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   Old Thread  #68 14 Jan 2021 at 9.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I played around with using Breakaway Impact Shields to keep the rig streamlined for distance casting. The beads fixed in place up the line with PVA and hooklink held down onto the Impact Shield with PVA with PVA for casting.
I did try using Impact Leads with the wires taken off.
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   Old Thread  #67 13 Jan 2021 at 9.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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to be honest mate I was being tongue in cheek



but... If I'm fishing two carp rods, 9 times out of 10, one of them will be fishing near margins and will very often be the more productive...
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   Old Thread  #66 13 Jan 2021 at 9.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree. One of my other waters is very up close and personal. Donít think there is a chuck further than 45 yards.
This other water in question the fish hold up at at set distances. If you can get there, itís very rare to see a blank off the two pegs in my OP. Yes you can catch at times off other pegs at this time of year but you are up against it though and have to expect to blank at least 7 times out of Every 10.
Just want to maximise my chances by been able to get there if you can get on said pegs.
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   Old Thread  #65 13 Jan 2021 at 8.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Another Frank tip. One problem if fishing over silt is it enters the water so cleanly it plugs a long way in. Stops the lead tumbling in the air.
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   Old Thread  #64 13 Jan 2021 at 8.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Will have to think about that.
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   Old Thread  #63 13 Jan 2021 at 8.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
you're all missing the point here

the further you cast, the further you've got to wind in if you catch. waste of time and energy.

and...

you're letting the damn fish win - if you put your bait closer to you then they'll have to come and get it won't they? stop pandering to them with their 'oh I'm a carp and i'm only going to eat stuff that's 180 yards from the pegs' attitude. bloody entitled guppies! lazy too.

sod 'em

cast out 10 yards and they can bloody come and get it. and you'll save money on all that spod crap too as you can just chuck it out by hand.




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   Old Thread  #62 13 Jan 2021 at 8.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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And superglue dart flights onto the end of the tubing!
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   Old Thread  #61 13 Jan 2021 at 7.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Problem with using PVA tapeis that it doesn't allow the bait to move away from the leader and lead. The gemini Arc leads are perfect. Very similar to the Frank Warwick idea with sea leads. Do search for Gemini Tackle and bobs your uncle. Or on offer at the Tackle Box.
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   Old Thread  #60 13 Jan 2021 at 6.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Currently using Heli set up to try and increase distance. Not thought about PVA taping the hook link to the pin down leader.
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   Old Thread  #59 13 Jan 2021 at 5.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Should of stated 50lb Arma Kord braided shock leader.
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   Old Thread  #58 13 Jan 2021 at 5.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either
Same as, never had much of a problem over bars either with the trailing line. I wouldn't hesitate to go down to .28 or 8lb with a decent leader.
Haven't seen much mention about rigs possibly being the issue either. Using helicopters I used to tie the hooklink to the leader or tubing with pva so everything was streamlined, even used to tie stringers on in the same way at times.
There was a article by Frank Warwick iirc back in the day using sea fishing bait brake off shields for ultra long distance...I know that's not the topic but like Tesco say, every little helps
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   Old Thread  #57 13 Jan 2021 at 12.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not sure when you say '50lb leader' if you mean a braid one or not but I have found with a mono mainline that single change alone makes a massive difference, as there being no stretch the rod compresses far easier
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   Old Thread  #56 13 Jan 2021 at 11.05am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If abrasion is a big issue you should either be using a leader anyway or sacrificing distance for safety (by using heavier BS mainline).

A good compromise is a braided leader (for abrasion and to absorb shock on the cast) and a decent distance mainline
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   Old Thread  #55 13 Jan 2021 at 8.40am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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*see final sentence of post #50
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   Old Thread  #54 13 Jan 2021 at 8.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can remember using 8lb line for carp fishing back in the 1990's. I can't remember many break-offs either, except when using a helicopter running on the leader until we discovered Cox and Rawle beads.

I was hitting over 120metres with 2.25lb rods, Amnesia Shockleader, Shimano 4000 Baitrunner reels and 2.5oz leads.
I now cast the same distance with 15lb straight through, although lead size has increased a bit!

I agree your point about higher breaking strain lines and people fishing where they shouldn't.

I have seen people fishing in areas, casting right into holes in weed beds or right into snags where the fish is going to be damaged, injured, simply by playing it around there on heavy tackle.

For long distance fishing now, as long as the water is weed and snag free, I would be looking at going to 0.30/0.32mm mainline (10/12lb), with either a Grey Greased Weasel 40lb or 30lb Black Amnesia leader on the 3lb rod with 3.25 or 3.5oz leads. I know 3.25 is not a usual lead size, but 1/4-1/2over test curve is often the best casting weight for a rod.

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