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   Old Thread  #89 3 Jan 2021 at 11.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís sounds more profitable than making bait in your shed and selling for 6 quid a kilo.
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   Old Thread  #88 3 Jan 2021 at 10.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yes quite a bit aswell. bit of a twist as in who done it now has come out in the open..
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   Old Thread  #87 3 Jan 2021 at 8.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What a waste of taxpayerís money chasing these **** wits down
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   Old Thread  #86 3 Jan 2021 at 8.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No small time then mate

Crime pays, thatís the reality, big business
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   Old Thread  #85 3 Jan 2021 at 6.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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he has also done for having 2 labs locally in the UK and making the stuff which he sold.
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   Old Thread  #84 3 Jan 2021 at 5.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Linked to 16 tons of royds

Got away lightly there with 6 years, hardly a deterrent with good behaviour etc when you look at what they must have made!

Says he was the fixer, not the main man, there willl be some £ stashed away somewhere

Start work, 6 years in th Nick, retire, who says crime does not pay
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   Old Thread  #83 3 Jan 2021 at 3.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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look up:

Nathan Selcon bodybuilder.

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   Old Thread  #82 1 Jan 2021 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Be interesting to see what they get for that then, think they are a class C now?

People have been at that game for years, buy it over the counter in Spain etc.

Millions £s though, thatís mental. Probably try and spank him on the tax front, be interesting to see if he gets his property repossessed etc

Probably make the BBC news with that lot
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   Old Thread  #81 1 Jan 2021 at 3.31pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just learnt that a bloke from my old gym got busted a year ago for being part in the biggest steroid ring ever.

Him and his gang raked in millions.

Been at it for years.
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   Old Thread  #80 6 Dec 2020 at 12.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly

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   Old Thread  #79 6 Dec 2020 at 11.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #78 6 Dec 2020 at 11.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Treat people on face value, once a **** always a ****

That reminds me of this
LINK

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   Old Thread  #77 6 Dec 2020 at 9.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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All shaved off though and covered in gravy browning Jim, prefer them with a bit of fur myself

Apparently
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   Old Thread  #76 6 Dec 2020 at 9.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Look at the women on the gear, Jawline like desperate Dan body hair like chewbacca and you can see for yourself the size of the genitalia on Pornhub 😂 ...... so Iíve been told
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   Old Thread  #75 5 Dec 2020 at 10.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

Try to resist the temptation , you still have to sort the mess out after !
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   Old Thread  #74 5 Dec 2020 at 9.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ainít that the truth.
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Treat people on face value, once a **** always a ****
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   Old Thread  #72 5 Dec 2020 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Strangely enough my son whose a gym freak has just popped around and we discussed the devastation left behind and in his words he says he canít wait until the time arrives to make a mess of the builder. Heíll have to get behind me and then when heís had his turn thereís a cage fighting mate of my son that has offered to give him a slap......
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   Old Thread  #71 5 Dec 2020 at 8.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Canít wait until the chartered surveyor gets hit for a few quid.


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   Old Thread  #70 5 Dec 2020 at 6.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Currently at just over 100K to put it all right

Make know wonder your angry

You could probably get somebody shot for a fraction of that
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   Old Thread  #68 5 Dec 2020 at 6.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The house was demolished a couple years later due to regeneration programme. I wish some fcuker would demolish this recurring nightmare house of my daughters.

Edit - Having said that we now seem to have a good company who is overseeing the complete devastation those previous vvankers left behind.

Currently at just over 100K to put it all right and thatís without Ďsee my threads regards situation of the buildersí the current mess thatís being uncovered.
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   Old Thread  #67 5 Dec 2020 at 5.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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He died of lead poisoning didnít he
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Said if it wasnít it his ex brother in law he would have sent him round to sort them out

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   Old Thread  #65 5 Dec 2020 at 10.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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did you recommend a builder for the repairs?

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   Old Thread  #64 4 Dec 2020 at 10.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Knew a bloke in 1985, he was 18 and on the gear a competitive bodybuilding. Not massive but huge potential. Doing the junior shows then the main shows. Taking growth hormones and other stuff, got massive, won a British title and hit his pro card. Went over to the States and got sponsored by Ben and Joe Weider. Trained along side all the big names then packed it all in 6 months later when he learnt how much gear all the top guys were on, and was not prepared to take that amount of gear to stand a chance of success.

Took up yoga, packed in the gear, ate the best food on the planet and slowly healed his body from years of abuse.

Reckoned he would have been dead in 5 years if he had continued with the drug abuse.
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   Old Thread  #63 4 Dec 2020 at 9.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ex bro in law obliterated his own house one night.
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   Old Thread  #62 4 Dec 2020 at 8.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Itís the old gypsy saying. Itís not the size of a dog in a fight, itís the size of the fight in the dog

Now those lads do rule by the knuckle

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   Old Thread  #61 4 Dec 2020 at 7.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
To be fair the big steroid meat heads have never been unfriendly in my experience in gyms. When I started out they would always help out and give advice on training and food. Very rarely been offered gear either to be fair.
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   Old Thread  #60 4 Dec 2020 at 7.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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all about range LOL.

bodybuilders are like a side of beef. most of the really big guys I've met have been lovely

you know the fella Cobra from Gladiators. he was a regular at an 'old school' gym I used to go to.
you couldn't meet a quieter less assuming bloke. But he had to LIVE in the gym to get that size plus all the chemicals.

to be fair to him, he cycled everywhere and was also very fit. with explosive power. a cut above.
but I heard him talk about a road rage encounter he had on the way in snd he was clearly shocked. talking about how big the guy was LOL. i think it often masks insecurity
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   Old Thread  #59 4 Dec 2020 at 7.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Size plays the intimidation game. Once saw a bouncer like you mention, massive, get the beating of his life from a lad who could fight / box. Size is not the answer, itís being able to use it
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   Old Thread  #58 4 Dec 2020 at 6.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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sharp response fellah
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   Old Thread  #57 4 Dec 2020 at 6.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Exactly how I started out as a kid, boxing gym, proper **** hole, condensation on the windows and mouldy walls, stinking sweaty pile of gloves in the corner and old rusty weights. It was for training in, brilliant

The type of gyms you mention are the ones I trained in. Worked at one company for 20 years, the gym I used had a weight room and a decent floor area, just a few machines in it. Used to pass it when travelling too and from work, 40 minutes in and out, job done, no major inconvenience to my lifestyle, part of my working day, no excuse, it was just a stop off on the way too and from work when required

I have joined two gyms over the years like the ones you mentioned, signed up,,packed in after two or 3 sessions, full of tanned orange spotty backed monkeys looking at themselves in the bright lights
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   Old Thread  #56 4 Dec 2020 at 6.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
most of these guys would be much better in a boxing gym. self-confidence from genuinely being able to protect yourself
rather than hopeing that wide lats do the job.
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   Old Thread  #55 4 Dec 2020 at 6.47pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Youíd have to be mad wouldnít you?
A mate of mine got big without a gym or juice on a diet of noodles, rice, eggs, biscuits and vegan sausages.. It wasnít overnight, 5 years and 6 months I think
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   Old Thread  #54 4 Dec 2020 at 6.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That doesn't mean a thing to me but after reading what people have said I wouldn't
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   Old Thread  #53 4 Dec 2020 at 6.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Jon Poll Sigmason died of a massive heart attack years ago.

Shame really it was good watching him compete on the telly at Xmas.

Geoff Capes also took a fair bit of gear as well. The owner at a gym I trained at had a mate who supplied him back in the day.

I bumped into Geoff 18 years ago. Not very mobile and the size of a house.
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   Old Thread  #52 4 Dec 2020 at 6.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thatís why when steve Redgrave retired from rowing he still had to train every day but it so intensely and gradually slow it down as the heart is a muscle and he could have had serious problems if he didnít
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   Old Thread  #51 4 Dec 2020 at 5.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Only 1000mg of tren a week
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   Old Thread  #50 4 Dec 2020 at 5.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The users have been around for years but back in the 80ís it was the serious guys using the gear. Now itís every Tom Dick and Harry, including those who donít understand nutrition and training routines.

I put together a home gym 15 years ago and much prefer it too bring around Tom Dick and Harry.

All the best hardcore gyms closed down years ago anyway. Itís all The corporate ones now. Gone are the old school gyms in old warehouses and old factory buildings. Big slabs of iron, not pretty but a good environment to train in.
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   Old Thread  #49 4 Dec 2020 at 5.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is it really that bad, if done sensible?

Well after reading everyone's comments are you going to try them?
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   Old Thread  #48 4 Dec 2020 at 5.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Always the way... It is abuse tho.
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   Old Thread  #47 4 Dec 2020 at 5.04pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Just read both stories, sad I suppose but self induced

Davis, kidney transplant same as my mate, itís mental

One of the apprentices where I worked weighted 8 stone, 11.5 after around 18 months, crazy. What they should be promoting in gyms is steroid abuse. Like I mentioned below, a lot of unnecessary damage that becomes really apparent further down the line
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   Old Thread  #46 4 Dec 2020 at 4.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
In terms of steroids and health google the following.

Richard farmer bodybuilder Gloucester

And

Shaun dinasour davis.

Both got messed up on the gear.
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Just train naturally and for the long term, train hard and eat very well and be in it for the long term

Exactly that for me

Eating right is the big one, fuelling the machine, I have and had a few bad habits
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   Old Thread  #44 4 Dec 2020 at 4.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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not many lost sleep over it..
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I was quite fascinated by the story at one time and as the truth unfolds, exactly that. Got what they deserved by the sounds of it. The old saying, thereís always somebody better
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   Old Thread  #42 4 Dec 2020 at 4.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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thats what I meant..bullies..nasty fckin bullies..that could be a different thread though..
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Exactly that for me

If itís a fare matched fight fair play, Iíve seen and heard of some horrendous stuff. I also know a lot of football hooligans, worst of the lot, safety in numbers, 95% of them are complete cowards when they are on their own. I fell out with a couple of lads I worked with because of that. In a pub before a game one day, about 20 of them. Two young kids come in who if they were 18 I would be surprised. Next thing 20 muppets trying to beat two youths up, ****ing ****ers
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   Old Thread  #40 4 Dec 2020 at 4.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Or bullies?
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all 3 of them was nasty fckers..
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   Old Thread  #38 4 Dec 2020 at 4.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I started the gym in 1985 at 16, still at it at 51.

Never taken the gear, never wanted to.

A gym owner who I trained with in 85 to 88 ended up doing 20 years on the gear. Now he spends most of his time in hospital hooked up to various machines. He is 54 years old but looks 70.

Even at his peak he looked nothing special.

Seen loads of guys on the gear over the years, big guys but crap physiques most of them.

All the very top guys have great genetics well before taking the gear.

Just train naturally and for the long term, train hard and eat very well and be in it for the long term.

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   Old Thread  #37 4 Dec 2020 at 1.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Not much beats the synthol users,for potentially ruining their bodies.and stupidity, seen some shocking footage on YouTube...

I was always told ,strength comes from within,as long as someone is fit ,toned and healthy as can be expected ,then all is good...

Each to their own,...I guess..
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Ainít a clue but Iíve heard of Rosie.
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Agree. Its the 2 stone drug rat with the shooter that rules nowadays, not the knuckles

Old Glasgow saying, two good men can rule a street. Not now, its the rats with the guns and knifes
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These days it only takes them to pi$$ off the wrong person and itís either a meeting with 🔪🔫
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Exactly like that!

Some of my mates were into the body building and some kickboxing, they all worked on the doors. They liked the violence and I disagreed with a lot of it. Some were very decent fighters knocking piss heads out on the doors, for me totally unfair. if you want to fight, go to the gym, otherwise its self defence

Same in most towns I guess, no surprise that these lads get involved with criminal activities too, drugs, taxes!, beatings and debt collections
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Haha should never skip leg day
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Roid rage..

Are these people firey anyway? And it just exaggerates it?

Surley it don't turn placid people in to monsters
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sounds like pat Tate...
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Hmmm bitch tits and a small penis sounds like I don't need them.
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Roid rage?

Shouting at cyclists in Northern Ireland?
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   Old Thread  #27 4 Dec 2020 at 7.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The worst part about knowing these people is then socialising with this thing on little spaghetti legs with big wings and chest.. itís like having a pint with a man size pigeon. Absolutely ridiculous, some of them sit in an office all day lol
Suppose itís all worth it when your guns are firing out of your T-shirt with a trophy shot or carrying a cut loaf and 4 pints of milk back to the car
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   Old Thread  #26 4 Dec 2020 at 6.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Introduce too much steroids it will " feminise", hence bitch tits

So true, forgot to mention, another mate of mine was on the Deca and Sus. He ended up with weeping nipples

Roid range is real, if you have knocked around with people who do roids you will know this, wife beating, anybody beating, canít handle the testosterone levels for me, sends them nuts

One of my close mates used to go off the handle all the time. Told me one day he fell over his back door step, he had gone, kicked all the door in, garden fencing the lot, was laid on the floor punching the step. No good for the metal health either, makes even nice folk into ticking time bombs and raving lunatics. Not to mention the impact on family life too

You can see people change when you know them, brings out the ugly side off people which varies with the amount of gear they are actually taking
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   Old Thread  #25 3 Dec 2020 at 11.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Roid rage? Bit of a cliche. Far more alcohol induced rage out there.
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   Old Thread  #24 3 Dec 2020 at 11.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Agree with most of what you say here
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   Old Thread  #23 3 Dec 2020 at 11.50pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I never touch any drugs..

But ,four yrs ago,I decided to build my core strength, so I got into isometric stretching and bodyweight calisthenics...took about a yr before I noticed any difference,I can say,apart from fishing ,Bromptoneering, bushcraft,its the best thing I have ever done for myself..

Literally, my mindset,is everywhere,most things are a gym..gates,chairs,bars,wheels on machinery,no one needs to spend or waste money on a gym...

Gyms cost money,calisthenics is everywhere..its free..
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   Old Thread  #22 3 Dec 2020 at 11.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Me. Personally none lol

Curiosity that's all
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   Old Thread  #21 3 Dec 2020 at 11.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah great song.
If all you've got to do today is find peace of mind
Come round you can take a piece of mine
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   Old Thread  #20 3 Dec 2020 at 10.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Never heard of roid rage,
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   Old Thread  #19 3 Dec 2020 at 10.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The negatives certainly outweigh the positives

Reduced sperm count, infertility, shrunken testicles, erectile dysfunction, baldness, breast development, increased risk of prostate cancer, severe acne, stomach pain
Heart attack or stroke, liver or kidney problems or failure, high blood pressure , blood clots , fluid retention, high cholesterol
Aggressive behaviour, mood swings, paranoia, manic behaviour, hallucinations and delusions
Damage to veins, leading to ulcers or gangrene, Hep B Hep C, HIV all from sharing needles

You wont get all of these but most definitely some of them, what ones would you like.


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   Old Thread  #18 3 Dec 2020 at 9.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Never taken steroids or have any interest. But, if a person wanted to do them as safely as possible, if it's possible to be completely safe introducing something into your body which is naturally produced. Definately a case of too much of a good thing is bad for you. Introduce too much steroids it will " feminise", hence bitch tits. Best advice I could give is to get yourself a full health check before starting a cycle. Then go and get a health check after the cycle. Post cycle very important. Google "IPED" website. Image and performance enhancing drugs. Very informative and factually accurate site. Not looking to sell you any products, just providing good harm reduction advice for those who have taken the decision to go down that route. Sign of the times methinks. The body beautiful. At any cost for some people. Good nutrition, proper rest, generally healthy lifestyle. Saw Pumping Iron in the cinema when it first came out. Think Arnie regrets taking them. Also, if your lucky you'll be buying good fakes. Pharmaceutical grade out of the reach of most users either due to cost or they wouldn't know where to source pharmaceutical grade.
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   Old Thread  #17 3 Dec 2020 at 9.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yes defo an unfair advantage
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   Old Thread  #16 3 Dec 2020 at 8.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Strange how body building and the image of a ďperfectĒ body is predominantly drug induced at the highest levels

Au natural

Thatís why I hate drug cheats in sports, I know how they can enhance peopleís bodys and then they compete against people who have given it their absolute all naturally, think Olympics. Lowest of the low for me

I read something a while ago and it said that a lot of young men that are around now will have serious health issues when they reach their 40s due to steroid abuse!

Itís the longer term damage that is the problem, not the short term ďbuzzĒ

Like most things, some people can manage themselves, some cannot sadly
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   Old Thread  #15 3 Dec 2020 at 8.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No I'm not. Just an eye opener how many people do and seem not to have a care in the world. When all you read online is negative
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   Old Thread  #14 3 Dec 2020 at 8.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If you're even thinking about it then there's something wrong with you and your life, you need to seek help.
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I was once got given a large bag of naposim tablets, couldnít do it, wrong, binned them . Spent a lot of time in the gym over the years and never took any. Itís cheating for me, artificial gains

I know one lad, couldnít get above 15 1/2 stone, managed to get to 18 plus on the gear, had to give up training the blood pressure damaged his eyes

Another 2, both friends, injecting straight into the biceps and overdosing purposely! My mate Andy had a brain haemorrhage, He was in the same hospital as Paul Ingle the boxer at the time. Terrible to see.

The other ended up with Kidney failure and a transplant...

Another mate used to compete, use to take 3 types, a builder, a weight stripper and a blocker so they couldnít see what he was taking in his samples, pissing blood the lot, mental

I also used to work with a lad, a tanned tart, used to cycle on them on and off, spotty poser you could say, was like a yo yo, see him one month, bulked up, see him a couple later like a racing snake with the life sucked out of his arse

As well as the health problems, for me it is muscle that they canít seem to hold onto the same when they stop, ainít natural

My mate used to play professional rugby, Super league, they are on it out of season. If you want the real deal you want the growth hormone. I was in the gym with them one day, took my to their gym, they were pushing 2p coins between their teeth, even made their jaws and bones grow and deform the GH
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   Old Thread  #12 3 Dec 2020 at 5.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Speaking from experience?
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   Old Thread  #11 3 Dec 2020 at 5.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Donít do your todger any favours either
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   Old Thread  #10 3 Dec 2020 at 4.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yer some of there hearts was 4 times bigger than it should of been


Blimey, that must've been expensive come Children In Need.
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   Old Thread  #9 3 Dec 2020 at 4.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Dose seem an easy option but are the results short lived? Do the gains just go?

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Yer some of there hearts was 4 times bigger than it should of been
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   Old Thread  #7 3 Dec 2020 at 4.16pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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well for competition unless it's an all-natural comp then they cant compete without them.

and I guess people look at the big guys and feel weedy in comparison.

in reality. it does help someone not dedicated get results when their diet and lifestyle would have them spinning their wheels and making no progress at all. that's why the TOWIE and CHELSEA guys do it. run a business, party, birding it up etc. 2 nights in the gym, growth hormone and protein, and the occasional steroid. beats dedication.
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   Old Thread  #6 3 Dec 2020 at 4.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Did it for 12 years on and off whilst competing (karate) body building.There is,nt many professional sportsmen that dont throughout their career.I would definately avoid , when you get older you will know why .All sorts of health problems and thats if you are taking what it says on the label, some if the **** that gets passed around in gyms is horiffic.Had 4 mates die 2 def steroid related and countless aquaintences die or really ill , kidney problems ,blood pressure,heart attacks, blood disorders, limbs removed. One mate pumped his leg full of horse growth hormones only to have his leg amputated.
You dont need steroids unless you are going to be a pro sportsmen.
Alot of worlds strongest men die very young alot of it steroid related,blood pressure/heart attacks.
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Yer I have read a bit and it's never good stuff.. Why do so many people do it? Just for pur vanity reasons?
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How??
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If you are lucky it only comes back to haunt you years later. unlucky and you can have
physical and psychological problems early on.

And either way. It's not sustainable.
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Know a bloke who lost both legs through it can't be good for you.
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Who's done it...

Joined a new gym and seems like every 1 is on it.
Had a quick Google and seems like it's all just horror and scare stories on there.
Is it really that bad, if done sensible?

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