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   Old Thread  #16 22 Feb 2021 at 4.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think that most bait if uneaten creates water quality issues.
Maggots are often rich in ammonia even before going in a lake, although the better you look after them the less they produce.
If for example you have a 2pint maggot tub, don't put more than 1pt in it. (Half fill any tub)
Keep your maggots cool and fresh. Do NOT remove all the sawdust, or if you do, put some fresh in. The sawdust helps prevent them sweating and giving off ammonia. Maize meal I found, doesn't keep them as fresh as sawdust.

The other thing about maggots is the quantities that get put into lakes; one angler uses 2 pints, someone else sees them catching, uses 4pts etc, and so on. At least maggots do get eaten by other species as well as carp, but anglers turning up and firing in gallons at a time can't be good.

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   Old Thread  #15 21 Feb 2021 at 9.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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2 anglers dropped on our syndicate when active 8 was on fire, not kids and kept themselves to themselves

They used the same hook links as their reel line and hook bait was either shellfish b5 or Icelandic reds, can't remember, reel line was 15lb sensor

Anyhow they fished single hook baits 1 popped up and one bottom bait, never put any freebies in whatsoever, 2 rod rule.

They caught the most on the lake by a large margin.

I tried it but struggled to get my head round it.

Single hook bait fishing, how about that for a thought

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   Old Thread  #14 20 Feb 2021 at 1.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
scozza makes a good point - I avoid spots like that. bunch of muppets throwing truck loads of the latest craze as far as they can....

call me cynical, but perhaps the maggot ban on some places is to encourage buying 'our own pellets' ... usually in large quantities.

and the fact that - when done right, they'll catch anywhere at any time of year which puts the sponsored bait crews to shame....?



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   Old Thread  #13 20 Feb 2021 at 10.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Unfortunately whether it is maggots or a maximum total of bait per day as a rule, there will always be rule breakers trying to find an edge. Somewhere like Linear it isnít possible to monitor everyone and how much bait they use, simply trusting everybody wonít work as surprisingly people lie 😲 If a fishery bans a bait, leadcore, barbed Hooks etc and you donít like it donít fish there. If the fishery loses business as a result it is their own fault, but I am sure people will fish at venues who stand by their values and rules for a refreshing change.
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   Old Thread  #12 20 Feb 2021 at 9.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree. Comes down to good fishery management for me

Over the years I have fished a lot of waters and some of the popular ones predominantly on a social basis. The amount of bait that goes in on some is unreal and when you watch what goes off people are not getting the returns on their investment so to speak, the opposite, itís killing the fishing and changing carp habits

Iíve seen countless anglers roll up and just Spod out buckets of bait out, usually as far as they can! and not take a fish. If the truth be know unless they are regular waters and they can reap the rewards by putting some serious time it is just a complete waste of bait. The only benefit for the water is there is always a plentiful supply that fattens the owners fish up, until it goes off and ruins it

It kills the fishing, fish come out in sporadic patterns too. A lot of anglers are more conditioned than the carp. Have bucket of bait and spod rod, must use it and fill it in!

Canít be that difficult can it, a maximum of 2kg of bat per 24 hours

The flip side of the coin there must be some proper crap dropped in too
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   Old Thread  #11 20 Feb 2021 at 8.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I could understand a limit on Maggots if they're being piled in, same as any bait really. Too much of any bait isn't going to do the water quality any good, but to ban them completely seems strange. I think Linear still allow them, but only a couple of pints a day. Seems sensible.
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   Old Thread  #10 15 Feb 2021 at 7.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair point, Well made....
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   Old Thread  #9 15 Feb 2021 at 9.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They donít pile weight on the fish like boilies and pellets so fishery owners donít want them used by everyone. Simple as that really.
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   Old Thread  #8 15 Feb 2021 at 7.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #7 14 Feb 2021 at 10.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would argue that itís the the idiot majority that spoil it for the minority baiting the granny art of it
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   Old Thread  #6 14 Feb 2021 at 9.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As usual the idiot minority spoil it for the sensible majority...
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   Old Thread  #5 14 Feb 2021 at 7.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Same reason nuts, tigers and peanuts are banned on lots of waters. Successful bait, everybody gets on it, more and more goes in. For some the action slows down, more goes in and so on. Becomes a baiting competition. Fish and water quality start to suffer. Bait is banned. I have seen some ridiculous amounts of bait going in waters.
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   Old Thread  #4 14 Feb 2021 at 12.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #3 14 Feb 2021 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #2 14 Feb 2021 at 12.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think it's down to them being used in stupid amounts, rotting and causing ammonia/water quality issues, I may be totally wrong though
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