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   Old Thread  #314 23 Feb 2021 at 3.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is that the venue that you get free fishing at?
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   Old Thread  #313 23 Feb 2021 at 2.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I had trips in March, May, June, September and November 2020 cancelled/rolled over. The March one was rescheduuled for March 2021 but has been rolled over again. Got credit or refund on the others. There is one venue I will crawl over broken glass to visit so that one can be rescheduled/rolled over as much as it likes!
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   Old Thread  #312 22 Feb 2021 at 4.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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My sentiments exactly.

I am into a lake on behalf of our group for the best part of 6k for a cancelled week last year that was kindly rolled over to tag onto this years trip so, 2 weeks on a commercial when I usually struggle to stay with it for one week !

I will be sticking to the Publics in future with no once a year social with friends.

Still uncertain if this 2 week trip in June will go ahead.
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   Old Thread  #311 22 Feb 2021 at 4.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's a real shame but it is what it is. I've been enjoying a couple of Euro trips a year for many years. Last year's trips were cancelled and this year's well, who knows. The costs seem to be going up year on year and the hassle, including this bait issue, is leading me to think enough is enough. I think I have lost the will to book years in advance.
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   Old Thread  #310 22 Feb 2021 at 4.15pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah if the will is there....as it stands to get the necessary DEFRA approvals and EHC's will be a time and financial investment for small/medium co's and probably a few of the big co's too.... that's got to be absorbed somewhere and for a lot it will be difficult to get it over there at a sensible cost as things stand and won't be worth doing.

Guys not being able to go through customs with bait will be a big hit for most and after the last 12 months we've all had I think there'll sadly be a lot less choice come the end of the year...
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   Old Thread  #309 22 Feb 2021 at 3.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So if it's true it can be done by a small bait company so logically the big boys should have no trouble if the will is there.
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   Old Thread  #308 22 Feb 2021 at 2.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Part of Angling Direct allegedly so ok if you don't mind accountants making your bait and hence the clout/money/licences to export.....
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   Old Thread  #307 22 Feb 2021 at 2.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Apparently they are making in the UK, Exporting to Germany then distributing throughout Europe.
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   Old Thread  #306 22 Feb 2021 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Shelf life too
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   Old Thread  #305 22 Feb 2021 at 1.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Isn't Munch Baits an English bait company or am I getting confused.
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   Old Thread  #304 22 Feb 2021 at 1.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Etang Saint Pierremont February 2021 update
Our updated website is now live.
Some of last yearís lake record catch pictures have been added together with an additional BAIT page.
With the new rules concerning what can and what canít be transported across the channel regarding fishing bait we have introduced a new service for not only our booked guests but to any fishing parties wishing to have a high-quality European fishing bait delivered directly to the lake of their choice a few days before their arrival. https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
There seems to be lots of mis information especially on social media about taking bait abroad, so we have done some investigating and got the facts together
The facts areÖ
There is no fine for private individuals if you are caught with banned substances (Meat & dairy) by the French border inspectors, it will just be confiscated and destroyed, if you deliberately try to conceal the banned items (Bait) then this becomes more serious and you may be charged with smuggling!
Certain social media groups and individuals believe the ban on meat and dairy will be removed by the start of spring to accommodate British fishermen, with some individuals stating the French donít want to lose the English fishermenís revenue, this is highly unlikely as the EU ban on certain meat and dairy products is not new it was introduced in 2002 Following the 2001 Foot and Mouth Disease epidemic within the EU, the European Commission considered that the mechanisms in place to prevent the introduction of personal consignments of meat, milk or their products should be strengthened across the EU. It seems highly unlikely that the EU are going to Change laws just for the English to be allowed to bring bait into France, it would require all the member states to vote on it unanimously and of course the struggling French bait suppliers would lose out on sales.
There appear to be many reputable bait companies across Europe, many have been around for years, we as a lake have considered many and have chosen MunchBaits to be our supplier for the foreseeable future. View the range and our delivery service at https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
We will continue watching what is happening regarding Uk travel and French border controls and as each groups holiday becomes affected, we will contact our guests accordingly by phone before your scheduled arrival date to discuss options to choose the same week in 2022 or later this year if available.
In these uncertain times with new announcements being made regularly by both Governments the only guarantee we can make is that none of our booked guests will lose their bookings. Once the Borders restrictions are relaxed, we will be open as normal and will be ready to personally welcome our Guests once again.

Taken from their f/b page. Never used this bait have no idea what its like, also never paid £13 a kilo . If you buy 10kg it works out at £8 kilo, if you buy this bait from Angling Direct you can get 10kg for £62.98, £17 cheaper. This I believe is whats going to happen, lakes will supply bait some known some not, at inflated prices so adding to the cost of your trip. How confident will people be using a highly priced bait you`ve never heard of? Is it just paperwork that allows bait companies to send the same bait to Europe that the anglers would like to take themselves? Does the ban also apply to all the pots of pop ups, wafters and hookbaits that all anglers carry?
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   Old Thread  #303 30 Jan 2021 at 1.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not forgetting 🙄🙄🙄 , that all that was going on whilst we were trying to negotiate a deal , it was a game of poker where you show the worst hand and don't blink . Even the EU negotiators were saying they did not believe it would go to WTO , but they did blink , all part of the game . The thing with article 15 is that for years the EU said they were worried we would use it , and no mater what you say about the u turn , there is no way this was not authorised by the very top , who were prepared to do so. For all our sakes the bad feeling now across the water need to settle , bridges need building .
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   Old Thread  #302 30 Jan 2021 at 12.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not after an argument either JK
Its just so many people have been so quick to jump on the EU over this and as far as I can see they made a massive cocktail up and U turned within hours. If Ireland were a big factor in the decision it just goes to show that a small country such as Ireland has a lot of control over these decisions.
The UK government was happy to break International law and was condemned worldwide just a few months ago and consistently threatened a no deal exit which would have plunged the Irish border into chaos. I dont think it's suddenly got the moral high ground now that the EU made a very brief, painfully embarissing balls up.
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   Old Thread  #301 30 Jan 2021 at 10.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not arguing Jim as this has been a semi sensible thread for once but they invoked article16....fact. Pretty sure they could of done there due diligence another way and pretty sure it wouldn't of been done without all the legal issues/reprecussions discussed at top level because that's what the EU does. The immediate back lash from just about everyone including the Irish was more a factor in the backtrack me thinks.

Darkol, yeah agreed and maybe some of the other pharma co's are helping behind the scenes... you'd like to think so but it's all about money to some and I would imagine intellectual property is a problem for a lot of them, especially for the new types of vaccines. To my knowledge AZ are the only ones not doing it for profit.

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   Old Thread  #300 30 Jan 2021 at 9.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If Boris had done that I'm afraid it would be viewed different to your explanation 🙄🤔 , but overall the main duty of the government is to get as much vaccine as possible as quickly as possible , and TBH the problems of other country's are low on his priority . He is playing a strait bat , quiet rightly , and quoting a contract . The damage of relations is showing now , shame because some people I have met in France have been fantastic .

Won't stop me taking the kids to euro parks , and hopefully fish a bit , and driving around the lovely empty country .
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