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   Old Thread  #148 19 Jan 2021 at 12.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That looks reasonable to me, as an average probably about right. If you were to include hookbaits, liquids, pellets, particles, it is a viable business opportunity..
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   Old Thread  #147 19 Jan 2021 at 12.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i know on my trips bait is an average of 40Kg per angler...
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   Old Thread  #146 19 Jan 2021 at 12.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Say 1000 anglers come over each week (no idea how many come over, anyone know?) all with 20kg (conservative) that's 20 tons a week by my calculation. All paying say £7 a kg on average that'd be 140k worth of trade a week for the industry or nearly £5 million in a 35 week season.

Those numbers seem right to everyone?
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   Old Thread  #145 19 Jan 2021 at 11.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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regarding overseas bait sales,

its high, as people generally take alot more per week than they do in their uk angling..
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   Old Thread  #144 19 Jan 2021 at 10.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I voted leave , and without doubt things are cropping up that people did not realise , but I always thought it would be a bit chaotic for the first 6 months at least , with people having to change in many ways . The bait thing , within 12 hours I'd arranged bait to be picked up over there , and even if it's not what I use over here, it's not a bad replacement .
I feel for the people in the well thought out posts below, like smaller businesses effected etc , although I'm not sure what percentage of the average bait company's income is reliant on overseas sales , perhaps someone knows ?.

Polish going home ? , I work with loads , lots are only here short term , and with the work place availability over there changing some friends have gone home , brexit or not .

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   Old Thread  #143 19 Jan 2021 at 9.57am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Spot on..
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   Old Thread  #140 19 Jan 2021 at 8.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
What I donít get is that weíve had nearly 5? years, since the referendum, to get things sorted before 1st January this year 🤷🏻‍♂️

These rules have always applied to countries outside the EU and they are not new rules that were made up on 1st Jan. Other countries outside the EU still seem to get their products into the EU and have their processes in place.

But us being the typical British have waited until the last minute and now flapping, huffing and puffing about not having the right paperwork to get some boilies into the EU 😂. The rules are the rules and they have been there for a long time. People like Mainline, Nash, CCMoore etc could of easily of gotten all the relevant paperwork in place so they can export their products. Now itís been left until the last minute itís going to be a big rush and no doubt big costs now to get everything needed in place. Probably hoping for a deal to be put in place and didnít bother to prepare themselves for a no deal

And unfortunately all of these extra cost will be passed on to us customers
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   Old Thread  #138 19 Jan 2021 at 6.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bait shouldn't have been a reason to make you vote either way you're right, however being a member of several Expat groups on Facebook there's a clear pattern forming which I find sad. The larger companies in various different sectors are able to afford the extra man hours and investment into cutting through the red tape, the people left behind are going to be the smaller companies that can't - I've seen a lot of people looking down their nose at 'Freds in sheds' but that's where a lot of businesses start out and there's never been shame in any business staying small (quite the contrary in fact - small businesses often thrive by offering superior and bespoke products and services).
I read an interesting article yesterday by a UK>EU removals firm detailing all the paperwork now needed and predicting the end to 'man and a van' operations due to the administration needed to clear customs which is just one of the many examples to show that less than three weeks in and the signs are its nibbling away at cross border business already, with the little men set to fall first as always.
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   Old Thread  #137 18 Jan 2021 at 11.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I voted leave , and not taking a bit of bait to France for a weeks holiday is a hollow excuse to change .

I will buy bait out there , be it lake specials , or pre ordered French/Dutch/Belgium companies at tackle shops etc .
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   Old Thread  #135 18 Jan 2021 at 10.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Look down a couple of posts
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   Old Thread  #134 18 Jan 2021 at 9.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The Angling Trust are now involved. They are lobbying the Government for a rule change.

https://anglingtrust.net/2021/01/15/anglers-to-challenge-brexit-bait-ban/
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   Old Thread  #133 17 Jan 2021 at 11.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #132 17 Jan 2021 at 11.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There's loads of ways around these new rules. Bait from the UK should still be able to be exported to shops and venues in Europe, it just looks like it'll be a ballache and might increase costs. Theres also tons of bait companies within Europe.
Its a big change but not a terrible one.
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   Old Thread  #131 17 Jan 2021 at 10.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I hope I'm wrong but it 's only January the 17th yet it sounds like your are already resigned doomed to failure.
Granted not everyone but there's a few fair few on here that seem it's not ideal situation but not a showstopper
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   Old Thread  #130 17 Jan 2021 at 10.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The AT seems to think they have the ability to negotiate with Brussels over this... I think they're a little bit out of their league to say the least.
To say that boilies are not going to enter the foodchain because they are used by catch and release anglers shows a certain degree of ignorance too.
Many boilies are used by anglers to fish public lakes and rivers where removing fish for the table is quite commonplace in France and even more so in other EU countries.
Fish are also sold by catch and release fisheries and may end up becoming part of the foodchain - for example, several times in the past we've sold small carp to our local commune for them to stock in the village lake which allows anglers to take their catch home with them. We sold pike to a fish farmer a few years ago and there's a very good chance they became table fish - and we all know pike eat a certain amount of boilies.

We once sampled one of our nuisance catfish and were surprised to find the flesh was quite pleasant.
The following year we took a catfish from a friends lake up the road and did the same thing, it smelt funny, its flesh had a yellow tint and when we decided to give it a miss even the dogs wouldn't touch it. I strongly suspect that it was bait thay had tainted the flesh.

This is well above the AT's pay grade in my opinion.
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