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   Old Thread  #11 3 Feb 2021 at 6.30am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
And surely the resistance of the main line would equate to a once or more surely
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   Old Thread  #10 1 Feb 2021 at 10.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree.
Not many situations you need more than 3 oz in my opinion.
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   Old Thread  #9 29 Jan 2021 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Heavy leads help with setting the hook (and casting to a point) but generally work against you elsehwere - such as landing fish and sinking into silt.

Now that super sharp hooks are available, I rarely go above 3oz
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   Old Thread  #8 28 Jan 2021 at 2.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Heavier leads may help with initial hooking of fish, personally I don't use light leads unless zigs anyway.
But how they react I have found interesting last year...
I was getting 1 or 2 beeps (delkims on - and sensitivity 4) getting fish kiting 30yds+.
Changed to from 2.5oz to 3.5oz leads, still the same.
Used heavier bobbins and delkims set to + and 6 sensitivity, fish now weren't kiting as far as before.

Only 2 out of 14 runs were screamers, rest all kited.
Fish ranged from doubles to low 30's.
Not up against islands either.
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   Old Thread  #7 28 Jan 2021 at 11.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .think it depends on the water and maybe how the fish feed / react when hooked . . .

My current syndy has a 1.5oz 'semi-fixed' lead limit (for leadclips/helicopters/inline) . . .anything over 1.5oz must be dropped (MCF dumper clips / Korda Heli-safe / Drop offs) which is daft IMO as the water is not particularly snaggy, and counterintuitive in terms of using a helicopter anyway . . .

I started using light leads on a standard clip (within and up to the limit) but was getting a lot of aborted takes so moved up the weight range as an experiment. Now using 5/6oz leads as standard, no matter the range and these are presented with a baitboat and dropped on a tight line. Results have been fantastic, although indication is still marginal - no screamers, just a couple of bleeps and I'm striking on the rod tip nodding most of the time.

Def reckon the fish in my lake just 'hover' once they pick up the bait in an attempt to shift it . . .once pr*cked by the heavy lead they don't try and move it any further by panicking and bolting - hence me lifting into the fish / striking and setting the hook in effect . . .

Could be that I'm doing something others aren't of course - MCF clips do dump the lead with impunity and some aren't either willing or cant justify the in doing this so they stick with the 1.5oz limit . . .
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   Old Thread  #6 25 Jan 2021 at 7.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fished with a baiting spoon all year and done well with standard 2oz inline leads, most I could tell on the waters were using larger. Brought some 4oz ones to change if I felt / observed the fish getting away with things, they wasn't needed.
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   Old Thread  #5 23 Jan 2021 at 7.36am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Back in the late eighties a friend of mine used 2oz leads with 2oz bobbins. Worked on the same principle as your spring-arm indicators.
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   Old Thread  #4 21 Jan 2021 at 2.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can only answer this based on my own fishing which is 99% of the time with spring arms as well balanced as I can to the size of the lead which is a bolt rig. Most short to medium range work I use 1.5oz or 2.5oz, I have never used much over 3oz other than for distance work where I may need it to balance undertow etc as mentioned, or for running rigs and then the skies the limit. I have seen captive leads well over a pound being used on some very big waters, but these are not leads as such, more cast flat leads with line clips in them.

Using springers properly you know if a fish tries to do you and it very rarely does (to my knowledge). Now you could say it's happening but you you don't know about, but if you set up a spring arm properly you will know every time the lead moves as it should be set up to pull the lead back to you if it's disturbed, basically a double bolt rig...it can be infuriating when crays are present.

I watch a lot of these modern programmes like Fox The Challenge and I see the 'go to' leads being 4oz plus, and I just think why, but each to their own. I guess I'm from a different time where you worked things out for yourself as opposed to just copying what others who are trying to sell you something says works.
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   Old Thread  #3 21 Jan 2021 at 7.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some bigger waters, like Rainbow, a big lead is sometimes used to keep the rig in place where severe weather may prevent a moved bait being 'recast'. The distances being fished, a big lead is needed.

Ynnek points this out in his post, he uses a heavier lead when fishing in this country at range.

There has been a theory, that even at short range, a big heavy lead will produce proper runs. Big heavy, say you and most other anglers normally fish 2oz lead on the water, instead you lower the bait in with a 4oz lead. Fish don't know how to deal with it, result screaming run.


I tend to fish lead size relevant to the TC of my rods, on my 2.75lb TC's I used a 3oz lead, on my 3.25TC's I use 3.5oz. I use the best casting weight lead for my rods, no matter what distance I am casting, and I may fish at different distances. I can pick up any of my rods, and know that if I need to I can give it a big chuck. I also don't have to worry about different lead size.
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   Old Thread  #2 21 Jan 2021 at 6.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I adjust my lead size to the distance i'm fishing.
3.5oz is enough to set a sharp hook, but for boating out over 120m I use 5oz leads.
I never have the intention to dump a lead and never had a hook pull due to the big leads.

I'm fishing 95% of the time a semi fixed lead system.
The weight of the hook is used to set the hook...
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   Old Thread  #1 21 Jan 2021 at 5.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I am curious to get people's perspective on lead choice in terms of sizing. There seems to be a divide between thought on lead size i.e. are bigger leads better for setting the hook than light leads? the argument for light leads delving from the premise that carp find it harder to use the weight of the lead to throw the hook. You do see a lot of anglers on the continent e.g. Rainbow using big 10oz leads with short rigs to ensure the hook it truly set before dumping the lead from the clip.

Naturally you won't be casting a 10oz lead and you won't be dropping a 5oz lead on light weed, where a small 1oz lead will be more preferable. To pre-empt people's replies that it will depend on the fishing situation, in a hypothetical situation where the bottom is fairly uniform and hard, you can use a boat/spoon or drop a rig in the edge, what is the consensus on lead size..... without making a innuendo.... does size really matter and is bigger always better?
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