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   Old Thread  #112 26 Jan 2021 at 11.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A positive and, what i believe to be, a realistic view of the future
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   Old Thread  #111 26 Jan 2021 at 11.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In fairness Spod I feel you are voicing our fears of the worst scenario and our hopes are that things will change once the vaccination program is in full swing. The world cannot be put on hold for ever and if the bulk of the populations have been vaccinated than although the virus can still be transmitted the consequences will be more like a dose of flu rather than life changing. As a fishery owner we, like all others. are suffering the financial burden of total income loss for much of last year as well as at the very least, half of this year however with anglers holidays being put back at least the loss will not be theirs. I think it is wrong to see the current problems as being the way things will be later in the year when the virus will be somewhat better controlled. One thing is certain and that is that Covid will not go away and, like flu, will be with us for many years to come. The importance of an annual vaccination cannot be over stated and once that is freely available then travel restrictions will be lifted and life will once more get back to some sense of normality....imo
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   Old Thread  #110 26 Jan 2021 at 10.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I don't think the vaccine will make a jot of difference at this stage especially as the "experts" are now saying that the vaccine does not stop you contracting it and passing it on.......(nothing new there, the annual flu jab doesn't stop that either.... )....

As things stand at the moment you have to pay for a PCR test, (£150) and this must be undertaken less than 72hrs before you go out and this must show a negative result.

You are then requested to self-isolate in France for 7 days upon arrival. After the 7 days you must then take another PCR test, (another £150) and if that is negative you are then allowed to travel within France, subject to local restrictions.

Then when returning to the UK you have to have another PCR test before they will let you board a flight or get on the chunnel. When you get back to the UK at the moment you then have to self-isolate at home for anything up to 10 days. However, it looks highly likely that the UK will enforce a 10-day Hotel stay upon re-entry to the UK, (at your own cost) depending where you have been.....

Even if travel restrictions are lifted to allow recreation/leisure the testing and isolation will be with us for some time.

This is where a lot of people will come unstuck, Anglers or general holidaymakers because as soon as the French, (Spanish, Italian etc) lift travel restrictions enough you can go on your holiday......if you don't, because you cannot take 3 or 4 weeks off work to isolate/get the testing done then that will be YOUR CHOICE and the provider does not have to refund you or provide an alternative....neither would your travel insurers pay out.

So any fishery owners in France will know this, (a few have already been called out on Facebook for pretending not to) and will want you to hedge your bets rather than request new dates....

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   Old Thread  #109 26 Jan 2021 at 10.23am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No answer at the moment as far as I can tell? The vaccine doesn´t stop you catching the virus it minimises the risk of severe consequences and the scientists are still not abale to determine whether you can still spread the virus if you have it and after receiving the vaccine. I think travel abroad will be on hold for months until the scientists understand more about the vaccine, virus and new variants, if we thought last year was tough, this one is going to be worse!
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   Old Thread  #108 26 Jan 2021 at 10.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Problem is many people that got vaccinated have positive test results so if test will be the norm (without considering vaccination)than good luck to them...
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   Old Thread  #107 26 Jan 2021 at 9.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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we will no doubt still have significant testing and quarantine rules on both sides of the channel. Not many people will be able to take 3 or possibly 4 weeks off work to self isolate either side of a fishing trip to France.

I was thiking about that the other day, I wonder if people who can prove they have had the vaccine will be allowed to travel freely or whether as more of these ruddy mutant strains become apparent it will mean sweet fa.
There in lies the Q, if it does allow you to travel will you be able to buy the vaccine to allow you to travel, might be well worth it if so.

Was thinking about it as I've had the jab but the Mrs who comes with me hasn't..yet.
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   Old Thread  #106 26 Jan 2021 at 6.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
From various Facebook pages it looks like there are a lot of anglers looking to rearrange trips for the first half of this year....(my party included) and some fishery owners are doing so, others however are telling them to wait and that they, "won't lose their holiday"....

Problem will be however and the reason fishery owners are being asked now to move dates, is that even if the French authorities relax the rules enough to allow trips to recommence in April/May we will no doubt still have significant testing and quarantine rules on both sides of the channel. Not many people will be able to take 3 or possibly 4 weeks off work to self isolate either side of a fishing trip to France.

In those circumstances it will then be the individuals choice whether to travel or not and not many fishery owners, (if any) will then agree to give alternative dates or a refund....so despite what they say, many will end up losing their holiday.

Difficult situation and certainly no winners here for sure...
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   Old Thread  #105 25 Jan 2021 at 5.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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slightly off topic (nowt new there )

I normally go to portimao, estoril etc every winter on track for some racebike practice, last yrs was cancelled, got money back fine, i wont be booking again, as its a £2.5K trip for 4 days, including tyres etc.

too much grief and disappointment to bother in my book (Sadly)
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   Old Thread  #104 25 Jan 2021 at 4.42pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Really helpful post....

Ours was rolled over from 2020 for what it's worth. I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to book expensive holidays for this year without giving it at least a little bit of thought....
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   Old Thread  #103 25 Jan 2021 at 4.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not looking so good, is it!
I already cancelled my End-May week, have fingers and toes crossed for End-Aug...and an starting to worry about that end of year, cold November trip.
Coming via the UK from the US, all the stars need to be aligned at the best of times!😁

Take care,all, we’ll get back eventually.......
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   Old Thread  #102 25 Jan 2021 at 3.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
My June trip was carried over from November last year that was cancelled
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   Old Thread  #101 25 Jan 2021 at 3.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well this wont be popular......anyone who has recently booked a foreign holiday fishing or not for the near future deserves all the stress they get.
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   Old Thread  #100 25 Jan 2021 at 11.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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We are due to go out on 30th April, don't think we have a chance in hell....
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   Old Thread  #99 25 Jan 2021 at 10.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There is going to be an anouncement later this week, it looks like we will be going back into a full lockdown again here in France.
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   Old Thread  #98 25 Jan 2021 at 9.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Booked for the end of June 🤞🤞🤞🤞
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