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In reply to Post #1
Is it really that bad, if done sensible?
Well after reading everyone's comments are you going to try them?
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In reply to Post #46
Always the way... It is abuse tho.
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In reply to Post #46
Just read both stories, sad I suppose but self induced 
Davis, kidney transplant same as my mate, it’s mental 
One of the apprentices where I worked weighted 8 stone, 11.5 after around 18 months, crazy. What they should be promoting in gyms is steroid abuse. Like I mentioned below, a lot of unnecessary damage that becomes really apparent further down the line
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In terms of steroids and health google the following.
Richard farmer bodybuilder Gloucester
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Shaun dinasour davis.
Both got messed up on the gear.
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In reply to Post #38
Just train naturally and for the long term, train hard and eat very well and be in it for the long term
Exactly that for me 
Eating right is the big one, fuelling the machine, I have and had a few bad habits 
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In reply to Post #43
not many lost sleep over it..
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In reply to Post #39
I was quite fascinated by the story at one time and as the truth unfolds, exactly that. Got what they deserved by the sounds of it. The old saying, there’s always somebody better
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In reply to Post #40
thats what I meant..bullies..nasty fckin bullies..that could be a different thread though..
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In reply to Post #40
Exactly that for me
If it’s a fare matched fight fair play, I’ve seen and heard of some horrendous stuff. I also know a lot of football hooligans, worst of the lot, safety in numbers, 95% of them are complete cowards when they are on their own. I fell out with a couple of lads I worked with because of that. In a pub before a game one day, about 20 of them. Two young kids come in who if they were 18 I would be surprised. Next thing 20 muppets trying to beat two youths up, ****ing ****ers 
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In reply to Post #39
Or bullies?
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In reply to Post #33
all 3 of them was nasty fckers..
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I started the gym in 1985 at 16, still at it at 51.
Never taken the gear, never wanted to.
A gym owner who I trained with in 85 to 88 ended up doing 20 years on the gear. Now he spends most of his time in hospital hooked up to various machines. He is 54 years old but looks 70.
Even at his peak he looked nothing special.
Seen loads of guys on the gear over the years, big guys but crap physiques most of them.
All the very top guys have great genetics well before taking the gear.
Just train naturally and for the long term, train hard and eat very well and be in it for the long term.
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Not much beats the synthol users,for potentially ruining their bodies.and stupidity, seen some shocking footage on YouTube...
I was always told ,strength comes from within,as long as someone is fit ,toned and healthy as can be expected ,then all is good...
Each to their own,...I guess..
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Ain’t a clue but I’ve heard of Rosie.
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Agree. Its the 2 stone drug rat with the shooter that rules nowadays, not the knuckles
Old Glasgow saying, two good men can rule a street. Not now, its the rats with the guns and knifes
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