have the nerve to moan that theyíre stuck in a corridor for several hours at the airport, when not only is it obvious there will be big delays but youíve just voluntarily sat in a flying tube for several ****ing hours when it suited you.... ****s
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If you can provide the mid to long term contraindications il take a look at them 😉
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Have the Oxford flavour one then, no mRNA.
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Not mandatory get a vaccine or lose your livelihood 🤔

Up to 70,000 care home staff in England could leave the workforce or lose their jobs because the government is insisting they must be vaccinated against Covid, with women and ethnic minorities disproportionately affected, according to an official estimate.
n a separate statement on the public sector equality duty, the government said the policy of mandatory vaccination for care home staff was ďlikely to have a significant impact on ethnic minoritiesĒ as one in five members of the social care workforce are black, Asian or from another ethnic minority, a higher proportion than in the overall population of England.

It added: ďThe evidence suggests that vaccine hesitancy is highest among black people, people of Pakistani and Bangladeshi heritage, and non-UK/Irish white ethnic groups.Ē

The statement also acknowledged there was a ďrisk that issues such as lack of trust could be exacerbated by this policyĒ in relation to social care workers from minority ethnic backgrounds.

Even tho double jabbed have the same viral load as a non vaccinated person !

As for me being an anti vaxxer Iíve had every fully tested vaccine going just not so keen on one brought in under rushed emergency measures & a vaccine that has never been used on humans before mNRA
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I get what you're saying noj

I guess the counter is that covid is still killing and making very ill way way more people than the vaccine is. There are no easy decisions when you are playing off lives / health of one person against another.

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Iím all for the vaccine being offered to those the relevant authorities deem it safe for, they know more than us. But by going against those providing the Ďscienceí weíve been following with this, the government will be responsible for each child who has cardiac failure, is left infertile, blind or has a fatal blood clot. They then have to explain to the parents it was for the good of other kidís education.. Iím sure that will be a huge consolation.
Didnít we just sacrifice our economy, freedoms and livelihoods to protect the vulnerable for 18 months?
Now weíre contemplating ignoring a medical body specialising in immunisation because it may cause disruption?
It makes sense, but seems like for the parents who lose a child itís an insult
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Ive no idea what youre talking about. Stop talking in riddles and explain to me why I'm wrong?
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I guess you donít do irony 😂






Shouldnít you have paid attention at school 😉
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Come on. Educate me.
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What exactly is people's issue with the vaccine being offered?

As with every age group its not been mandatory, its just offered, take or leave it.

Surely all you anti vax lot are pro choice. Why would you be ok with forcing your views in other people, when you are so against their views being forced on you?

I would put money that given the option, most kids would opt to take the vax.
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Oddly enough they never shut the schools in France political decision not a medical one !!
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i doubt the unions would go down that route to be honest. opens a whole can of worms about all staff having to be vaccinated as well and that's a mess they don't need.

contrary to common misconception, most teachers are happiest when their students are in school, safe and healthy.



personally, I think the vaccine should be offered to all secondary school children given the data on cases and the likelihood of spread once school starts. offered - not dictated. as said already, the students who I've spoken to who were ill with covid have all said they'd like to have the vaccine. many parents would feel the same.

i know some parents would be against vaccinating their children which is why consent laws are in place. some parents refuse vaccines for measles and TB too on behalf of their children...

short / long term effects of vaccines are an interesting point with a lot of grey areas. I can tell you that the short and long term effects for students who have not achieved as well in exams as they would have are less of a grey area.

got to get back to my date changing - I mean planning now. I'm thinking of using 'what the internet says must be true' as a stimulus....
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Boom 😂
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I guess 6 weeks isnít long enough 😉
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He's busy planning (that old chestnut 🌰 😂
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Sssshhhhh youíll trigger Mal 😉
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One reason to give kids the jab is to keep the teachers happy.
You know the unions will be banging on soon about teachers not teaching un-vaccinated kids

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Vaccinating developing children with a vaccine that has no mid/long term contraindications & no real benefits to them ! But hey if youíre ok with that jab away !!

Ministers could for the first time defy the advice of their official vaccine advisers and push ahead with Covid jabs for all 12- to 15-year-olds, after the scientific body concluded the net health benefit in vaccinating the age group was too small.

In a move that highlights a growing divide between government and scientific advisers over the next phase of the vaccination programme, ministers will seek extra evidence which may help overturn the watchdogs verdict .

Following the scientific evidence 🤔
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I'm not sure what the issue is?

If you don't want the Vaccination 💉 don't have it.

If it means your limited in life options that's your choice too.

I had to have various jabs to go to South Africa. Kenya 🇰🇪 and hepatitis jabs when I was working.

It's your choice.
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So weíre vaccinating children to protect who exactly ? Bearing in mind the negative affects of Covid on children are almost negligible & the viral load of the double jabbed is equal to that of someone not jabbed ! Am I missing something 🤔
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Hmmm. We cleared the jab for adults and vulnerable children based on risk assessment before other countries on jcvi say so and praised their work.
Now they make a recommendation not to vaccinate kids as itís clearly a higher risk than not, but we are now deciding their advice should be taken with a pinch of salt because it will cause social disruption... lowering the threshold of risk/benefit in CHILDREN in the name of social dis-****ing-ruption! You get half of Oceania on lockdown for a few cases and weíre mooching about in the shops and pubs with no protection and 30k (known) cases a day and theyíre talking about social disruption
If they stopped testing and focused on treating cancer and dementia patients, tending to those sick with covid as needed, it would have exactly the same outcome. Weíll all get covid, itís not going away and only time will tell if having a jab once or twice a year causes health problems; or encourage mutant vaccine resistant strains. Does make me lol when people blame the unvaccinated for causing vaccine evading mutations, like the virus would know how to mutate for successful transmission without encountering the vaccine to begin with!?
Smokers walk among us, I am one, weíll all die. A similar terrifying respiratory failure, but itís taxable so the risk/benefit leans in the governmentís favour.
Play with the lives of people stupid enough to smoke, but ffs, kids......
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He's a lot better now Mal thank you. Still has no sense of smell or taste yet. He's lost a stone in weight and was already skinny as a rake.
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Ssssshhhhhh! That's supposed to be a secret!

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Planning ❗

You teachers just churn out the same stuff from last year. Just cut and paste the dates 😂

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You have to remember who you're dealing with T

I mean these people don't even know there should be a 'u' after the 'Q' and before the 'anon'.... basics...


How's your nephew doing? Hope he's feeling better.

Mike - Enjoy! I'm a bit jealous. Got a weekend of planning for students who may or may not be there...
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Quote... So good to hear the Vaccine rollout wonít be for kids........although Iím sure thousands wouldnít have had it anyway.

Quote... Piss take.

2019. The year that the world was introduced to a novel emerging virus. Within 18 months, the incredible doctors and scientists of our world had done something no other generation in human history fighting a global pandemic had ever had... A vaccine to beat the virus. The advanced countries all worried, that the poorest countries would be the worst affected... Poor them...

In two of the most advanced/entitled countries in the world, the UK and the USA, swathes of people were more scared of the vaccine created to save them.... Than the virus itself, that was trying to wipe them and their families out.

Per capita... The UK and the USA are the worst hit in the world by the virus... Read the above again to see why that is. Entitlement, me, me, me.

Is this the human race, actually starting to go backwards after 100 years of massive advancements?
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I'm out on the rod now.
Feeling tired 😴 but otherwise sound.
Just had a pasty. It weighed about 9lb.
I've lost 7lb in 10 days so every cloud.

I should have been in France 🇫🇷 this morning.

Ho hum
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I wouldn't hold your breath on this one Wayne. ..

Cases in 12- 15 years olds are more than1.5 times higher than the adult population. Cases in 16-17 year olds more than 2.5 times higher. And this is before they actually go back to school.

Yes, there are less deaths in that a few group. But the illness is there are the disruption to learning and the knock on effect of close contact isolating for families is massive.

More than enough there for boris and Co to find an alternative medical expert who agrees with their agenda....

A bit like moo does it guess....
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Piss take!
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Nothing to see here move along

The government is reportedly determined to push ahead with COVID-19 vaccines for 12 to 15-year-olds, despite advisers recommending against it.
The Joint Committee for Vaccination and Immunisation said on Friday that, while it would widen the vaccination programme to include more children in that age group with health conditions, it was not recommending the widespread vaccination of their healthy classmates.
But reports in a number of national newspapers on Saturday said that government ministers, who will have the final say, are keen to offer vaccinations to all children in that age group.
They will draw on the advice of the chief medical officers for England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland before "making a decision shortly", Health Secretary Sajid Javid said.
The Times reported that the vaccinations could begin as soon as next week.
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So good to hear the Vaccine rollout wonít be for kids........although Iím sure thousands wouldnít have had it anyway......
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From my experience the guidance in schools has been good when in the hands of the head teachers. Not so much when it's from gavin bloody Williamson. ...

There was talk of 1000s of air ventilation units before term started that of course haven't appeared.

Mask rules were relaxed before the end of term and that definitely corresponded with the rise in cases for 11 - 18 year olds.

Most of our cases last year - early on and up until the delta variant kicked off in anger - were along the lines of 'X was at a restaurant in town at the weekend' or a family member had picked it up from elsewhere. The actual spread in school was limited but we had very clear rules for all staff and students and 99 per cent just said 'ok' and got on with it rather than - ironixally - the childish 'they're not telling me what to do' that we see in supposed intelligent grown ups....

It seems the current variant is much more prevalent in teenagers so I'm approaching the term with some caution. I'll be wearing my mask around the buildings and keeping some of the sensible rules we had from last year. Online essays rather than paper, distancing in practical lessons, wiping down after lessons etc. It's easy to do and might keep us safer and more productive.

edit - just seen that in Scotland (who have been back at school for a couple of weeks already) there were 32000 covid related absences last week. At the same time that gavin is saying students should have a 'normal' return to school....

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I know there's loads of blah blah blah out there regarding this virus.
I've not yet regained my sense of taste or smell.

Who's experienced this and how long did it take for it to return.

Yes on Dr Google there are answers to this.
But could you "real world" folks share your thoughts 💭 please.
Day 10 quarantine ends tonight.
My car is loaded (no I'm not going at midnight 😂

Just needs some bait and food to pack.

I'm not taking much food as I can't taste sodall so I might as well keep the weight off.

Keep safe folks
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Portugal are the first to drop the double vaccination requirement for travel... when you off Wayne
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Given your profession Mal is there anything you've seen that could be done, improved or would suggest to make things better in schools to try and stop the spread, it obviously seems to run rife when the kiddies are all back together, in saying that I cannot see how it is any different when they are on their holidays as they still mix in groups with obviously less restrictions placed on them surely transmission is just as high.
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Out of interest, where are you seeing the data for fabric or non-medical masks being Ďuselessí? Iíve only seen studies with conclusions that show a positive benefit or are inconclusive due to the lack of randomised control trials.
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I do a number of things - mask and vaccination included - which are all partly effective, to reduce the risk for myself and others. A combination of these effective things has had a positive impact for myself and my loved ones so far.

You - if your posts are to believed - you do not do these things. Which is consistently ineffective. 0 per cent plus 0 per cent is still zero. See?

Anyway

Deaths over 200 for the 24 hours. Highest since March. Over 1000 people needing ventilator treatment - another worrying increase.

And school starts back this week...

I'm sure I'm not the only person who is expecting another disrupted term.

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So with that knowledge i assume you wear the correct ffp3 mask?
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If people are wearing the mask Mark said the Fp jobbys then yes maximum protection, anything else is useless against air bourne virus particles in a closed space of any kind!

So out of the replies you ALL wear masks to protect others who are pretty much all vaccinated like yourselves......
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In all the shops near me, not a tourist part of devon, its very very rare to see people without masks on.

I stopped at Cornwall services today, full of stinking northerners, and id put a high estimate at 1 in 50 people had a mask.

Where i live has, and has maintained one of the lowest covid levels. Where cornwall services is is right in the area of one of currently the worst in the country.

Id bet that even of masks dont work in tge slightest, people who wear them still are less likely to catch it, as they are more considerate caring people.

The whole, they aren't 100% effective so ehats the point argument is ludicrous. The same people who say that probably dont wash their hands after a poo.
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Also they need to be worn to help. My experience is if you wear a mask now you are in the minority in many areas here, but previously most wore them.
The exception to this is our small local shop where people still use a one in one out system and Iíve not seen anyone enter without a mask.
Lack of care certainly seems to have boosted COVID case in Cornwall.
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As said Mike - reducing risk is better than saying 'it's not 100 per cent so I'll not bother' . It's a rubbish point of argument that people don't apply to other things like seat belts, most other medication, contraception, cleaning products. ... the list is endless. Factor in that not everyone has worn a mask to your 'why has the virus continued to rise question... simple.

As for choices... some can have an adverse affect on others (like not wearing a mask) ... some are simply personal preference (apple or android) .. and some are clearly a sign of delusion (Everton. ....)
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Because they are only so effective,same as any other prevention method. Those masks DO work , hence why they are worn in hospitals etc by healthcare professionals. Nothing is 100% effective. But any help is still help.
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Mal.
It's about choices.
But if disposable masks did work why has the virus continued to rise ❓


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Last time I had flu I couldn't get out of bed, let alone go shopping.
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Guidance in being a considerate person from the resident 'I'm all right / **** everyone else' brigade..



Wayne - I wear a mask because it reduces risk for myself and others. That simple. Your point about pre covid is fair enough - I think more people are now more aware of aspects of health and hygiene.


The all or nothing argument about vaccines / masks / washing hands etc. is just boring now. A reduction in risk is better than nothing at all.
Condoms aren't 100 per cent effective either but I doubt you'd be telling your kids there's no point in them at all because of this would you?

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Donít most considerate people turn away or put their hand over their mouths or use a handkerchief regards coughing sneezing 🤧
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Don't most people wear masks to prevent themselves inadvertently coughing / sneezing / gobbing on others?

So Covid made you start doing that Jon, what about when you had the Flu did the same not apply?

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It's a personal choice thing.
It's like android or apple 🍏
Petrol ⛽ or diesel
Coronation Street or Eastenders.
Remain or leave.

If anyone chooses to wear one please do so as it's there personal choice.

But please don't inflict your personal choice onto others who are choosing not to.
The only masks that stop transmission are those very expensive ones and if folks feel so strongly about masks then buy one of those.
The cloth mask are not worth a carrot 🥕.
But its a personal choice and if you believe it helps then fine.

I believe Everton are the best club in the world but I don't expect everyone to have to believe that.

Blimey I must be getting better after that rant 😂
So yes folks if you want to wear one then that's your choice. But it's a choice and don't force it onto me please.
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Don't most people wear masks to prevent themselves inadvertently coughing / sneezing / gobbing on others?

Nothing to do with self-protection, just courtesy to others who might be more vulnerable.

That's why I wear one in shops etc.
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Good on ya Mike.....
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Hi
I'm day 7 after being told I'm positive.
Day 9 after first symptoms
I had a rough 2 days on Thursday and Friday.
I had a raging burning throat, every joint ached (hurt) headache and fatigue.
Saturday I mowed the lawn
Sunday I tried to put up a bird 🐦 box and I was exhausted just carrying the step ladders.
Monday mild sore throat and occasional cough.
Tuesday (yesterday 31st August) still a very mild sore throat. But my wife who had 3 LF tests and a pc test which were all negative yet she had a cough, sore throat and fatigue went for another pcr test and that confirmed she is positive.
Today I'm fine.
I was very rough for about 48 hours.
I have had the flu once and that was worse (if you've had the flu you'd know (people who say "I shouldn't be in work today as I've got the flu" if you have the flu you can't get out of bed)
My wife is now where I was, very poorly.

The answer to your question ❓ about wearing masks ❓

If I have too I will.
Those disposable masks are useless, not worth a carrot 🥕.
Wearing one of those disposable ones is like wearing a parachute to go shopping, you never know when you might fall off a cliff
I'll still get on the coach 🚍 to watch Everton (home and away) and let's be honest nothing could be worse than supporting Everton all my life ❗

I still can't taste or smell anything but I've lost 6lb in 9 days so every cloud.

Keep safe folks
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MSM sticking to the ďwe need to make schools safeĒ so kids need jabbing rubbish......18 months into this and you can see the people saying it donít believe they are saying it ......

Question for Mal / Mark - now you are vaccinated do you still fear catching covid hence the wearing of a mask still??
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Tell spanker I said hi
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I have no idea what that means. ..



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Go easy on the vslwt 👀
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A quick read

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58386905
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CDC 21/6/21


"What we've mostly seen this virus do is evolve to become more infectious," says Stuart Ray, MD. "That is the remarkable feature of Delta ó that it is so infectious.
"The viral evolution is a bit like a ticking clock. The more we allow infections to occur, the more likely changes will occur. When we have lots of people infected, we give more chances to the virus to diversify and then adapt to selective pressures," says Ray, vice-chair of medicine for data integrity and analytics and professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland."The problem is if the virus changes in such a way that the spike protein ó which the antibodies from the vaccine are directed against ó are no longer effective at binding and destroying the virus, and the virus escapes immune surveillance," Nelson says.If this occurs, he says, "we will have an ineffective vaccine, essentially. And we'll be back to where we were last March with a brand-new disease."

When asked how likely a new strain of SARS-CoV-2 could emerge that gets around vaccine protection, Nelson says, "I think [what] we've learned so far there is no way to predict anything" about this pandemic."The best way to prevent the virus from mutating is to prevent hosts, people, from getting sick with it," he says. "That's why it's so important people should get immunized and wear masks."Both Nelson and Ray point out that it is in the best interest of the virus to evolve to be more transmissible and spread to more people. In contrast, a virus that causes people to get so sick that they isolate or die, thus halting transmission, works against viruses surviving evolutionarily.Some viruses also mutate to become milder over time, but that has not been the case with SARS-CoV-2, Ray says.
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Obviously youíre aware of someone being asymptotic no ? Why do you think they are testing people 🙄

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The second is

It's loosely defined as the immediate and close surroundings that I find myself in.

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HIV and Malaria aren't real.
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Even with a vaccine youíve still Ďgot ití but the antibodies (in theory) donít allow it to progress into a symptomatic infection. Otherwise vaccines wouldnít be measured on immune response, you have to Ďget ití for that response to be worth the health risk of vaccination in the first place.
Still people dying with 2 jabs and still people dying from the jab, so itís not the holy grail. There is also the realistic prospect that vaccines themselves create mutations, it was written about with malaria and hiv before covid.
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You cant be as contagious if you haven't got it.

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I'm going fishing.
I got my positive results on the 25th August my 37th wedding 💒 anniversary.
But another 10 days lockdown together in the same house I'll go mad 😡 and she'll probably kill me.
😂
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Up to you I suppose Mike but know what I would be doing.....

Mal / Mark - Proper masks do work but them paper things which the majority were wearing and lots still wear are as much use as a chocolate fire guard......Iím sure a few of BoJo mates have made a few quid out of them though!
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Boll ox
I've been in quarantine for a week now and I'm allowed out to play on Friday 3rd.
My wife has been tested and is now positive.
Track and trace have emailed me saying I need to isolate blah blah blah for another week ❓
Do I have to if I've done my time in quarantine

I was going fishing Friday night and I'd be on my own but I don't know if Boris would allow this.

I did ask my good lady to remove the bloody app but "she knows best"
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You still ignoring the fact that youíre just as contagious as someone whoís non vaccinated & the fact that youíre flying around the world makes you more likely to bring a new variant into the country !! Re the masks as you say unless youíre wearing an FFP3 mask youíre wasting your time !!
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Probably just coincidence. ..

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Me too Mal. Zero times. FFP2 or 3 mask whenever I'm around breeding factories like Wayne. I've been on numerous ten hour flights too. Zero times.

My boy and my daughter in law have never had it, despite being up close and personal with Covid every single day. I wonder if their masks helped them not to get it? Of course they ****ing did. If that does not tell you that proper masks work, nothing ever will.
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Yeah yeah...

Tell me again, how many times have you had covid? I'm on zero...

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If I don't have to I won't wear one.
Although some folks think it's an improvement on my looks 😂
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Nothing like a bit of Fear Porn to put the wind up some people 😷
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I like seeing people driving in their own car alone with a mask on
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   Old Thread  #3166 30 Aug 2021 at 6.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think any human wearing a muzzle looks like a weirdo so as your now the minority they do probably think your a bit strange......

The ones still wearing their muzzle outside.......simple.......proper weirdo ****s......
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   Old Thread  #3165 30 Aug 2021 at 3.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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On the coach a few wore masks. Only two "old feckers like me" wore them.
In the stadium 🏟 the odd few wear them.
I've not wore one since 19th July (other than pharmacy)

I could not go to Brighton away as I was "in quarantine" but the first three games mask wearing seemed to be reducing


I knew there was a risk going to watch Everton, but catching covid is less severe than watching the mighty blues

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   Old Thread  #3164 30 Aug 2021 at 3.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Out of interest Mike, are you seeing anyone still wearing masks? On the coach / in the crowd?

I still use mine in shops and the like but increasingly I'm being looked at as the weirdo (although that might not be the mask ....)
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   Old Thread  #3163 30 Aug 2021 at 12.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Opening day at goodison someone walked into the gents and his mate said "I thought you didn't want a pi@s"

He said "I don't I just miss the smell of the place"


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   Old Thread  #3162 30 Aug 2021 at 12.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was going to suggest that a lack of smell might be useful at goodison but I'm not that cruel....

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   Old Thread  #3160 29 Aug 2021 at 9.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I left the door ajar so you'd kick it open 😂
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Being an Everton fan explains the lack of taste
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We are looking to get an XL
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   Old Thread  #3157 29 Aug 2021 at 5.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good. Stay up north and keep your stinking germs up there
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No Ben........Pit.......
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   Old Thread  #3155 29 Aug 2021 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If I knelt down in front of you Iíd still be taller 😂
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   Old Thread  #3154 29 Aug 2021 at 2.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No consolation but don't take it personally.

It's not just Cornwall where people are being obnoxious. Unfortunately it's a nationwide thing....

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How very dare you. We now live in a two tier system. The clean, and the unclean. The exotic holidayers, and the UK Butlins campers.

In future, please bear this in mind whilst addressing a 'saviour'.

I can see a time in the near future, where you'll have to take the knee when addressing a saviour Clanger. After being one of the unvaccinated, thus leaving vaccinated old women to help save you from the virus and all that...

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Goes two ways Iím afraid. I was listening to radio Cornwall a day or so ago and workers in the hospitality sector were complaining about abuse and lack of care from visitors. I certainly wouldnít want to be in that business, very busy, trying to work safely but getting abuse when things take a little longer.
Itís no surprise that our COVID rate here has gone through the roof.
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   Old Thread  #3150 29 Aug 2021 at 12.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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An XL Wayne?
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   Old Thread  #3149 29 Aug 2021 at 12.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think it all depends on the dose you receive
I sat on a coach going up to Leeds from Cheshire with a load of Everton fans, probably some didn't even realise we were carrying the the virus.
I didn't realise I had until I got the test I only had a sore throat and a cough

This morning I tried to put up a bird 🐦 box in a tree.
By the time I got the ladders out I was exhausted.
I gave up.
I'm knackered

My advice is if you have a cough or a sore throat then get a test (or don't go to Everton 😂


Hopefully next game is at goodison so I'll be there as its the international break now

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   Old Thread  #3148 29 Aug 2021 at 12.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ok so I have the 1st vaccine booked for tomorrow......











































For my 8 week old bully puppy.......
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   Old Thread  #3147 29 Aug 2021 at 12.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How so itís been proven that double vaccinated people carry the same viral load as non vaccinated!! Seems weíre all dirty mofoís. As for being saviours youíre the ones whole be flying around the world on holiday bringing back all those new variants mutations you keep on about 😂


Standard 19/8/21

ďfully vaccinated adults can carry the same amount of coronavirus as those who are unvaccinated, according to a new study.

Researchers from the University of Oxford found the viral load reduction can be wiped out by the Delta variant which is now dominant in the UK.

While evidence demonstrates that vaccines significantly reduce hospitalisations and deaths, scientists now believe those infected by the Delta variant can still harbour similar levels of virus to those who are unvaccinated.Ē

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   Old Thread  #3146 29 Aug 2021 at 11.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was trying to order a meal in a pub in Bude and the landlord said, oh another Londoner, youíve probably brought the London variant down and weíll be locked up for another three months. I was in absolute disbelief.
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Well I can't say we were treated badly during our visit.We stayed in Ilfracombe and had days out in Woolacombe and Coombe Martin and everybody we met in shops and pubs were lovely and friendly
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Weeeeeeeeeee, two for the price of one.

Yes you both read that correctly, saviours.
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   Old Thread  #3143 29 Aug 2021 at 11.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Vaccinated saviours.......

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   Old Thread  #3142 29 Aug 2021 at 11.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cornwall and Devons economy thrives on tourism, the way we were treated recently down there as tourists from the locals including pub owners was an absolute disgrace.

Hope all tourists go elsewhere and the inbred, tourist dependant ****ers have to eat each other.
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   Old Thread  #3141 29 Aug 2021 at 11.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed. Cornwall is full of it this time around.
Everyone and his dog seem to have come here on holiday. I hear of little care and consideration taken by many visitors, consequently the intensive care wards are packed, mainly with those who havenít had the jab. The younger groups are obviously invulnerable and most will probably survive their intensive care experience but at what cost.
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   Old Thread  #3140 29 Aug 2021 at 11.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The virus wonít ever be beaten.
And the saviours will be the ones who kept the economy going
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   Old Thread  #3139 29 Aug 2021 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm still waiting for them to flick the switch for mine. It's becoming quite disappointing how long it's taking. Useless ****s at Astra Zeneca. I'm thinking of writing them a strongly worded letter of complaint.

I hope all these dirty unvaccinated mofos on here, are going to thank us, the vaccinated saviours, when the virus finally gets beaten.

I'll be waiting Wayne
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   Old Thread  #3138 29 Aug 2021 at 10.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iíve woken up with two heads, a flashing tracker beacon on my head and a shock collar after my vaccine on Friday.
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So many people seem to be coming down with Covid at the moment. Lots in the past couple of weeks that I know, far far more in comparison to the past 18 months.

My nephew still has not had his sense of taste back. He's been a lot better now the past few days and is now testing negative. But his taste has still not come back yet.

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   Old Thread  #3135 28 Aug 2021 at 8.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís exactly how I was apart from the smell I had a taste issue.........
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   Old Thread  #3134 28 Aug 2021 at 7.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My Mrs went the other way. Tried loads of food to see if she could taste anything

Fat caannnnnt
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   Old Thread  #3133 28 Aug 2021 at 7.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have tried "sniffing petrol ⛽" from my lawnmower can.
Absolutely nothing.

I might invest in some monster 👾 crab 🦀 and see if that helps.

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   Old Thread  #3132 28 Aug 2021 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree with Ben, my sister lost her taste, lasted about a month. She ended up losing loads of weight because she said said nothing was nice so didnít want to eat!
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   Old Thread  #3130 28 Aug 2021 at 6.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My Mrs lost smell and taste. Lasted about 4 weeks
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I was with you all the way until that last comment

I'm struggling at the moment, burning 🔥 throat and coughing.
Banging headache but that last sentence made me smile ☺

I should have been at Brighton away now, so every cloud.

Cheers Mike
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Hope you're feeling better soon fella.

I think that's a how long is a piece of string question. From the people I know who have had it, some didn't really suffer the lack of taste so much, while some are still saying it's an issue a long time afterwards - as in months.

I think the return of fans to matches is going to inevitably result in more cases, just like the return to school will.

As for the football... When Rafa stops his charity work you'll be scuppered again.
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   Old Thread  #3127 28 Aug 2021 at 3.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've had both pfizer vaccine jabs
I went to Leeds last week to watch the mighty blues (Everton)
On Tuesday I went to Huddersfield away and on the way up I noticed I had a sore throat.
Wednesday my throat is burning and I'm sneezing like a good un.
LF test positive and I booked a pcr test, both positive

I feel like 💩, but I've had worse colds to be honest.
I've had flu once and that was worse than this by a long way.

The question is "how long is it normally before my sence of taste returns? "

The taste in my mouth not choice of football team

Cheers Mike
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They are there for all to see, as they have and commented on many times before.

Oh, and I voted leave too ,not that it a) makes any difference and b) is any of your business
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   Old Thread  #3125 28 Aug 2021 at 6.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thanks Yonny,


Here you go those that believe that this is just a glitch and will all go away soon. Have a little listen to Klaus talking about his Industrial revolution and his plans .........Just a quick 1 minute 30ish seconds of your valuable time.


https://www.facebook.com/messenger_media/?thread_id=100002302264000&attachment_id=256826836259630&message_id=mid.%24cAABa89ub8BWBvDgTul7ivLI5KjCX
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   Old Thread  #3124 27 Aug 2021 at 10.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Potentially yes.

Although stupid and very easily manipulated are also options

This is by no means an exhaustive list


Anyway....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58357021

Seems obvious. Maybe there's something that can be done to help eh?
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You're*

Soz, couldn't help it
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Your calling me a thick Coooornt you muddling fukwits?????.

Brother in law, which is my partners brother. HIS FOOKING WIFES MUM you braindead Twot.

That just about sums up your group intelligence. The lot of you.
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well yeah, I mean as long as a few survive and are able to procreate and continue mankind it's all good
what a dumb point.
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Whatís life expectancy got to do with mankind surviving countless diseases viruses plagues etc without medical intervention which was the point I was making 🤷‍♂️
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Sounds like the perfect description of a leftie teacher 😉
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Care to post some of my racist comments as Iím sure if any are the Mods would have banned me donít you think or are you another ****wit who just goes along with the everything is racist narrative whilst enjoying your white privilege 😂 you do know you are allowed to have conversations whoís subject matter as uncomfortable as they may be to those who are easily offended.



Ps I voted leave does that make me a Xenophobe to 😂
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Yes I did which was in response to Mals comment on my previous post ! It helps if you actually read whatís posted before commenting 😉
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No change here then. Thick as a man smuggling weed in his bedchair.
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I used to like the clangers

Weird little things who spoke nonsense and were clearly on another planet..
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How's your sister's sole brother doing?
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Wayne your first and second sentences contradict each other!
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'Yet mankind still exists after millennia without any medical intervention 🤷‍♂️'



yes but the average life expectancy was about 25!
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My mothers only son just had a vaccine and feels alright.
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Why do you think the majority of world goventments dissagree with you wayne? Medically trained experts far smarter than you or i are recomending children be vaccinated, so what is your opinion on this?

Is it a conspiracy and for what reason? Are you just smarter than them and know better?

What reason would it be pushed by the collective of every medically backed organisation?
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You spoke about the bubonic plague , and how it killed so many people back when medacine wasnt really understood. And now that medical science is further along, much less people die from it.

How can that possibly bolster your argument?
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It's perfectly coherent to anyone who can read. And your personal opinion is utter nonsense. You keep banging on about people dying as though that's the only negative effect on people's health this thing has. It's not. That's plain for everyone except for you to see. It's very clear to everyone here that you are a total and utter imbecile, a racist bigot with opinions and ideas which are far bigger than your brain or iq. Your profile name is incredibly apt though, I'll give you that.
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   Old Thread  #3107 27 Aug 2021 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís already proven the effectiveness drops dramatically after 6 months. Yes we have advanced medical science but the vaccine is unproven and still in its testing stage. You have had your vaccine as thatís great, I havenít and wonít until Iím completely comfortable I need it. Mutations may or may not happen but Iím not sitting around worrying about it everyday!

Itís simple, very simple. Their is currently NO evidence that supports children being vaccinated to protect THEM. You know why, they donít need protection from it! What we do have though is parents who take there kids to A&E for a splinter and now over think their children getting Covid and becoming gravely ill which is simply not happening!

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   Old Thread  #3106 27 Aug 2021 at 12.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I canít back it up with any peer reviewed studies but my own research has been promising since 93
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   Old Thread  #3105 27 Aug 2021 at 12.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Perhaps youíre using the wrong Erb Noj 😉
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   Old Thread  #3104 27 Aug 2021 at 12.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Youíre not that bright are you Leroy 😉
Could you possibly point out where Iíve contradicted myself or posted anything false 🤔
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   Old Thread  #3103 27 Aug 2021 at 12.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iíve been fumigating the house with herbs and itís worked for me
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   Old Thread  #3102 27 Aug 2021 at 12.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I never understand your arguments. It seems like you start off writing evidence that proves yourself wrong. But somehow you seem to think it proves you right, but with no explanation why.

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   Old Thread  #3101 27 Aug 2021 at 12.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Awww struggling to string a coherent sentence together again Dullard 😉
Itís so amusing how irate some people get over someones personal choices opinions itís almost as if everyone should think the same ! Isnít that what they call Hive mentality 😂
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   Old Thread  #3100 27 Aug 2021 at 12.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes the bubonic plague comes to mind care to elaborate on the medical interventions that were used during the Bubonic plaque ? Iíve listed a few to help you out 🤡
Of course if you consider quackery to be medical intervention ?

Rubbing onions, herbs or a chopped up snake (if available) on the boils or cutting up a pigeon and rubbing it over an infected body.
Drinking vinegar, eating crushed minerals, arsenic, mercury or even ten-year-old treacle!
Sitting close to a fire or in a sewer to drive out the fever, or fumigating the house with herbs to purify the air.
People who believed God was punishing you for your sin, 'flagellants', went on processions whipping themselves.

Obviously the estimated 75-200 million poor souls who perished were unable to obtain these wonders of modern science.

Yet here we still are 🤷‍♂️
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   Old Thread  #3099 27 Aug 2021 at 12.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You really are as thick as pig sh1t
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   Old Thread  #3098 27 Aug 2021 at 12.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Indeed fear seems to be a massive negative!!
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   Old Thread  #3097 27 Aug 2021 at 11.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I did suggest earlier in the thread - respectfully - that a huge outlier like that interns of numbers could be something hereditary / genetic. Those numbers in one family would suggest a closer look.

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   Old Thread  #3096 27 Aug 2021 at 11.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes, we are in times where we have advanced medical science and vaccines to stop it. Why on earth would you refute that
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   Old Thread  #3095 27 Aug 2021 at 11.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So at absolute worst for every 10 million vaccines 177 people would be hospitalised for clots or related issues.

And mrmoo has has SIX people in his own family related. What are the chances
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   Old Thread  #3094 27 Aug 2021 at 11.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Forget Spanish flu comparison Mark, weíre in different times completely.


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   Old Thread  #3093 27 Aug 2021 at 11.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Without any medical intervention?



Anyway..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58347434
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   Old Thread  #3092 27 Aug 2021 at 10.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can you not comprehend that death isn't the only negative effect of covid?
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   Old Thread  #3091 27 Aug 2021 at 10.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Jeeez you really are **** scared arenít you must be horrible to live your life cowering from a virus that has a 0.5-1% fatality rate with the vast majority of those being over 83 with underlying health issues ! I guess the vaccine hasnít waylaid your fears then ?
Yet mankind still exists after millennia without any medical intervention 🤷‍♂️
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   Old Thread  #3090 27 Aug 2021 at 10.24am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís not about whoís dying now though is it Clanger? Itís about what is to come after the next mutation. This can be said 50,000 times yet I fear it will never sink in. Some people are never going to accept what is actually happening until itís to late. That or we are lucky and this virus just disappears without a large kill spree first.

Complacency is what killed so many from Spanish Flu. Exactly the complacency you lot keep showing over and over again.

ďThose who ignore our history, are condemned to repeat it,Ē

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   Old Thread  #3089 27 Aug 2021 at 9.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brother in laws wife's mum is your own mum surely

That's what I was thinking

Maybe he means noddieCarpers brother in laws wife's mum. All very confusing.
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   Old Thread  #3088 27 Aug 2021 at 9.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thick ****.

Goes to show what kind of person you are to lie about people in your family dying and choking on blood etc.
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   Old Thread  #3087 27 Aug 2021 at 9.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fearful of what ? Surely if they were worried about Covid theyíd simple get the jab no ? Youíre a gambling man Mark 0.5-1% chance as to you actually dying from Covid even you must like those odds 😂
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   Old Thread  #3086 27 Aug 2021 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Brother in laws wife's mum is your own mum surely

Yes. We all think you are lying about every single one. I doubt even BigClanger believes you.
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   Old Thread  #3085 27 Aug 2021 at 8.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I am starting to smell just a touch, just a little bit of fear from the unvaccinated among us

Covid numbers seem to be rising among the people I know. One friend from up north came down with it last week, two days before he due to go on holiday. He has been in bits, extreme pain in his kidneys of all things.

Iíve only known personally a couple of people who have caught Covid in past 18 monthsÖ Suddenly six in the past week or so. Go and get vaccinated you nutters

You could be on holiday in weeks. My holiday this year was spent fishing

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   Old Thread  #3084 27 Aug 2021 at 8.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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QuoteÖ. My brother in laws wifes mum.

Surely your brother in laws wife, is your sister? If I called either of my sisters, my ďbrother in laws wifeĒ they would bash me up Dean.
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   Old Thread  #3083 26 Aug 2021 at 10.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My good god. You seriously think that I lied about losing family members to this vax?

Are you fooking insane? Why the fook would I make that sort of stuff up? Just to prove a point to YOU?

Tell that to my Mrs whos Dad died choking on his own blood. My brother in laws wifes mum. My aunt Pats cousin. My cousin Jasons wifes mum. All within less than a week of their second jab.

Kevin and Elaine in S.A are recovering yet it would seem they are far from back to normal. You are being Lied to by your Government, media and doctors, yet you are that far gone that you think I would lie about family members that have fooking died?

You sad fookers. That just about sums you up. You are beyond help.

Get on with it.
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   Old Thread  #3082 26 Aug 2021 at 10.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Remember that time you lied and said 4 of your family had died from the, vax and 2 others were dying? Yeah, thats why noone will ever believe you.
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   Old Thread  #3081 26 Aug 2021 at 9.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Coincidence. ...

All the anti vaxxers appear to talk out of their backside....

Go figure
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   Old Thread  #3080 26 Aug 2021 at 9.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just fancy a holiday
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   Old Thread  #3079 26 Aug 2021 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Good luck.......
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   Old Thread  #3078 26 Aug 2021 at 8.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Despite me saying I didnít want one, Iím booked in for one tomorrow.

Hopefully I post back on Saturday.
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   Old Thread  #3077 26 Aug 2021 at 8.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wayne it is obvious that whichever group they are targeting, those are the deaths that they are reporting that have died from Covid. Not heard a thing about the older lot! Have those deaths stopped? Not from the bloody jab i can assure you.

The incidences of of clotting and heart problems in young fit athletes tells you all you need to know about this *****.

How many coincidences does it take before you see something for what it really is?

Are people that blind or just too far indoctrinated? Beyond belief really.
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   Old Thread  #3076 26 Aug 2021 at 7.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Wow......This still going?

Ok, so it is obvious by now that no matter what anyone says or shows people, even from the very top in their field, those jabbed are having none of it. Simple as that. They have been blinded by the BS and hypnotised and coerced by fear. There is no other explanation. Common sense will tell you that a sniffle, a bit of a cough and a runny nose is a cold....Remember the Common cold anyone? Now they go running for a PCR test because the media and government have brain washed them ffs.

Listen to Prof Hodkinson for crying out loud......
https://t.me/HATSTRUTH/1486?fbclid=IwAR0i7_XzIpy2ZjY_7MGKO_yyjbQ7V9UL6HuAKlBy0OTYsqc_ARtF2gpIbWg
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   Old Thread  #3075 26 Aug 2021 at 6.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A BBC Radio Newcastle presenter died due to complications from the AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine, a coroner has found. Lisa Shaw died at the age of 44 in May after developing headaches a week following her first dose of the vaccine. The inquest heard that Ms Shaw suffered blood clots in the brain which ultimately led to her death - but the condition linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine was very rare. After the hearing, Ms Shaw's family said: "She truly was the most wonderful wife, mum, daughter, sister and friend."Ö.. at least her family were comforted due to the fact that the complication was very rare 😉
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   Old Thread  #3074 26 Aug 2021 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Still nothing sinister to see here move along !! Just until weíve vaccinated the vulnerable 😂😂😂😂
The Government taking it upon themselves to vaccinate your children without your consent with a vaccine that has absolutely no mid to long term contraindication data to children that are not fully developed ÖÖ what could possibly go wrong 😉
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   Old Thread  #3073 26 Aug 2021 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Why Jamie, for posting some facts! If you donít have anything nice to say to people then do one you joker and carry on discussing poxy ****ing sugar in your maize!

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   Old Thread  #3072 26 Aug 2021 at 5.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you really are a ****ing idiot.

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   Old Thread  #3071 26 Aug 2021 at 5.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís not rubbish though Mal, putting your reply into context it should say ďover 75s are better off vaccinatedĒ and letís not forget only 10 under 18s have died since the pandemic started, the vaccine is not preventing it being spread and to top it off itís not that effective after 6 months!

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   Old Thread  #3070 26 Aug 2021 at 4.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Rubbish

The evidence is still that unvaccinated people are at greater risk.
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   Old Thread  #3069 26 Aug 2021 at 4.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes, hence why I havenít had it!

Hopefully they offer this vaccine booster to elderly and vulnerable only as the evidence is stacking up that itís pointless vaccinating everyone.


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   Old Thread  #3068 26 Aug 2021 at 4.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís after 6 months. Imagine after 9..
Theyíll have to time immunity peaks from boosters at high season in the vulnerable wonít they?
I hope the vaccines turn out safe with long term exposure too. Does it concern anyone?
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   Old Thread  #3067 26 Aug 2021 at 3.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Except it does.

And 30 per cent is still better than 0 per cent

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   Old Thread  #3066 26 Aug 2021 at 2.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would prefer NONE to be even considered based on all the evidence available for a virus that simply doesnít affect them!

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Would you rather children could be forced to have the jab because of their parents wishes, or would rather children had their own free choice?
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So the big push begins for 12-15yr olds to be jabbed, possibly without consent of parents.........

With the vaccine being shown to be only 30% effective after 6 months why oh why would they be going down this route......
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   Old Thread  #3063 26 Aug 2021 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Life for me has been back to normal for months and months. What restrictions are in place that are making your life difficult?
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   Old Thread  #3062 26 Aug 2021 at 6.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Remember when people thought that if they were compliant all this would go away & life would go back to normal 😂
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I Was never a fan, Iím chuckling a bit at the fact the evidence now shows jabs make no difference to the fact you can pass it on like a non jabbed person!

So many sold a dream to get the jab to protect yourself and OTHERS.......seems itís just yourself.......

Which now totally invalidates the stupid passport idea........

Edit - Mal have a read of the FDA approval and the fact it shouldnít be approved.......FDA Approval........
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You leaving the boris fan club again Wayne?