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Hitman
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   Old Thread  #269 24 Mar 2021 at 10.20am  0  Login    Register
It also isn’t fair on most of the population when people protest without wearing masks so they are not helping the situation either.

blackfield
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   Old Thread  #268 24 Mar 2021 at 10.06am  0  Login    Register
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I don't care!
blackfield
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   Old Thread  #267 24 Mar 2021 at 10.05am  0  Login    Register
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But neither does stopping everyone travelling fly well politically if they are fully vaccinated. Don't forget older voters are more likely to vote ****servative. And tories are quite clued up on demographics...
JT
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   Old Thread  #266 24 Mar 2021 at 9.51am  0  Login    Register
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The road map for European travel will lay out certain infections levels and levels of different mutations as a basis for allowing travel across the borders .

The requirements for travel will be vaccinations or lateral flow tests for the younger age groups.
July is a long way off, the EU ‘should’ be down to much lower levels by then so the biggest risk is possibly levels of infection here as the 3rd wave arrives. (Over 60% of lorry drivers arent tested coming in!) Hopefully out vaccination program will keep it at low levels.

Unfortunately we are in a cycle now where populations are too high for vaccination roll out pace to keep up with virus spread in a free moving society so expect increases as the temperature drops this autumn. The government knows this and they know they can’t support the travel industry forever so I expect they will do everything they can to open up borders in July.
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #265 24 Mar 2021 at 9.37am  0  Login    Register
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but the younger ones have alot more time to play catch up i guess and that was the point i was trying to make.

agree re the rest of it, education, taxes blah blah, but purely on a "time" limit, the older generation have less (in general)

Silverslayer
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   Old Thread  #264 24 Mar 2021 at 9.26am  0  Login    Register
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Not so sure.

The under 30s have lost the most in this pandemic.

If they were at university (like my son) they list the experience but still have to pay full wack.

They have been saddled with massive debt, and their job prospects have been severely damaged.

They face a higher tax muchess affluent future.

All for a virus that to THEM was not particularly harmful.

If you effectively make all under 50s second class citizens for ttavel they will kick off
Silverslayer
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   Old Thread  #263 24 Mar 2021 at 9.07am  0  Login    Register
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Precisely.

It's not about whether it's right wrong or other, it's about overall public opinion.

Letting half the population go abroad while the other half can't does not fly politically.

People don't forget that kind of thing at the ballot box!
djg
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djg
   Old Thread  #262 24 Mar 2021 at 8.56am  0  Login    Register
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New law being debated ( and will be agreed) on Thurs that will ban travelling abroad until at least 30th June. It will also introduce a £5,000 fine if you travel unless for essential reasons. So no foreign fishing trips until at least 1st July.
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #261 24 Mar 2021 at 7.54am  0  Login    Register
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maybe not, but if the younger ones actually sat down and thought about it, then i'd like to think they'd understand a bit better. lets face it, we will get on holiday soon enough.
benyel29
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   Old Thread  #260 24 Mar 2021 at 7.52am  0  Login    Register
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I dont disagree with you, but i dont think it would go down well with the younger generation
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #259 24 Mar 2021 at 7.47am  0  Login    Register
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think the pensioners deserve it, they have less time than the younger generation
benyel29
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benyel29
   Old Thread  #258 24 Mar 2021 at 7.35am  0  Login    Register
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Im not having a pop at you because i don't know your age, but we have just shut down the country for the best part of a year to protect the elderly. How do you think the under 30s would feel to see a load on pensioners swanning off to spain whilst they are still stuck here?
Frenzy
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   Old Thread  #257 24 Mar 2021 at 7.15am  0  Login    Register
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aside whether we are able to actually go to France this summer, who will actually be willing to do the 124 day isolation in a hotel at your own cost on return?

I believe, but not sure thats the rule in place?
Silverslayer
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   Old Thread  #256 23 Mar 2021 at 11.20pm  0  Login    Register
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You think that because you are in the cohort that could travel.

If you were in the other half your view would be different.
Silverslayer
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   Old Thread  #255 23 Mar 2021 at 11.18pm  0  Login    Register
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NHS records.

Don't you remember giving your NHS number?
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