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   Old Thread  #488 11 Jan 2021 at 4.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
As far as I'm aware nothing has changed as per this post.

So now you can fish but not overnight

Stopping this now before it goes any further (as per the norm)
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   Old Thread  #487 11 Jan 2021 at 4.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not your pal so let's get that straight you ***** .
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   Old Thread  #486 11 Jan 2021 at 4.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I know of two people who contracted covid after visiting a hospital, one was Boston, the other in Harlow. That was last March. One of them ended up in an ITU for 6 weeks, he was 48 with no underlying health issues. I have had to visit the hospital many times over in the last six months due to heart issues - I am super cautious - you see all sorts coming and going, people not wearing masks (including staff!), lack of social distancing and people all touching the same doors and ticket machines in the car parks, but not cleaning their hands before or after. So, you still think it's odd that going to hospital is high risk? Take your head out of the sand pal
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   Old Thread  #485 11 Jan 2021 at 3.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is this the one we can't get until Spring
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   Old Thread  #484 11 Jan 2021 at 3.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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oh how we all pray for normality hey
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   Old Thread  #483 11 Jan 2021 at 3.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not all doom and gloom
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   Old Thread  #482 11 Jan 2021 at 3.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #481 11 Jan 2021 at 2.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree
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   Old Thread  #480 11 Jan 2021 at 2.36pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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exactly the same here mate....as much as im blessed living where i do, and i have NO reason to moan about not getting out the house...i miss my family and friends dearly. talking on bloody zoom, just isnt me

I ignore the doubters, haters, fools who dont believe this is real. we are all entitled to our opinions, its not until you know people who have caught it and died it becomes really real
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   Old Thread  #479 11 Jan 2021 at 2.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have done everything we have been told to do mate.I have not seen my mum for ages to protect her as I'm still working.Its just getting harder and harder to keep listening to all the doom and gloom.Once all the old and vulnerable have had the vaccine they should let us get on with it
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   Old Thread  #478 11 Jan 2021 at 2.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You should listen mate, simply because you should be a better person
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   Old Thread  #477 11 Jan 2021 at 2.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not helping when social media is full of celebrities and sports people taking the piss.Look at Celtic,lose to Rangers then fly out to Dubai.They have now got players with covid,people see that and think,**** it if they are not listening why should I
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   Old Thread  #476 11 Jan 2021 at 1.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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fair enough - the OP seemed to be taking issue with the essential nature of the work - a decent home for NHS staff is a higher priority than a lot of the other things i'm coming across, hence my sarcasm.

My mam (that's 'mum' to you lot) went in hospital for severe arthritic pain issues just before October Half Term. Then caught covid on the ward. Was moved to another hospital facility for isolation and then physio / pain treatment. Then moved out of there early december (to free up bed space) to a care home with the promise of physio visits - which are yet to happen.

now she's out of the NHS system and into the care system and we are looking at how the hell it's supposed to be paid for.

if the NHS wasn't so stretched because of poor government and selfish individuals then she might have been home before Christmas and actually have been treated.

even my patience is pushed to it's limit with this farce

edit - and if the people next door to me had builders / decorators wandering around with no masks or distancing I'd be reporting it.

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   Old Thread  #475 11 Jan 2021 at 12.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you should consider it as a very strong possibility yes... I am not saying that is ok, I am just stating what reality is! Not going to doctor/hospital for stupid reason or as a result of stupid behavior is imo at the moment more important than some other measures...
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   Old Thread  #474 11 Jan 2021 at 12.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I know precautions are taken I also knows doctors and nurses are being made to go into work showing symptoms.I know someone who was told she had tonsillitis not covid and to get on with her job.No shock to find she did have covid and had been in work for days with it
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   Old Thread  #473 11 Jan 2021 at 12.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So if you go to hospital you should expect to catch covid
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   Old Thread  #472 11 Jan 2021 at 12.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Didnít say it wouldnít be from being in hospital mate. Just highlighted that precautions are taken on the staff. A lot of cases of covid are people catching it in hospital. The data is there to find.
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   Old Thread  #471 11 Jan 2021 at 12.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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you cant be surprised if people get sick in places where all the sick people get together can you? hospitals are not some SF movie just places where sick people go to...
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   Old Thread  #470 11 Jan 2021 at 12.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well my mates mum has not left the house in four years (due to ill health).She has been fine throughout,she has been in hospital a week and has now got it.Im not a betting man but I would put money on where she has caught this from
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   Old Thread  #469 11 Jan 2021 at 11.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Would that not be down to ineffective PPE in the workplace as well as their own fault. Depending on their job inside the NHS, which could be admin staff for all we know, anyone on any ward has to do 2 covid tests at home per week. At least they do round my way, Iíd assumed itís a universal thing and not site specific. So there really should be little risk of them taking it in and spreading it.

If theyíve had their first dose of the vaccine they also become less likely to pass it on.
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   Old Thread  #468 11 Jan 2021 at 11.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you are missing the point Mr sarcasm,if they are around all these trades not following guidelines then going into the hospitals its not good.My mates mum has just caught it whilst in hospital after suffering a stroke
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   Old Thread  #467 11 Jan 2021 at 11.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Have you raised this with them?

Rather than a Carp Forum
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   Old Thread  #466 11 Jan 2021 at 11.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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no... why should NHS workers have a decent place to live? how dare they get people in to renovate their house when the poor lads could all be out fishing....
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   Old Thread  #465 11 Jan 2021 at 11.09am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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NHS staff are refusing to have the vaccine, having the builders in is at their own risk. Or maybe theyíve had the vaccine so see it as less of a risk if they get it.

No one is paying much attention because everyone is sick of it now. Stumbling from one lockdown to the next with little offer of hope for the end of it. Then they bring out scare tactics such as the new adverts of people dying to try and scare people in to following the rules, it didnít work with cigarettes, do they really think itíll work with this?

Until a solution and timeline is offered no one will pay attention. Too many ifs and buts and fantasy talk doesnít give people hope, it indicates it doesnít matter what people do, the situation wonít change.
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   Old Thread  #464 11 Jan 2021 at 10.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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2 NHS staff have bought the house next to me and are having it renovated by all sorts of trades. No social distancing, no masks and not what I consider to be essential work.
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   Old Thread  #463 11 Jan 2021 at 10.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's come at a very unfortunate time not because I want or need to go fishing that can wait it is because we were right in the middle of draining, de-silting, sorting out the stock and fencing my mates lake between ourselves/syndicate the travel restrictions and stay at home has put paid to this for a while, oh well back to the essential key work that is construction.
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   Old Thread  #462 11 Jan 2021 at 10.15am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yeah mate, no gives a flying f£ck
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   Old Thread  #461 11 Jan 2021 at 10.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree but won't make the slightest bit of difference unfortunately
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   Old Thread  #460 11 Jan 2021 at 9.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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even so, i can still see things coming in
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   Old Thread  #459 11 Jan 2021 at 9.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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They can say what they want but people are not listening anyway.There is not enough police to enforce the laws and let's be honest I can see why people are not listening.Boris is a bumbling idiot who nobody takes seriously and he's handled this situation really badly from the start.
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   Old Thread  #458 11 Jan 2021 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i can see stronger restrictions coming soon
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   Old Thread  #457 11 Jan 2021 at 9.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolutely correct. In the absence of firm clear rules people do what they want, find loopholes, excuses etc without thinking whether they should.
This doesnít only apply to fishing but looking at the amount of people in the towns and on the roads this lockdown is a joke.
Perhaps when people lose someone close some might change their thinking.
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   Old Thread  #456 10 Jan 2021 at 5.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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As itís open to individual interpretation people will do as they see fit. The police have been told itís down to the individual officer to make their own call on it, so people have the same freedom. If it boiled down to it then a police officers opinion is not a valid reason for prosecution. Plenty of loopholes out there if you want to go find them.

Lakes arenít rammed, itís not like it was after the spring lockdown last year.
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   Old Thread  #455 10 Jan 2021 at 5.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Angling Trust Guidelines on their website:

How far can we travel to go fishing?
Only local travel is permitted for the purpose of daily exercise as set out in the Governmentís travel guidance here

This specifies the Ďlocal areaí Ė ie. town, village or part of the city in which you live. However, there is a recognition that there will be a need to travel for outdoor exercise. This should be done locally wherever possible, but you can travel a short distance within your area to do so if necessary (for example, to access an open space).

Anglers will need to apply commonsense and judgement in defining their local area rather than fixating on parish boundaries. A lake or river in a neighbouring parish may well be closer than one on the other side of the same town. In short, you should be fishing your nearest available waters.

If you have no local fishing available then you will have to take your daily exercise in other ways.

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   Old Thread  #454 10 Jan 2021 at 5.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think what the government meant to do was simply allow people out for a day in the open and keep them out of the parks and take away cafťs, which are actually busier than a normal January. But anglers being anglers are making it 100 times more complicated than it needs to be.
If folk want to go fishing, then just go.
If not, donít.
If they told us how many beans make 5 people would find a way to disagree over that too.
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   Old Thread  #453 10 Jan 2021 at 4.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Iím sure you realise that by local they mean close to home and not nearest park/ lake etc which could 10 or even 20 miles away.
The rule makers are obviously busy but perhaps they need to give a bit more thought and clarify what they mean by local, especially to help curb those who will push things to the limit.
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   Old Thread  #452 10 Jan 2021 at 4.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just going on what they were saying on social media about plenty of swims being free.
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   Old Thread  #451 10 Jan 2021 at 4.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's governed by council district - if you read down into the guidelines, that's how local is being interpreted. I drove 22 miles to fish today and 22 back, zero problems. In fact, chap a few swims up was a copper - he'd come a similar distance within the same CD and saw it the way it is. Unlike the over zealous tits handing out fines in Derbyshire.
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   Old Thread  #450 10 Jan 2021 at 4.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thought farlows was frozen over.
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   Old Thread  #449 10 Jan 2021 at 2.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is it not all relative? If you are allowed to go fishing, the police canít force you stop an activity thatís allowed. If your nearest fishery is down the road or 10 miles, that is your local fishery is it not?

Not quite sure what all the fuss is about anyway, banks arenít rammed due to time of the year. Farlows has been quiet, fair weather anglers are all at home.
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   Old Thread  #448 10 Jan 2021 at 2.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
As per the government website about staying local...Stay local means stay in the village, town, or part of the city where you live.
It's all pretty simple really but many seem to want to confuse the issue and guidelines.
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   Old Thread  #447 10 Jan 2021 at 10.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Donít say that, they will all be on with their conspiracy theories
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Never got religion, think it was a way of controlling the masses?

A bit like Cov..... oh hang on
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One up the road from me, packed this morning, I guess this could be where the new generation of swingers hang out though?

Never got religion, think it was a way of controlling the masses?

Doesnít bother me, Iím a Jedi
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At least you can go to church
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   Old Thread  #443 10 Jan 2021 at 10.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can see why to be fair.

As usual nothing is clearly defined, put a 10 mile boundary on travel for exercise for example and some will travel 11 and 12 etc. There has to be defined restrictions to police it properly for me
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   Old Thread  #442 10 Jan 2021 at 9.34am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Derbyshire police have issued a statement saying that all the fines are going to be reviewed and cancelled.After the two women went to the papers about it,thats what I heard on the radio yesterday
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   Old Thread  #441 10 Jan 2021 at 9.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís an interesting one and open to misinterpretation as usual!

They drove 5 - 7 miles so the alarm bells should ringing. It seems to me itís from when you step out of you door your exercise begins!

I know Derbyshire police are having a crack down but 5 - 7 miles is virtually nothing!
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   Old Thread  #440 10 Jan 2021 at 8.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I'm not sure if anyone has already said this?
The word 'district' has been dropped from the AT guidelines, it now says you have to stay 'local' in accordance with government rules for exercising. There isn't any advice as to what local means, but there were several people fined £200 in Derbyshire yesterday for traveling 5 - 7 miles from home (not to go fishing).
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   Old Thread  #439 10 Jan 2021 at 8.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well said
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   Old Thread  #438 9 Jan 2021 at 8.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair enough.. All I will say if you have really got to go. If it helps your mental well being I totally understand. But for F@$is sake stay local limit your contacts keep your distance sanitize your hands. This s@#t is real. Only just lost someone close to me because of it
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I can't say, against Forum rules and not appropriate to name people anyway. I suspect something will surface on social media, as I gather they intend to contest the fines. There's always someone willing to chance it - I know for fact there are bivvies on one water. It's very foggy today, so maybe they think no one will see them? Chap who runs that syndicate doesn't seem to care - he told a mate of mine who did the day for pike on the same water, 'it's up to them if they want to risk it'. Not so sure I agree with that, but as someone else has said, it's not exactly the first thing on my list of things to do in this weather... bloody freezing out today. I'll probably go lure fishing down the local river tomorrow - at least I can cover a lot water and get some excercise doing it
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   Old Thread  #436 9 Jan 2021 at 2.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I once caught a small common with a spinner ,on my local river and caught it again within 5 minutes of releasing it !
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   Old Thread  #435 8 Jan 2021 at 7.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Had a couple of hours lure fishing this afternoon and thoroughly enjoyed it I did not see a soul. I'm out again tomorrow afternoon for a few hours feeder fishing on the local river for Bream of all species.
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   Old Thread  #434 8 Jan 2021 at 7.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Name and Shame... us as Anglers dont no how lucky we have it. But its idiots like these that always want to push the boundaries. We are aloud to fish for f@#ks sake it might only be days and local. Think of the petrol you'd save and nights are **** this time of year anyway.
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Sounds great mate in a lovely part of the world. Tight lines
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   Old Thread  #432 8 Jan 2021 at 1.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Taken from https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home.
If you do leave home for a permitted reason, you should always stay local - unless it is necessary to go further, for example to go to work. Stay local means stay in the village, town, or part of the city where you live.
I live in a moderate sized town with it's own council, so have have taken it to mean the area covered by my local council to whom I pay my council tax.
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Clearly c..ts of the highest order.
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Where is this thing of "district" mentioned, anyone got an official link to a source?
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   Old Thread  #429 8 Jan 2021 at 12.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No mate, a Darwen Angler - surrounded with masses of still waters and Rivers, I fish a couple of private beats on the Ribble/Calder, and also the Darwen too - fish them all for Barbel, Pike, Grayling, Chub, Dace, wild Brownies etc.........

I just hope the Trout season does not get screwed up this year again, especially if due to the antics some some selfish, self-centred, me-me-me, Carp Anglers!

It's took less than 24hours for it to start
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   Old Thread  #428 8 Jan 2021 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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who are the two "well known" anglers
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   Old Thread  #427 8 Jan 2021 at 11.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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didn't take long did it?

you're right - idiots like this will show that 'common sense' can't be relied on - as it doesn't exist

I've a couple of reservoirs within a walk of mine - but I'll be avoiding them so as not to run into carp anglers from Kent - and these two...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-55560814
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   Old Thread  #426 8 Jan 2021 at 11.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've never seen so many anglers desperate to go fishing in the depths of winter. Maybe they like the sound the lead makes when it skims across the ice?
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   Old Thread  #425 8 Jan 2021 at 11.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I know, but some people are clearly as thick as mud and can't work it out. Council District. Doh! Just search online with a postcode of a) your home address and b) the post code of the water you want to fish. If they fall within the same Council District, that's local. How hard is that?

Yes, there will be some winners and losers - I have a couple of waters less than 10 minutes drive away, but they are in a different district, yet I can legally fish another that's half an hour away. Just the way the cookie crumbles. Just be grateful you can go FFS.

BTW chaps - two anglers have been fined for breach of lockdown on a water in cambridgeshire that a mate of mine runs... they travelled up from kent to fish it this morning... they would have had a warning and just be told to go home, but one of them got ****ty with the police, hence the fines (well known carp anglers BTW)... it's idiots like that which will see it banned in lockdown.
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   Old Thread  #424 8 Jan 2021 at 10.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Seconded.

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   Old Thread  #423 8 Jan 2021 at 8.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You know what else is simple...?

'Stay at home'

just saying
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   Old Thread  #422 8 Jan 2021 at 8.33am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot-on....but we all know there will be those that push the boundaries, just as they would do for anything else because they are either ignorant or stupid, or both....

If i want a couple of hours fishing I am limited to a stretch of the Grand Union Canal and that is literally it....and that resembles milk chocolate after the recent storms and is largely devoid of fish anyway.....
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   Old Thread  #421 8 Jan 2021 at 7.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't know how things could be any clearer?
You are only allowed to exercise/fish within your own district (government rules). Districts have clearly defined boundaries, they are not a matter of personal opinion. Two minutes using Google and you can find out exactly which district you and your preferred fishery are in.
Really simple.
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   Old Thread  #420 7 Jan 2021 at 11.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Angling trust have made this way more confusing for everyone than it should have been
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   Old Thread  #419 7 Jan 2021 at 10.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Personally while the below is happening at my local hospital where my wife works I won't be breaking lockdown to go fishing, permission or not.


bbc news link
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   Old Thread  #418 7 Jan 2021 at 9.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree Keith, are you a Settle Angler? I've an S&DAA ticket for on the river this winter but it's out of my area so can't use it. Got a couple of Cheshire river tickets that are local so glad I can use those this winter for predators
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It's all a bit daft.... I live half a mile in a county that is X district council, I travel into a neighbouring county every day for work which is the same postcode as home, but different council. It also contains my syndicate where we are allowed to fish. Same postcode. So am I really going to drive away from my venue which is ten minutes from work into a different (my home) district to fish, which would be a journey of about twenty miles, or just carry on fishing my peaceful venue, on my way home from work, where I won't see a soul but apparently breaking some made up geographical law and surely bound to wipe out the global population because I want to fish for a few hours after grafting all day. Mind you, from what I've read on the internet over the last few days it wouldn't be an entirely bad thing if the global population was wiped out... No wonder people are confused and arguing.
Explaining the above to any police officer would result in them being as bored as I am writing it. I'll be told to stay safe and be on my way. Just be sensible, don't be a dick and be nice. The amount of anglers taking the moral high ground, preaching to strangers with no knowledge or understanding of their circumstances over the last few days has been terrible. Humanity really has shown it's true colours and sheer lack of brain cells. Any sign of open mindedness, free thinking or rational judgement has been shot down by self appointed conformist legends in their own lunch break. It's really sad.
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   Old Thread  #416 7 Jan 2021 at 8.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The government are using specific language with not too much ambiguity. Best to check your water and find out really.

What I will say is it's a bit unfair in a sense of say you live in a small village and compare that to London for instance.
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   Old Thread  #415 7 Jan 2021 at 8.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Common sense.
Well done Angling Trust.
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Nor is "local" the same postcode. That could encompass large areas.
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District is not county
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Probably means same County that you live in. I think most commercial fisheries and fishing clubs will decide to remain closed, but I could be wrong.
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What a result I just need to check if my local club is going to open if not a few hours lure fishing on the river will do .
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   Old Thread  #410 7 Jan 2021 at 4.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gov.uk says - local area = village, town or part of the city you live in.....
told you....confusion all round
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   Old Thread  #409 7 Jan 2021 at 4.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But the vast majority of Angling is not into fancy camping antics are they Joss.

Carp Anglers forget Ė they are only a small slice of the Angling Pie.
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Post 403 might give you a clue
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   Old Thread  #407 7 Jan 2021 at 4.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree, clear as mud, but if you read through the Government guidance, you will see that local is defined as your local area, which is your district council. Just tap in your postcode and then the post code of where you plan to fish, if they are in the same area, you are OK. For example, I am in Uttlesford and thankfully, that encompasses both my primary syndicate water and several club waters. Happy days. Couldn't give a stuff about no night fishing, in many ways that's a good thing - meaning less pressure on the fish and a level playing field every day. Will people follow the rules? Absolutely fecking not based on what I've seen over the last 9 months of this ****...
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   Old Thread  #406 7 Jan 2021 at 4.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
All credit to the Angling Trust, a bit of common sense prevailed at last

This time of year itís Grayling and Pike fishing for me, and I walk miles and miles of river banks in pursuit of them.

On a private stretch with zero public access - fishing dawn till dusk just over a week ago, spoke to one person all day (Another member) But the opposite bank which has a public walkway along it - literally 100's of the general public out walking.

Whatís the problem
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Agree with you...
More confusion....how many miles is local......can you fish after dark but not midnight...can you cook on the bank ala camping....etc etc etc ....yawn.
Think the AT would have been better leaving this for 5-6 weeks to see if things have improved then start campaigning.
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   Old Thread  #404 7 Jan 2021 at 3.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think as carp anglers itís worth realising carp are not the be all and end all. Plenty of roving river anglers, lure anglers, etc that are part of the sport.
Iím also not sure about you but barrowing a load of kit around a lake is what I would deem exercise.
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   Old Thread  #403 7 Jan 2021 at 3.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fishing as exercise? Really? Like the 20 stone bloke at the day ticket water...rocks up with 2 crates of Stella and 200 fags, sets up (3 fags) thenn sorts out the Ridge Monkey cooking stuff and makes couple of toasties to see him through til the Indian delivers his dinner.....all the while knocking back copious quantities of Stella and the odd spliff........some sort of exercise that is...
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I think the government have based their decision purely on watching the Christmas episode of Whitehouse and Mortimer.
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As sports go It's right up there with darts
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   Old Thread  #400 7 Jan 2021 at 3.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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spot on
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Perhaps they think all anglers / fishermen are mature responsible people.
Perhaps they havenít read a few of the comments on here.
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You know salmon season is coming right...
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Totally agree
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   Old Thread  #395 7 Jan 2021 at 2.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Im amazed this has been passed to be honest. Fishing...exercise? Come on now.

The AT have in theory done their job but the whole idea of classing fishing as exercise just to circumnavigate restrictions put in place for the benefit of our population is beyond selfish and blinkered. There are bigger issues facing the UK right now than whether people can go fishing.
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   Old Thread  #394 7 Jan 2021 at 1.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The roads are way quieter! I'm doing Bedfordshire down to Surrey right round the M25 in "rush hour" traffic in just over an hour, half the time it was taking a few weeks before Xmas
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Yep, i agree. They give people too much credit but presuming that they have common sense, will do the right thing and giving them a bit of leeway

Roads dont seem any different than normal to me either
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Cor, some of you lot, a right barrel of laughs.

Must be a right chuckle coming across ya on the bank you bunch of minj's.
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I'm still amazed that fishing is classed as a sport. I normally return home fatter than when I started. Still at least I can tell the doc that I'm exercising regularly
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Yeah, the campers can become a tad annoying.

Just waiting for an update on my place. Not too bothered about fishing, it's my pre baiting for the spring that had put a spanner in the works. Whoop whoop.
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I agree mate, not only that how many more thousands of people are going to take up the sport, the waters are rammed as it is. 🤔
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I don't know why some of you are still moaning - fishing back on. OK, you have to stay local, but it's better than nowt. No night fishing? Good! Means I don't have to worry about swim choice as some time bandit is camping for the week (was happening a lot on my local water).
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I tend to agree
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   Old Thread  #385 7 Jan 2021 at 12.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
No doubt I'll get destroyed for this but it totally undermines the governments 'Stay At Home' message and its not something I'll support. The fish will still be there when people have been vaccinated.
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il start day 6 haha "Sun Paper" :P
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Thanks for posting

Shall we run a sweep on the date for the first headline along the lines of 'Anglers told to go home after driving 100 miles to catch carp'....?
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The Head of Sports Participation at DCMS confirmed the following;
ďfishing is allowed as exercise so long as participants adhere to the rules on staying local, gathering limits, social distancing and limiting the time spent outdoorsĒ
This has also been confirmed by DEFRA;
ďCabinet Office have now officially confirmed that angling / fishing (incl. sea fishing off private boats, water sports) can be considered exercise and are hence permitted.Ē
We have worked extremely hard to reach this position and we as anglers have a duty to abide by the strict conditions under which fishing is once again permitted. With infection rates and death tolls rising we must stick to the Governmentís rules and ensure that angling remains part of the solution and does not cause problems.
Please bear in mind these key points which will be reflected in the new Angling Trust guidelines which we will publish shortly:
- This is a strictly limited resumption of LOCAL fishing and very different to how we have been allowed to operate since May
- We are in a National Lockdown and this must be respected. The law requires a Ďreasonable excuseí to leave your home or penalties will apply.
- The government has recognised that fishing can be seen as exercise, which is expressly permitted under the lockdown rules, although outdoor recreation is not.
- Organised sporting gatherings are prohibited so no match fishing.
- The exercise is limited to once a day so no overnight fishing whatsoever.
- To remain within the law you should follow the governmentís guidance, and only fish locally within the district where you live. If you have no local fishing available then you will have to take your daily exercise in other ways.
We are once again able to enjoy the sport we love at a time when many others can not and we must ensure that every angler adheres to the rules.
I would ask all anglers who are not members to join the Angling Trust and give us your support. We have worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome and that is only possible thanks to the support of our new and existing members. I would ask all anglers who value their ability to go fishing to make the same commitment as your fellow anglers have and join the Angling Trust. We are stronger together!
Membership - Angling Trust https://anglingtrust.net/membership/
Stay safe and very best fishes
Jamie Cook
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. .

I'm now buggering off to the river . .
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Their agenda has missed the whole point of the pandemic.

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exactly Joss......and it looks as though they have achieved their objective with Facebook full of people saying, "well done AT, I am signing up now".....
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and what the dam difference between night and Day with regards to infection rates
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"no overnight fishing whatsoever" so presumably a limited period ties in with that, few hours along the river for example....and locally within the district where you live.
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But for a limited period... What ever that means?
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No night fishing at all tho unfortunately so I wonít be going for a day session
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Everyone can go fishing now although not for the night.......get that car loaded peeps and off to the frozen lakes you go......
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   Old Thread  #373 7 Jan 2021 at 11.38am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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its wrong...very wrong, they are self appointed and represent no one really
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   Old Thread  #372 7 Jan 2021 at 11.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree Joss, I am finding the AT's stance a bit cringe-worthy at the moment..
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   Old Thread  #371 7 Jan 2021 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Statement from the Angling times


The team at the @AnglingTrust are about to release a full statement with guidance for fishing safely and sensibly. Our thanks go out to all those who have worked on anglingís behalf to get us back on the banks.
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   Old Thread  #370 7 Jan 2021 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yeah agreed

no mention in there of the absolute need for people to go fishing of course....
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   Old Thread  #369 7 Jan 2021 at 11.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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why the hell the AT cant just have discussions with government behind closed doors is beyond me without spouting it all over social media

It appears to me that they are trying their hardest to recruit support and membership and forgetting the main covid issues.

i cant say im overly impressed at all with their action at the moment.
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   Old Thread  #368 7 Jan 2021 at 10.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well that's cheered me up, sad, shocking but true unfortunately
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   Old Thread  #367 7 Jan 2021 at 7.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agreed on that point!
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Well , this is how we got to where we are , the whole sorry episode !

stink .

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   Old Thread  #365 6 Jan 2021 at 10.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But furlough alone is costing 14 billion a month and thereís jut shy of 33 million working age adults in the uk. Thatís before the loss from business tax and tourism.
Itíd take an eternity to see a return.
Sorry but thatís nonsense
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   Old Thread  #364 6 Jan 2021 at 10.33pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So that next year theyíll increase EVERYONES taxes to cover their losses.
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   Old Thread  #363 6 Jan 2021 at 9.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #362 6 Jan 2021 at 9.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Breaking news.... All might not be lost.. the Angling trust have asked the goverment to reconsider there stance on Angling over the latest lockdown...
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   Old Thread  #361 6 Jan 2021 at 9.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #360 6 Jan 2021 at 9.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brilliant mate, happy times and memories

Took my daughter on a few sessions, never stuck with it sadly, to be fair, who cares, least I tried. Must be nice if you can get your kids to go with you though, best company in the world
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   Old Thread  #359 6 Jan 2021 at 9.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My daughter and youngest step son love it,took them loads in the summer.Got a lovely picture of them together holding a carp each they caught
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   Old Thread  #358 6 Jan 2021 at 9.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trent has some places with wonderful river Carp and clonking barbel all near a line of boats
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   Old Thread  #357 6 Jan 2021 at 8.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sounds like you have a few budding future anglers there Braders
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   Old Thread  #356 6 Jan 2021 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep I'm definitely the biggest kid she looks after
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   Old Thread  #355 6 Jan 2021 at 8.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I knew there must be a reason why she would put up with you Braders
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   Old Thread  #354 6 Jan 2021 at 8.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not a bad idea
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   Old Thread  #353 6 Jan 2021 at 8.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think I may just retire to a canal boat so no fishing restrictions, just need to find the best location to live on one.
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   Old Thread  #352 6 Jan 2021 at 8.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I go occasionally,when I'm allowed by Mr Balls it up Boris
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   Old Thread  #351 6 Jan 2021 at 8.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree work is more important but so is my mental health sorry but I was convinced you were only ever a forum carper on the advice of your shrink.
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   Old Thread  #350 6 Jan 2021 at 8.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My wife has our 3 at home and she is a self employed childminder,she loves kids so I need to escape somehow
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   Old Thread  #349 6 Jan 2021 at 8.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree if done sensibly then yes. You like me get to go to work see people etc. My mrs is stuck at home with 4 kids and soon be pulling her hair out, so if I was to say I need to go fishing for my mental health you might find me divorced on plenty of fish 🤣
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   Old Thread  #348 6 Jan 2021 at 7.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I agree work is more important but so is my mental health.I have stuck to every guideline going and will continue to do so to keep myself and family safe.I just think fishing could be allowed still
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   Old Thread  #347 6 Jan 2021 at 7.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would call work more important than fishing tbh well depends who you are
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   Old Thread  #346 6 Jan 2021 at 7.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Still little or no change in habits for some. Apparently a town near me was just as busy as normal according to a local shop keeper (via email).
Some canít seem to work out how the virus keeps spreading and people keep dying, yet still thereís pressure to go fishing, mix as normal etc.
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   Old Thread  #345 6 Jan 2021 at 7.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It should be allowed for people's mental health,I can go into work everyday with 300+ people but I can't go sit by a lake in fresh air on my own.1000 deaths today,yeah ok I believe they were all covid.Lets keep covid though as its cured all other illnesses as nobody is dying of anything else these days
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   Old Thread  #344 6 Jan 2021 at 7.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís all very well saying fishing and golf etc should be aloud but letís be honest half the numpties would drive half way round the country to get on a lake. So In the current situation, no it probably shouldnít be aloud
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   Old Thread  #343 6 Jan 2021 at 7.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
1000 people died TODAY yet still some are saying its not real go figure ?
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   Old Thread  #342 6 Jan 2021 at 6.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Could be the reason we can't go fishing
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   Old Thread  #341 6 Jan 2021 at 6.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There was one that didn't have his nose in the trough , the one who suffered the smears and the lies , someone may be daft enough to recite some after this post !

Wear a mask , do your fu**ing bit !
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   Old Thread  #340 6 Jan 2021 at 6.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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to most of the comments posted, get real people!! As a friend of mine said a while back this thread is a complete waste of time and should be locked, political threads are not really relevant to a carp forum. Should we still be fishing, yes and playing golf, yes, going to supermarkets, beaches, parks, walking or running along streets are all far more dangerous.
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   Old Thread  #339 6 Jan 2021 at 6.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The current government are **** - but so are too many of the idiots who elected them

Sadly I can't think of any party worthy of voting for. All pigs at the troth, just wearing a different mask.
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   Old Thread  #338 6 Jan 2021 at 6.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Am just watching yet another film from an ICU, this time in Lodon. Time to say it. The naysayers are beyond the pale and the lies, paranoia, fake news, quack science and callous self justification and smug remarks mark them for the mindless idiots that they are. Do not give them anymore responses. Let them scream in the dark. Sorry, but for me, no more.
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   Old Thread  #337 6 Jan 2021 at 6.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
dear god some people are bloody clueless

the numbers who have contracted covid / been hospitalised / lost their life are all within the context of lockdowns, restrictions, distancing, school and work closures etc. I'm no fan of Boris and his cabinet of idiots, but if none of these measures had been put in place then the figures would be so much higher. and if more people had engaged with the guidance properly instead of thinking they know better because they read something about masks on facebook or they were just bothered about catching a sodding fish, then the figures would likely be lower.

the 'flu kills more' bull**** brigade conveniently forget that simple point. of course.

noj - don't bother asking logical questions. you're not dealing with logical ideas here mate. The current government are **** - but so are too many of the idiots who elected them

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If a system becomes corrupted , always follow the money , who's benefitting and how have they done it , large corporate lobby groups have corrupted our capitalist system for obvious reasons , like avoid paying tax , who can honestly tell me that any of Boris's front bench are not attached to dirty money , our press and media are not fit for purpose this is when alternative news sources fill the vacuum ,the outcome is chaos , undeniable . We are in a bad place !

2008 we were £700 billion in debt and suffered 12 years of austerity

2020 at the end of this we will be £3 trillion in debt , last night they said it's "not a problem "

As Tinhead likes me saying , they have had our pant's down !
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   Old Thread  #335 6 Jan 2021 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I have no idea if there is some double secret agenda. All I can do is best guess as to the reasons why things have panned out the way they have and apply logic.

What I will say is that looking at the numbers death wise, all of this does seem like some massive over reaction, coupled that with the fact that if anyone says anything to the contrary within the media sphere, they either get called a loon (conspiracy nut) shut down or de-platformed, not that there's anything out of the ordinary there if you bother to even take a glancing look at the lopsided/unquestioning media with the never ending wars that we've all been accustomed to for instance as an example.

Something else to muddy the waters: I've read here and there that the idea of climate lockdowns are being punted around the world economic forum. Something worth investigating for yourselves if you can find the time.

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   Old Thread  #334 6 Jan 2021 at 5.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It certainly seems that way, ill be alright though cos im not 60 till april 😂😂
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   Old Thread  #333 6 Jan 2021 at 5.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly it puts these conspiracy theories down the toilet. And what about all those with long COVID (they say 1 in 5 is getting) , Iíve a relation who 2 months on is still struggling and has been diagnosed with long COVID and canít walk 100 yards without getting short of breath, he has a family to provide for.
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   Old Thread  #332 6 Jan 2021 at 5.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Great question
I almost asked that myself a couple of days ago but wanted to stay out of this as much as possible
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   Old Thread  #331 6 Jan 2021 at 5.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
A genuine question for those who say we are being led up the garden path. Why would governments want to hand out billions of quid for people to stay home and lose millions in tax revenue by closing businesses
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   Old Thread  #330 6 Jan 2021 at 5.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not to a lot of carpers.
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AMEM to that mate!

end of day, thats all that matters, staying safe and ensure others we love are safe also.
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   Old Thread  #328 6 Jan 2021 at 4.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A Covid just flew over my house

All out of a very conservative 70million population.

I'm literally shaking.
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   Old Thread  #327 6 Jan 2021 at 4.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's not just the amount of people who die it's the amount of people who get so ill they need a hospital bed and the staff to look after them.
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   Old Thread  #326 6 Jan 2021 at 4.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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How many people over 60 have died from covid? Or dont they matter?
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Thank you for your subtle and informative post.
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Nah, itís tens of thousands and all BJ fault.......

why are we locked down
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   Old Thread  #323 6 Jan 2021 at 3.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
If there is any doubt about what the mainstream media are feeding us try this.
Type into google any 3 digit number and beside it write new cases.
FACT. 42 people under the age of 40 have died from COVID.
FACT. 388 people under the age of 60 have died from COVID.
The new so called variant is what we call influenza we contract
Every year.
We are being controlled and conned big time.
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stay safe
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@ Braders and Mal

Didn't realise - apologies. Take care.
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We have an official decision. It is NO. Check the Angling Trust website. We will have to wait patiently for the new "season" to open.
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The thing that gets me is, will almost in the same position as last year, only now we seem to have plenty of toilet roll .
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Question. Can we still go fishing now? Answer NO

no need to thank me happy to help

My mate said to me WELL I don't know if Im coming or going with this lark ? I said easy if its white your cuming yellow your going
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Well said that man
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I'd like to see Mr Salter and the AT put some thought into adding a month before the rivers close this year, restrictions allowing.
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   Old Thread  #315 5 Jan 2021 at 9.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I love how folks have their say and then demand the thread closed.
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   Old Thread  #314 5 Jan 2021 at 9.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only if it's your 1 permitted form of exercise though.

I can't go fishing. I've got to go to work to use my laptop there for online teaching because that's the rules.

And the rest of you can't go because you don't deserve it after all this drivel and pish.

Stay home. Still simple enough eh?
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   Old Thread  #313 5 Jan 2021 at 8.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís like walking round a busy day ticket
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   Old Thread  #312 5 Jan 2021 at 8.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Come on lock it up. Like ****ing 4 year olds arguing. My kids donít bitch this much
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   Old Thread  #311 5 Jan 2021 at 8.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Awww look itís officer Dribble 😂😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #310 5 Jan 2021 at 8.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Please "Lockdown" this thread /post

Cheers
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   Old Thread  #309 5 Jan 2021 at 8.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My wifeís an ICU sister so whatís your point ? did I say Covid wasnít real 🤡
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Agreed. Some proper retards posting utter nonsense.

Mods - lock this down. We can't fish, that's it.
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   Old Thread  #307 5 Jan 2021 at 8.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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More confused nonsense from the most useless inept corrupt goverment in power for years.
.... utter piffle.
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well said
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   Old Thread  #304 5 Jan 2021 at 7.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Boo hoo you can't go fishing for a few weeks, pull your head out of your arse. My missus is a nurse, covid is very real and deadly to far more people than just the bog standard flu.

If you really aren't worried about it, volunteer at your local hospital, let them know you won't need any ppe when washing and feeding the patients. God knows they need all the help they can get at the minute and if you're happy to be exposed to it, it will save a fortune in PPE.


Can this **** show be locked now mods?
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Iíve seen the absolute nonsense you post, Iím pretty sure you pick and choose your Ďpeer reviewedí papers very carefully and start your posts with ĎIím not a conspiracy theorist, butí .....
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   Old Thread  #302 5 Jan 2021 at 7.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What about public flogging & selling their kids into slavery
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   Old Thread  #301 5 Jan 2021 at 7.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So it appears we cant go fishing again
But 22 guys and 4 officials can kick a bag of air about ,hug ,kiss and shake gands with each other
What a joke
I appreciate that this virus needs to be sorted out but its never going to happen with selfish people just doing exactly what they want to do
Up the fines to a minimum of 5k each person. Im sure that they would think twice about doing it again
As for the deniers let ning a few ICU
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Exactly, or they are shot

Now thereís an idea



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   Old Thread  #299 5 Jan 2021 at 7.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Awww the inhumanity 😂😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #298 5 Jan 2021 at 7.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This is why we are in the crap we are in
there is too many selfish humans on this planet that only care about themselves and not everyone around them

Can you not put a filter on the forum that bans the word
Covid or coronavirus
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   Old Thread  #296 5 Jan 2021 at 7.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes itís clear from AT letís lock it mods some folk on this thread are behaving like children and not doing themselves any favours once theyíve had time to reflect on the nonsense theyíve posted.

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Seriously dude, stop feeding the troll. If there's any justice he'll get to drown in his own lung secretions whilst still screaming vaccines aren't a medical miracle.
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Must be all that inbreeding down Bristol way 😂😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #293 5 Jan 2021 at 7.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Fair play to the AT for trying, canít help but think the MPs have something better to do than discuss wether angling is allowed but hey ho.

Roll on the spring 🤞
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British Society of Immunology

Sometimes, however, the immune system doesnít always win this initial battle against the harmful bacteria or virus and you can become very ill or Ė in extreme cases Ė die. Vaccination is the safest and most common way to gain immunity against a bacteria or virus that your body has yet to encounter. Vaccines contain a harmless form of the bacteria or virus that causes the disease you are being immunised against. The bacteria or virus will be killed, greatly weakened, or broken down into small parts before use in the vaccine so that they can trigger an immune response without making you sick. Your immune system will still attack the harmless form of bacteria or virus from the vaccine and will produce antibodies to fight it off. The immune system then keeps a memory of the disease, so if a vaccinated person encounters the disease years later, their immune system is ready to fight it off and prevent an infection from developing.
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   Old Thread  #291 5 Jan 2021 at 7.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ah i shall believe mydr.com over the who, the PHE and the NHS as they're clearly all lying and if you'd read more than the first line on the page it clearly states there are other types of vacinnes which don't contain them.

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STATEMENT FROM THE ANGLING TRUST ON THE NATIONAL LOCKDOWN RULES IN ENGLAND

Whilst the regulations have not yet been published we have been informed this evening by the Cabinet Office that the Government have taken the decision that fishing will not be permitted during this national lockdown period. Whilst this is disappointing news I would ask anglers, fisheries and clubs to respect these rules and the reason they have been put in place; to help save lives and support the NHS.

Individuals should not go fishing from midnight tonight (5th Jan) and clubs and fisheries should close their waters to anglers. We will be publishing more detailed guidance on specific areas like bailiffing and fishery maintenance once the Government regulations have been published.

Over past few weeks we have been in communication with the Government at the highest possible level. We have presented a strong case on how fishing could continue safely during the third national lockdown. We have explained that fishing benefits physical health and mental wellbeing and that it is regularly the only form of activity individuals undertake. You can read our representations to Cabinet Ministers here -

https://anglingtrust.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Angling-and-outdoor-recreation-in-COVID-lockdown-3_DCMS.pdf

My team and I have consistently presented the arguments ahead of the changing government guidelines, which have allowed fishing to remain permitted continuously since the first national lockdown was lifted in May. We have been successful when other sports have not as all anglers will know.

However, with 60,000 new infections announced today the Government have taken the decision that leaving home for recreation or leisure, including all forms of recreational fishing, should be prohibited in England during this third national lockdown period.

I thank you for your support and for being a credit to our sport. As members, you can rest assured that the Angling Trust will continue to represent our sport at the highest level and will present proposals for the resumption of angling when it is safe and sensible to do so. We will come through this period of national crisis. We will fish again, but until then, please, stay safe.

Jamie Cook - CEO Angling Trust
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   Old Thread  #289 5 Jan 2021 at 7.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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weird fckers more like but they stick to what they are told
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Awww the irony😂
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   Old Thread  #287 5 Jan 2021 at 7.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Donít contain antibodies 😂😂😂😂

https://www.mydr.com.au/travel-health/vaccination-and-antibodies
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Typical response from someone who reads too much believes what he reads but doesn't actually understand the subject,
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PMSL

Lucky buggers
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   Old Thread  #284 5 Jan 2021 at 7.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well it's official.
We can't go fishing 🎣

Please lock my thread now

One day we will be back out blanking like a good un AGAIN

Keep safe peeps


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   Old Thread  #283 5 Jan 2021 at 7.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What ever you say 🤡
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   Old Thread  #282 5 Jan 2021 at 7.00pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
while you lot keep on arguing, people in wuhan are out on the piss cuddling each other..
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   Old Thread  #281 5 Jan 2021 at 6.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Wrong again,

Vaccines don't have to contain antibodies,

Vaccines teach your immune system how to create antibodies that protect you from diseases.

It's much safer for your immune system to learn this through vaccination than by catching the diseases and treating them.

Once your immune system knows how to fight a disease, it can often protect you for many years.

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   Old Thread  #280 5 Jan 2021 at 6.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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. . .Tru dat! Perhaps we have a meeting of minds after all . . .

Belch out . . .
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   Old Thread  #279 5 Jan 2021 at 6.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Itís official. No fishing from midnight tonight
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No he didnt,

Typical conspiracist changing words, he said restrictions may have to return in the winter, amazing how one word can change everything.
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   Old Thread  #277 5 Jan 2021 at 6.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What donít you understand about the meaning of true sense of the word poppet 🤡
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   Old Thread  #276 5 Jan 2021 at 6.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In the true sense of the word, there are no 'complete arse holes' on this thread, but in the generally accepted sense, there are plenty.
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   Old Thread  #275 5 Jan 2021 at 6.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think this thread needs to be locked now. Only so much **** you can take in a day.
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   Old Thread  #274 5 Jan 2021 at 6.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes belch......
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   Old Thread  #273 5 Jan 2021 at 6.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It isnít a vaccine in the true sense of the word you ⛑
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   Old Thread  #272 5 Jan 2021 at 6.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You said it isn't a vaccine.

It is

Epic fail
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No it was on the BBC 🤡
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Whitty has just said Covid restrictions until next winter 😂
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Doesn't need to, did you read that on Facebook as well or watch it on youtube?

Protein subunit vaccines include harmless pieces (proteins) of the virus that cause COVID-19 instead of the entire germ. Once vaccinated, our immune system recognizes that the proteins donít belong in the body and begins making T-lymphocytes and antibodies.
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Then I guess the statement that Chris Whitty has made must be bollox then but hey you know better than the chief medical officer 😂😂😂😂
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Where have they announced this? All Iíve seen from them is they are waiting for the guidance/regulations to come today and then make an announcement once theyíve gone through it but both their Facebook page and website havenít been updated yet
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As long as the vaccine does it's job , we will be over covid by June , i promise !
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Was that a secret message or something?
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It does work as it reduced the infection rate and r number of the virus on each lockdown, it was never the plan for a lockdown to eradicate the virus.

It was done to help the hospitals manage the numbers, it's always been the plan until a vaccine arrives, the new variant is spreading faster so reduction of opportunity to transmit is the best defence until enough people are vaccinated.

It really isn't that tricky to comprehend and it certainly doesn't involve 5g and microchips.

I'm guessing you believe all the rubbish about empty hospital wards the magna carta crap. Just a question did you consent?

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Most likely
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i know. and he's also involved with the angling trust,
so must off been discussed with all involved ?
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Also the Covid vaccine isnít a vaccine in the true sense of the word as it contains no Covid antibodies unlike other vaccines just a load of chemicals
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I have nothing jeeez Iíve given you ONS NHS WHO stats & I have nothing 🤡
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Funny enough, a club martin Salter is heavily involved with
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Youíre wasting your time mate 😉
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You have nothing
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AT have announced fishing to cease
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has Polio been eradicated . . . NO
has Ebola been eradicated . . .NO
has AIDS been eradicated . . .NO
has Tuberculosis been eradicated. . .NO
has Chicken Pox been eradicated . . .NO
has Hand Foot & Mouth been eradicated . . .NO
has Cholera been eradicated . . .NO
has Rabies been eradicated . . .NO
has Influenza (and all its multiple strains) been eradicated . . .NO

Will Covid 19, 20, 21 21.5 etc be eradicated . . . .? NO

The ONLY virus ever eradicated is Small Pox . . .200 years after the vaccine was first administered . . that's a long time to continue with regular lockdowns, let alone stop peeps fishing . . .(LOL)

The BEST we can hope for is global herd immunity, (hopefully supported by an 'effective' vaccine) and the sooner this occurs the sooner we can all crack on.

In the interim the question is this - what is more inhumane -

a slight spike in deaths to an already afflicted baby boomer generation (that actually have already had a better innings than any of the rest of us will probably ever do - no war / job security / standard of living) . . .?

or

the serial destruction of civil liberties, businesses, families, culture, mental health, kids education and a future laiden with further unemployment, debt and general unrest . . .?

This isn't going away - make your own mind up on what's appropriate given the circumstance . . .
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**** me fella itís like pulling teeth with you 😂😂😂
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reading and district angling has just announced all reading waters to be closed and locked up from 9am tomorrow
so it looks like fishing is on the lockdown list ?
so i wonder what other clubs will do now ?
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So how do you know they have failed if you dont know the reasons why they have been set out?
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AT have announced that fishing will not be permitted 😉
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Nah Iím just going on the results of the last 2 or the fact that most of Europe is going into a 3rd lockdown 😉
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Why, do you know the governments aims and objectives with this one?
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Thread title change required `why can't we go fishing may be better`
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As this one will fail 😉
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Some sense at last 👏
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Also people are still dying in the countries with low covid rates. The average annual death rate in the uk is about 1400 people on a good day without covid I think
I keep an open mind about it, but play the game to help out
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😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #242 5 Jan 2021 at 5.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19

If you get stuck on some of the bigger words let me know.
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Exactly 😂
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WHO? The organisation that denied the existence of covid 19 and then tried to cover it up.
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Our lockdown failed because it was lockdown in name only. Melbourne locked down for 3 months, $5k fine straight away for breaking it and police with the ability and man power to enforce measures.
Also the virus ran through and survived in our health and elderly care systems.
If motion sensing drones with ar15s on board patrolled the uk and killed anybody outside during, say, a 28 day lockdown to account for subsequent household transmissions; it would be biologically nigh on impossible that a virus could survive.
The problem is the health service and the ****s
Everyone always quick to point a finger at those at the top while praising the likes of Japan and New Zealand clearly havenít been there or have but missed the fact they have something we donít... not just vast areas of uninhibited land. Community
We are a nation of ****s who we hate eachother
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   Old Thread  #238 5 Jan 2021 at 5.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Awww whatís up got nothing to prove your argument!! 😂😂😂
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You rest your case so youíre saying ONS NHS WHO stars are dodgey surely that mitigates your entire argument 😂😂😂
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That was the joke Trigger.
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Omg your a complete waste of my thumbs fella, tell you what carry on do what ever you like but when you or someone you loves needs an icu bed because of not following guidelines, I hope you don't get one
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Unfortunately we canít because of lockdown 😂😂😂😂😂
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I rest my case
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You lot all need to get out more.







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Yeah they really work donít they 😂😂😂 dodgey Twitter accounts you mean ONS NHS WHO 😂😂😂😂
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Or they do work and that's the reason why we are having another one, clearly you have zero information on this subject, probably apart from some dodgy twitter accounts, and you have come up with nothing to suggest they dont work. Enough said
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   Old Thread  #228 5 Jan 2021 at 5.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So what youíre suggesting is that we stay in permanent lockdown 😂😂😂
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So the fact weíre going into a 3rd doesnít suggest to you that they donít work !! The WHO have stated they donít work but hey what would they know 😂😂😂😂
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   Old Thread  #226 5 Jan 2021 at 5.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's a proven fact you degenerate, that each lock down has temporarily slowed the spread, lowered r rates and reduced pressure on the NHS its only when we've been out of lock downs that it all starts increasing again, because people don't follow the conditions properly. Conversely all you have to offer is 😂😂😂😂😂
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As I said, you seem to be privy to government information as to how why the lockdowns were introduced, please enlighten us all as to why they didn't work? I'm sure you'll have that information somewhere up your sleeve
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Nah youíve got nothing you clown 😂😂😂😂
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Your points are so ridiculous I donít need to prove youíre an idiot - youíre doing a pretty good job by yourself.
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Awww still nothing to disprove anything ive said Phil !! Now be a good little boy & roll up your sleeve 😂😂😂
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Swerving what question 😂
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Still swerving the question I see
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Donít worry, once heís got his microchip the 5G will finish him off.
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Awww another 🤡 that canít see his argument is utter crap !! Like I said why are we going into a3rd lockdown if the infection rate has been lowered by the last 2 lockdowns
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I expect he's giving up as you have no argument you just talk utter💩
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You said lockdowns reduce the infection rate they clearly donít or we wouldnít be going into a 3rd 🤡
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Yes thatís why.
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You give up because your argument isnít working 🤡
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I give up. You really are a bit special.
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   Old Thread  #212 5 Jan 2021 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Your a complete mate read what I've written I've never said it will eradicate it and neither has the government.
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Still didn't answer my question?
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But they havenít stopped the increase of the virus or is someone telling lies 😂😂😂
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So if it reduces the spread why are we going into a 3rd 😂😂😂😂
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You seem to think that the lockdowns have been intended to beat the virus. Not sure where youíve got that idea from.

The lockdown is intended to slow the spread of the virus so we donít overwhelm the NHS. By slowing the spread this buys time for the vaccination program to get to the levels needed for the restrictions to start being relaxed.

It really isnt that hard to understand surely?
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So go on then what do you think will happen when we come out of this one ? The virus will still be in the general population or do you think itís going to miraculously disappear this time unlike the past 2 times 😂😂😂😂
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Every lock down we've had has reduced the spread, are you really that dumb that you don't understand that
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That's why we're back in lock down to try stop the rise, I'm starting to think your just trolling as you just argue everything but don't offer anything, if you know better ways enlighten us.... Oh no you don't do you?
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I'm assuming you're privy to what goes on in government meetings, and know the aims, and objectives of each of the lockdowns?
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Címon are you really that dumb no# 3 😂😂
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Yes, so what makes you think they dont work?
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What makes me think they arenít working doesnít the no#3 give you the slightest clue 😂😂😂😂
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But hospital admissions are going up arenít they 😂😂😂
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What makes you think they arent working?
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Conversely, there are rake loads of smart, independently minded doctors/specialists saying the opposite to what's being spoonfed to the masses, strangely though, non of those highly esteemed big brains ever get put on the telly to give their opinions, weird that, don't you thinks?
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It's not working because people like you don't want to follow the guidelines, and all the plebs that still meet up with friends and family because the don't want to be controlled by the government.
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If it reduces cases in hospital admission then yes, but enlighten us please we are all waiting for your amazing solution that no medical expert has come up with
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Did I say I knew how to solve it ? Anyway you seem to have put your faith in lockdowns & the vaccine good luck with that as it seems to be working spiffingly so far 😂😂😂
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I honestly didnít know there was so many well Informed scientists on the forum. I thought your all over weight balding blokes picking your nose and bum. I would give my 2 pennies worth but think thereís enough spouting ******** already.
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So when weíre in the 4th 5th lockdown will they still be following the correct path 😂😂😂
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I'm suggesting people follow the guidelines, and that those that don't only have themselves to blame if they contract covid and spread it to their loved ones. The purpose of the lock down is to reduce pressure on the NHS and slow the spread, this it achieved. But seeing as your such an expert how about you tell everyone how you'd solve the pandemic cos we're all ears.
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According to some they dont work, apart from nearly all the worlds governments have taken this approach by listening to some very experienced, clever people, but matey here on carp forum reckons they are wrong
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Ive had a few bites today to be fair.
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Spanky is right, always right......
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So can we fish? lol
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Do you live in isolation then
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As your profile pic suggests you live on the moon don't you !
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So the 1st one worked but because it was relaxed !! Oh dear so what youíre suggesting is permanent lockdown 😂😂😂😂
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How to stop a virus , come on everyone , stop introducing the virus to new victims , ffs , no wonder we are in this shi*
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The first lock down did as a whole work its only because they relaxed the rules that things went t#ts up, and largely the public are to blame, for eg my wife's entire family all currently have covid just because her aunty didn't follow guidelines and visited her parents when she had a cough and didn't tell anyone luckily my house hold did follow the guidelines and didn't come into contact with any of them over Christmas or we'd probably have it aswell. The fault of their infection lies solely with my wife's aunty no one else's.
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Didnít think you could you just keep in listening to what the MSM feed you 😂 Lockdowns donít work or is the 3rd for just fun or are you waiting on the vaccine to save you 😂
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They knew this was coming yet shut down all the nightingale hospitals which cost millions to construct yet only had about 40 cases admitted
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Do I really need to prove you're wrong when you're literally saying 'lockdowns don't work' ffs
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If the NHS get over run at this time of year it will be a shi*storm ,something that the government will not recover from politically , same goes for if the nhs runs out of oxygen again

Their is a huge lack of trust in our media and politicians for obvious reasons , they lie so much !
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   Old Thread  #177 5 Jan 2021 at 4.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Címon then Phil still waiting for you to disprove anything Iíve said 🤡
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   Old Thread  #176 5 Jan 2021 at 4.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I love my fishing as much as the next person, but this thing is I feel is bigger than a debate can we or canít we go fishing. The rationale here is about reducing the potential need to use a emergency services and by limiting the amount of us moving around assist in reduced contact of spread ( less people in hospitals), the potential of anybody being involved in a situation where you need a emergency service ( accident while travelling etc), limited people to those that are needed to be at work etc, does reduced the amount of us moving around...less people equals less risk.
No matter how you justify it fishing is not essential and even though you as a individual are on your own, away from others the fact that you are there does increase the risk, the fact that you travelled there increases the risk, so for me the only thing that we should be doing is being responsible for our own actions and in those see the need that to go fishing is not essential, buckle down and just stay at home as much as you possibly can unless itís essential that you canít.
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   Old Thread  #175 5 Jan 2021 at 4.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Think you've nailed him with that one
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