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Having just finished it I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it, especially the earlier chapters on the Big S. Only thing I would say is if you have seen the YouTube clips then the last two chapters are an anticlimax. Only thing that spoilt it really.
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#504 8 Jan 2021 at 9.06pm | | |
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In reply to Post #500
Whoops 🤣
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#503 8 Jan 2021 at 4.36pm | | |
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In reply to Post #499
Mine too tim...really good chapter.
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#502 8 Jan 2021 at 1.02pm | | |
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In reply to Post #501
Terry penning
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#501 8 Jan 2021 at 1.00pm | | |
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Adam Hearn wasnt it?
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#500 8 Jan 2021 at 12.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #497
Who wrote rolling in the mist?
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#499 8 Jan 2021 at 12.48pm | | |
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Haven’t read Pennings book yet, but just finished Terry’s latest. I decided to read it a chapter at a time, to allow each water to seep in, as it were.
I really liked it, particularly the way he described his approach to each challenge. Always a sucker for a good story on waters that have not been done to death in other writings, and found the chapters that he had already done for ESP gave something extra.
Slippery Seal was my personal favorite, lovely cunning old fish!
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#498 8 Jan 2021 at 11.46am | | |
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Have to say , glad I got it , reading it in stages not in order . The esp videos have eaten into the desire to read some chapters , not because I know the story rather that Tel telling it makes it better .
I skipped strait to big S , somewhere I should have fished , but smoking mirrors about who was a bailiff etc see me chucked off . The main reason I was looking at it was that I stocked a few really nice looking fish into it many years before Tel fished it .
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#497 8 Jan 2021 at 11.12am | | |
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I finished 'through the mist' last night,
my wife who stayed up until 03.30 on the launch night to get it for me asked "well was it worth all the hype and effort ?"
I of course replied " yeh great" ,
not really though, found it fairly hard going, and unlike his first two easy to put down. As others have said, his videos which I love, meant I knew most of the stories already.
However just started Adam Pennings book and that seems very good so far 👌
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#496 7 Jan 2021 at 10.05am | | |
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Fair point, I’ve avoided them ever since they sacked Eamonn Holmes.
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#495 7 Jan 2021 at 7.25am | | |
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I've heard good things about Oz's book, from experience if he writes a second dont bother buying itv😂😂
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#494 6 Jan 2021 at 6.51pm | | |
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I'd suggest Oz Holness book then.
It's definitely the most inspiring carp fishing books I have ever read - the way he describes his mindset, approach and determination to his fishing lead to me making a few changes and having one of my best years angling ever.
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#493 6 Jan 2021 at 6.32pm | | |
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I finally got around to reading a copy, thanks to a mate 
My thoughts are that if I had not seen the videos and read the articles then this would be up there with his other two. Unfortunately I already knew the stories, or at least most of them.
Good point earlier about this and Dave Lane’s last book. I never even finished Dave’s last book, found it incredibly dull. I think the grit and subsidence of their earlier books and lifestyles made for more interesting reading.
Maybe it’s me but I haven’t really enjoyed a carp book for ten years or so.
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#492 6 Jan 2021 at 3.47pm | | |
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Got to agree with you on the pictures being dark but my copy hasnt got the print problems , it has got smudges of blue ink on some of the pages though. Its well written ( unlike my posts 😂😂  but i think the markets been flooded with these type of books now and they're all pretty much the same. Getting a bit boring, i got to the burghfield chapter and couldnt be bothered to read it so stuck it back on the book shelf with the other 40 or so books...
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#491 6 Jan 2021 at 2.49pm | | |
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I must be lucky. My copy only has very very minor print issues. A bit of faded text twice in the whole book.
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#490 6 Jan 2021 at 1.39pm | | |
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made my eyes bleed trying to read it, not sure if anyone else has the same, wording on all left hand pages to far over towards the spine meaning I virtually have to snap the book in half to read it. gave up looking at the photos aswell,all to dark.
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#489 6 Jan 2021 at 1.04pm | | |
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They also both fish for a living now, whereas the early books were about the pleasure and scraping by in the process. It’s bound to have an effect on the stories.
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#488 6 Jan 2021 at 12.17pm | | |
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Daves last book is quite abit off his last two aswell, not just Terry's,
I think they probaly forgotten what they went on in the captures because so many yrs has past since their last book.
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#487 5 Jan 2021 at 12.32pm | | |
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Great book shame no mention of pingewood, didn't manage to see the angling times when he was writing in there about his time on pingewood.
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#486 5 Jan 2021 at 7.54am | | |
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I messaged them through email and all I got was you have been sent a full refund, no explanation nothing
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#485 5 Jan 2021 at 5.14am | | |
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It is warm/cold for me as well but as others said knowing about captures before hand seeing them on web, his Christmas videos etc does spoil a lot but I guess that is the nature of the beast now days. It has been to long since his last book and it seams everything was crammed in to much... It looks like he is rushing and jumping to much here and there...
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#484 5 Jan 2021 at 0.33am | | |
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Finally got mine on New Years Eve, but then I do live a bit further away than most.
I ordered 3 books - 2 from Calm Productions; Through the Mist & Rolling in the Deep - and also Subsurface IV
The postage to Australia for the 2 from Calm doubled the cost of each book (36 quid each!!!), whereas the Subsurface postage was slightly cheaper at 20 quid.
As has been mentioned many times already, the 2 books from Calm each came in a jiffy bag and arrived damaged, whereas the Subsurface book was well packed in cardboard and arrived completely in tact.
Content-wise, I'm more impressed with Adam Penning's book than Terry's. I think its because the videos have already spoilt a number of the stories so there is no mystery in them. although there are a few interesting bits. Adams is much more of a life story and that appeals more.
Subsurface IV is a different beast altogether, and I'm well impressed, despite what others have said about the lack of words. A quick flick through the pages makes me want to get back out on the bank of my syndicate, but I fear that is more than a year off now. Think I'll be getting a few more books before wetting a line ...
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#483 4 Jan 2021 at 11.28pm | | |
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Are people still waiting for copies?
Got a fiver in my Xmas Lucky Dip, so wouldn´t mind a copy
 
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#482 4 Jan 2021 at 11.09pm | | |
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I waited until Xmas Eve and them got my money back, sent them six or seven emails/messages and not one response.
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#481 4 Jan 2021 at 10.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #480
Are people still waiting for copies?
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#480 4 Jan 2021 at 9.18pm | | |
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It felt rushed, that’s my only comment. Loved the book
But chapters felt condensed and rushed and didn’t explore the full depth of his time spent in the bank.
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#479 4 Jan 2021 at 9.06pm | | |
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Ditto. A few chapters in and thought I would find putting it down at night hard based on some comments but so far not found anything overly inspiring. Not bad, but equally nothing special, so far. Kind of looking forward to finishing this and starting Oz's book which I got for Xmas. Also really want to get Micky Grays books as they sound great, with Micky being named dropped quite a lot by Tel in this book
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#478 4 Jan 2021 at 7.58pm | | |
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Agree, not a patch on his first or second, for me though both his and micky's first are two of the best I've read.
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#477 4 Jan 2021 at 7.13pm | | |
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I must admit, I'm a couple of chapters in and so far it's all very samey. I'm not feeling it yet however I'm sure I will soon, might give it another whirl after a break..... or we get locked down properly again and books become my only escape!
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#476 4 Jan 2021 at 5.17pm | | |
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What are peoples thoughts on this book?
For me I can't even finish it and I am a huge fan of his writing. I'm at the Burghfield chapter and I feel I can't go on.
It seems that Peter Pan has grown up - his previous books were about the sense of adventure, on from one challenge to the next - the stories of how things fitted into each other - the mystery and the unexpected (usually a quick capture).
with this book being based on the lakes he fished, it's more about bounty hunting and missions for each fish - he comes across as cold and dull imo - it's what he did for work to complete projects and not about the escapism - similar to Nigel Sharp's book.
Maybe we have had a few books since his last one which have upped the game a little when it comes to mindsets and enjoyment (Micky Gray, Carp Life 2 and Oz Holness etc) - After putting the book down last night I went to catch up on Dave Lanes Patreon stuff where he covers his journey and the laughs along the way and I feel they are worlds apart.
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#475 29 Dec 2020 at 2.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #474
Thats what they reckon which is why they wont restock
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#474 29 Dec 2020 at 12.52pm | | |
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What was the cause of the deaths, heard it may have been down to the refuse tip near bye ?
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#473 29 Dec 2020 at 12.19pm | | |
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They all died, 16 or so big carp a few smaller ones, big perch like 5lb plus, big pike and lots of jacks. The suprising thing were the amount of big eels in there but we think a lot of these survived. Dont think they are going to restock.
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#472 29 Dec 2020 at 10.24am | | |
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Did they all die, or are they restocking ?
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#471 28 Dec 2020 at 1.59pm | | |
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In reply to Post #470
Linear, got offered a ticket this year
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#470 28 Dec 2020 at 12.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #457
Who was running big S before the fish died ?
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#469 28 Dec 2020 at 6.09am | | |
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I read it chapter a day to make it last a little longer (pathetic as hell I know) but one thing is clear boy do you guys have some nice waters or is terry just a master of finding them (quiet, not a lot of anglers around etc)...
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#468 27 Dec 2020 at 9.29pm | | |
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Mine arrived today, North Carolina. No damage, signed, ordered on 2 Dec. Thought it had got lost, but now. Looking forward to reading it in our cold spell here
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#467 27 Dec 2020 at 10.53am | | |
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Yes Ivy (L) and Ellis I found the best bits, though I'd have much rather preferred Pinge than the Northwyke chapter which was a bit pointless. Excellent book though.
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#466 27 Dec 2020 at 9.30am | | |
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Agree, defo my fave chapter 👍
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#465 27 Dec 2020 at 7.44am | | |
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Pingewood was covered quite comprehensively in his diary piece in angling times at the time tbf, still would of been nice to read it again though.....i forgive him the ivy pool chapter makes up for it 
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#464 26 Dec 2020 at 11.03pm | | |
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He has missed quite a chunk of his angling I've seen from the book.
Pingewood where the brute and Jockey lived and dintons where swan.
Thought they would of been in there tbh
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#463 26 Dec 2020 at 11.37am | | |
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Maybe something to do with half the country being in lock down lol
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#462 26 Dec 2020 at 11.21am | | |
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"No Christmas eve vid this year from Tell ?" - perhaps Calm Productions were in charge of its release as well !
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#461 26 Dec 2020 at 10.54am | | |
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No Christmas eve vid this year from Tell ?
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#460 26 Dec 2020 at 10.44am | | |
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Mine arrived via my secret santa who blew the budget to get it for me... no doubt a favour will be asked for in return!
I think it's brilliant - so well written. Some of the stories are familiar from his ESP videos and other things but am thoroughly enjoying it.
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#459 25 Dec 2020 at 9.49pm | | |
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In reply to Post #458
Make the lost of them while they are there.
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#458 25 Dec 2020 at 8.03pm | | |
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Wow.
Another strange twist of fate, and nature, big volume of water. More special carp gone. 
Big S now assigned to the written archives of history.
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#457 25 Dec 2020 at 6.48pm | | |
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In reply to Post #456
Oxygen crash in the summer, total wipeout unfortunately.
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#456 25 Dec 2020 at 5.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #454
Let me guess, ottered ?
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#455 25 Dec 2020 at 5.04pm | | |
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Figure this out mine stil hasn’t arrived but luckily my mrs who didn’t no I ordered one, ordered one for me for Xmas so I’ve got one now just not the one I ordered lol
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#454 25 Dec 2020 at 4.03pm | | |
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All gone now unfortunately 😕
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#453 25 Dec 2020 at 3.42pm | | |
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I did find it highly unusual that every fish I’ve ever seen out of the big S was a stunner, almost hand selected.
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#452 24 Dec 2020 at 11.05pm | | |
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Went strait to the bid S chapter , somewhere I got chucked off once , but had I known the score would have chanced my arm again . The reason ? , because I put some fish in there , scaley lovely young fish from the lake at the back. It was due to be filled in , and I had permission to fish it , I caught half a dozen fish and it seemed silly to put them back , so in the big S they went . A non starter these days , but over 30 years ago things were slightly different
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#451 24 Dec 2020 at 10.43pm | | |
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I’m now 150 pages in, it’s up there with his other two IMO.
Well worth the wait
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#450 24 Dec 2020 at 1.41pm | | |
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Publishers are a law unto themselves.
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#449 24 Dec 2020 at 2.15am | | |
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Yes. Read first chapter last night. Usual high quality. Enjoyed his first two and enjoying this so far. Had a flick through rest of book and will be reading over next few days. Shame release and sales of book had negative experiences for some people. Know a couple of lads who tried to order when website crashed then missed out because Calm Productions had re-opened website without announcing it like they said they would. Hopefully they will get one in the re-print in January.
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#448 23 Dec 2020 at 9.50pm | | |
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Well? Is it any good?
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#447 23 Dec 2020 at 8.30pm | | |
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Ordered 8th December (when website was meant to be down- just happened to check). Shipped on 12th. Just arrived today. Thankfully in perfect condition as have seen a few on Facebook damaged. Not surprising given it was just packed in a bit of bubble wrap and a jiffy bag.
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#446 23 Dec 2020 at 3.25pm | | |
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Ordered on the 2nd dec, but still not received mine yet. I'm overseas though, so might be held up in transit or whatever somewhere.
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#445 23 Dec 2020 at 12.45pm | | |
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I believe a second print is planned for January 2021 but with covid who knows if this will be possible.
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#444 23 Dec 2020 at 12.30pm | | |
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Does anyone know if there is a second print run planned?
I kept checking the website but missed out
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#443 22 Dec 2020 at 9.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #442
Good for you 🙄
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#442 22 Dec 2020 at 8.55pm | | |
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Got mine on the 17th. Signed
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#441 22 Dec 2020 at 8.22pm | | |
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I never got mine I emailed calm last week and without a reply I got a full refund this morning for it without a answer, complete joke this is. At least I got my money back but ridiculous that you don’t even get W answer or explanation
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#440 22 Dec 2020 at 7.53pm | | |
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In reply to Post #439
I've still not got mine
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#439 22 Dec 2020 at 7.44pm | | |
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Anybody else still not got theirs? I've cancelled it with the bank now an absolute joke
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#438 20 Dec 2020 at 5.42am | | |
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It seems I’ve been lucky, ordered on the 7th and came Friday. Mint. Haven’t noticed poor print quality on a quick flick through either.
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#437 18 Dec 2020 at 7.31pm | | |
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Mine arrived today . Having read all the horror stories about damage I set up a ‘soft landing’ for it 🤣 don’t know whether it worked or I was just lucky as only had one minor knock on the spine . Roll on Christmas Day 👍
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#436 18 Dec 2020 at 2.15pm | | |
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My copy arrived today, ordered on 2nd December. No damage so that’s another bonus. I actually emailed them yesterday to say that it hadn’t arrived & they replied within the hour. They must have held copies back as they told me that if it hadn’t arrived by the weekend to let them know & they would drop a copy off to me as they lived in the same area.
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#435 18 Dec 2020 at 9.16am | | |
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A Fool and His Eel is another work of art mate.
You'll love Oz's book. One of those that makes you want to drop everything and go fishing.
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#434 18 Dec 2020 at 9.04am | | |
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Flick of the Tale is great. Got Ozs book for Christmas so looking forward to reading that. I really enjoyed a Fool and His Eel as was about more than just carp fishing
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#433 18 Dec 2020 at 7.33am | | |
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Disappointed to receive my book damaged with the hardcase outer corner bent over. Sadly it seems I’m not the only one.
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#432 18 Dec 2020 at 5.23am | | |
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#431 17 Dec 2020 at 7.33pm | | |
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Got to agree with laneys 2nd 👍superb read, id have to have casting at the sun up there as well.
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#430 17 Dec 2020 at 7.29pm | | |
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In reply to Post #429
Oz Holness and probably Laneys 2nd 
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#429 17 Dec 2020 at 7.19pm | | |
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Which other 2 books would make your top 5 yonny?
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#428 17 Dec 2020 at 7.17pm | | |
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14 years have passed but they’ve kept the same style for this book. At least that’s consistent. Hence why it seems outdated, it’s because it is I guess.
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#427 17 Dec 2020 at 7.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #418
Theres one on coch-Y-bonddu books for £100👍 put angle books in google search and it will take you to the fishing section. Its a good site to value of your books.
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#426 17 Dec 2020 at 6.55pm | | |
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My subsurface 4 showed up same day too. Work of art. But Terry's books have never been about that (for me anyway). The printing in his first book was shocking and some of the photo reproductions in the second leave a lot to be desired. In fact I chuckled at the print in this new one as it took me back to the first. It doesnt matter. It's all about the read, and all three of Terry's are in my top 5 I reckon.
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#425 17 Dec 2020 at 6.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #424
Received two one signed and one not (not to resell btw). The signed one came a few days late by Royal Mail and the non-signed one came via APC. Both of them where put through the letterbox which is not ideal as its a large drop, but luckily the both books are still mint.
The whole experience was shocking. I know people who have received two signed books when ordered them together, people who ordered them before people who received signed copies yet there's weren't. Deffo a company to avoid
Also forgot to the mention the none signed ones also have a lot of faded words on the ink. Seems their quality control is bad
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#424 17 Dec 2020 at 6.16pm | | |
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I have a friend who is a carp book collector. I was working in his house this weekend when he happened to have just received Terry’s book and Subsurface 4. I have to say from a purely design and feel point of view, Terry’s was very underwhelming. I don’t think Calm Productions have really done him justice at all. It’s got a cramped feel to it, the whole thing looks shoe horned in. The layout is far too boxy. Simple half page photo, top or bottom of the page with text crammed in above/ underneath. Very disappointing. Doesn’t have a feel of a designed book, more an exercise of just fitting it all in. If it had the layout and feel of the latest subsurface or the bcsg books it would be amazing. As it is, although I’m sure it’s a brilliant read, it looks and feels like just another carp book. Shame as it could have been spectacular. A missed opportunity to do something very special.
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#423 17 Dec 2020 at 5.54pm | | |
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In reply to Post #410
mine has some damage to the spine on the top
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#422 17 Dec 2020 at 4.42pm | | |
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Thanks Yonny. I can tell that you know your stuff so your recommendation is of value
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#421 17 Dec 2020 at 4.37pm | | |
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Mine turned up after only a week or so and in mint condition which seems like a rarity having flicked through here. Have also noticed the dodgy print on the left hand page. Nothing that I’m worried about, but I’d be a bit pissed if I was Terry.
Content so far has been great, strong first chapters. Got to agree with what someone else said that I’m not overly excited to read a lot of the chapters as they’ve been largely covered on some form of media before. Wasing, Burghfield, Tunnels & Little Grey for example.
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#420 17 Dec 2020 at 4.15pm | | |
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Missed out on a first edition due to moving house & no reliable internet connection, but looks like I didn't miss out on the "good experience" from the Calm website! Will have to hope I can get one of the second edition prints in the New Year as not going to be paying inflated prices.
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#419 17 Dec 2020 at 2.37pm | | |
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@midlandman. You'll love it mate. I'm a bit of a collector of carp books, I have a bookcase full, but there are only a small handful I go back to read again. This is one of them, 100%.
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#418 17 Dec 2020 at 1.50pm | | |
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Received Terrys book today in Belgium, damaged as well, not to bad but enough to make my angry a little bit. Ordered some kids book few days a go and it came properly packed and corners protected. p.s Did anyone maybe see Mike Willmotts Carp life (first one) for sale somewhere? how much do they go for if anyone knows?
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#417 17 Dec 2020 at 12.57pm | | |
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That’s great to hear.
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#416 17 Dec 2020 at 12.49pm | | |
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Weird isn't it - the pics are fine, it's only the words that are odd.
The content though is up there (if not better) than his first two
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#415 17 Dec 2020 at 11.53am | | |
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It's brilliant mate. I'm only half way through and it's right up there with his first 2 imo.
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#414 17 Dec 2020 at 11.26am | | |
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Anyone have any more reviews on the content? I know it’s not long been out, just considering whether it’s worth the hassle of trying to order one.
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#413 17 Dec 2020 at 8.49am | | |
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I would send the book back if damaged in any way , and ask for a refund.
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#412 17 Dec 2020 at 8.31am | | |
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Yes mine has that
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#411 17 Dec 2020 at 8.14am | | |
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Anyone else noticed the same character/word 3/4 down on the left hand page is poorly printed throughout?
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#410 16 Dec 2020 at 10.01pm | | |
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Postie gave mine to the neighbours as it wouldn’t go through our letterbox
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#409 16 Dec 2020 at 9.37pm | | |
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If you just want to read it its on kindle 👍(Dave lanes book not Terry Hearns)
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#408 16 Dec 2020 at 5.50pm | | |
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Mine arrived today
Perfect condition
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#407 16 Dec 2020 at 4.16pm | | |
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I must have been lucky mine turned up mint, all these damaged ones aint good though. 👎
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#406 16 Dec 2020 at 12.56pm | | |
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Mine has been delivered today ,corners and spine damaged . I buy books to read and collect , I knew this would not be a collectors item because it would have a large print , but even so it should arrive in undamaged condition .
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#405 16 Dec 2020 at 10.09am | | |
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mine turned up yesterday..... took a week and a day.... I can live with that.
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#404 16 Dec 2020 at 10.07am | | |
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ta - think id rather have a copy of that than tel's new book to be honest - prefer the older ones, just a bit more interesting
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#403 15 Dec 2020 at 8.02pm | | |
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They probably are, just the wrong or insufficient materials lol.
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#402 15 Dec 2020 at 7.44pm | | |
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The website also says books will be carefully packaged 😂😂🤷🏻♂️
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#401 15 Dec 2020 at 7.32pm | | |
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The irony that all you had to do is read
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#400 15 Dec 2020 at 7.24pm | | |
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I appreciate there is a bit of anger here but I think I'm right in saying they posted the books early last week and the website states 14 day delivery so , to date nobody is outside that commitment.
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#399 15 Dec 2020 at 7.12pm | | |
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I got my other copy yesterday. Basically a week after I ordered the other copy but this copy was ordered first?
The way this whole thing has been handled from the start I honestly believe Calm Productions are just winging it and sending orders out in no particular order
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#398 15 Dec 2020 at 7.01pm | | |
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I feel like the ones that haven't got the book by now aren't getting it surely
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#397 15 Dec 2020 at 6.59pm | | |
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Ordered on the 2nd still nothing for me either it’s ridiculous now, I’m like the rest if it’s not here by Friday I’m calling the bank
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#396 15 Dec 2020 at 5.44pm | | |
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I ordered a book from calm a few years ago in nov it arrived in jan . It was supposed to arrived in early December as it was a xmass present. They where poor ( undersatetment ) to deal with then and sounds like they still are.
I never ordered from them again or ever will.
Total disregard for their customers.
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#395 15 Dec 2020 at 5.11pm | | |
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Same, I am giving it until Friday then calling the bank
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#394 15 Dec 2020 at 5.07pm | | |
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“The book will cost £30 plus £5 P&P (Royal mail are due to increase their fees once again in January and the price of the boxes has gone through the roof, apparently there is now a carboard shortage as well)
All copies will be signed but I cannot personalize them I'm afraid...”
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#393 15 Dec 2020 at 5.07pm | | |
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No, the words in Dave's book are the same, but the pictures and format are different. Can't see the point of buying it if you have the original.
£30 plus postage I recall.
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#392 15 Dec 2020 at 5.01pm | | |
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any idea how much he's knocking them out for? always fancied reading that one but not for stupid money
cheers, merv
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#391 15 Dec 2020 at 4.34pm | | |
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In reply to Post #390
Your get nicked for harassment
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#390 15 Dec 2020 at 3.44pm | | |
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I ordered mine on 2-12-20 as well .Money taken loads of conformation e-mails . I msg or e-mail them at least twice a day .
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#389 15 Dec 2020 at 3.03pm | | |
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I’ve just emailed them. Still no sign of my copy, ordered on the 2nd & order confirmation received but no sign of the book. I’m not expecting a response from them
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#388 15 Dec 2020 at 1.31pm | | |
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Obsession with Carp remastered is his "new" one. His Patreon subscribers can pre order now, then it goes on general presale from 28th December as I understand it.
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#387 15 Dec 2020 at 1.14pm | | |
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Nope,.... Nada.
Print 50k books and avoid this circus.
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#386 15 Dec 2020 at 1.09pm | | |
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Has anyone had a reply to e-mails ,phone calls or messenger from Calm ,because they are not replying too me .
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#385 15 Dec 2020 at 12.43pm | | |
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Is the Dave Lane book really new? I can only find a "Remastered" version of "Obsession With Carp" with a pre order from Dec 28th.
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#384 14 Dec 2020 at 9.09pm | | |
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and will pay OTT for the privilege
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#383 14 Dec 2020 at 8.57pm | | |
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It was £410 but now it's back down to £82. There is one on for £360. Mental!
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#382 14 Dec 2020 at 8.05pm | | |
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Jeez that looks battered! I’ve got 30 yr old books in better Nick than that.
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#381 14 Dec 2020 at 7.56pm | | |
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Looks a few years old with the battered corners 😳
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#380 14 Dec 2020 at 7.31pm | | |
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If you buy directly from Dave it will probably be signed and posted in a box.
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#379 14 Dec 2020 at 7.29pm | | |
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Actually I have already answered my question...it appears that a LOT of people want to read about those lakes!
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#378 14 Dec 2020 at 7.28pm | | |
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I get that, and assumed the same. I even agree entirely with that principle, but I am disappointed nonetheless.....who really wants to read any more about Wasing, Spitfire or that James’ fish.
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#377 14 Dec 2020 at 7.18pm | | |
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264972017118
WTF?
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#376 14 Dec 2020 at 6.52pm | | |
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He definitely signed his copies of Fine Lines if you got them from him direct
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#375 14 Dec 2020 at 5.48pm | | |
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I think he is
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#374 14 Dec 2020 at 5.41pm | | |
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If he's posting them himself he might as well sign them at the same time.
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#373 14 Dec 2020 at 5.36pm | | |
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Dave probably saw the release & postage disaster from Calm and thought, I'll do it myself
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#372 14 Dec 2020 at 4.36pm | | |
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Dave lanes taking orders for his book as from today, doing all the packaging and posting himself. 👍
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#371 14 Dec 2020 at 3.56pm | | |
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Unsigned copy went for £254 if the buyer pays.
7 times over RRP  WOW
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#370 14 Dec 2020 at 1.57pm | | |
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Unsigned copy went for £254 if the buyer pays.
Over 30 books sold so far most unsigned for around the 100 mark
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#369 14 Dec 2020 at 1.27pm | | |
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I’m hoping mine will turn up soon then, I ordered on the 2nd mine still isn’t here. I’ve tried calling calm productions but not answer all the time
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#368 14 Dec 2020 at 12.57pm | | |
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Ordered mine on the 1st, not signed even though some who ordered on the 2nd have got signed copies. Corners damaged but I want it to read otherwise I would have been extremely disappointed with how it’s turned up.
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#367 14 Dec 2020 at 12.35pm | | |
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My book arrived thos morning, slightly bashed corners, but bought as a reading book, not to sell, so not particularly fussed, but poor all the same.
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#366 14 Dec 2020 at 11.05am | | |
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signed copy just gone for 215 on ebay
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#365 14 Dec 2020 at 1.11am | | |
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I know there’s a few Tel enthusiasts that like to try and follow the same path of lakes and fish - they might struggle emulating the majority of these now
From a writers perspective, waiting a decade or more, before you publish your long awaited book, would stop the sheep following in his footsteps as all those known big target fish are dead, so no point clogging up those potential waters, club tickets.
Keeping sponsors happy and previous water members as well.
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#364 13 Dec 2020 at 10.06pm | | |
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In reply to Post #362
Thanks mate.
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#363 13 Dec 2020 at 8.50pm | | |
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In reply to Post #362
£144 for a signed copy now  on Ebay with 37bids
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#362 13 Dec 2020 at 8.14pm | | |
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Received mine a few days ago and I went straight to the ‘Tunnels’ chapter as it’s a lake I fished and loved. I wondered if there would be anything we didn’t see in the film, but aside from the odd tale regarding the horses (which I experienced myself so it wasn’t totally out the blue!) it was basically the film in text. Literally word for word in some of it.
Typical Tel tale but it did feel a bit rushed, but maybe that’s because he was writing about something people had already watched.
Other than that all I’ve read is the intro, which was nicely written.
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#361 13 Dec 2020 at 7.22pm | | |
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Ordered on the 2nd, it turned up yesterday... usual story no tracking info, a dozen confirmation emails, no reply to messages or emails, no answering the phone but it did at least arrive. Very very minor damage to one corner but at least I can read it.
Mr Lane has gone quiet about the release of his book over the last couple of weeks, I hope we don't have a repeat performance!
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#360 13 Dec 2020 at 7.09pm | | |
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I still haven’t heard if the book is any good or not
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#359 13 Dec 2020 at 6.02pm | | |
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there are loads on ebay, even an un-signed one with a starting bid of 230quid  shocking
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#358 13 Dec 2020 at 4.31pm | | |
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Will people go to the time, trouble, and cost to return a minor damaged 1st edition for a second print edition. The latter may also turn up with similar issues.
Distance selling regulations exist but I bet millions of items at comparatively small cost are simply kept by unsatisfied customers. Sad but true, and I bet most of us have been guilty of it.
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#357 13 Dec 2020 at 4.12pm | | |
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They have said a re print will be done at the end of Jan. loads of people moaning about books arriving damaged. When they finally get their heads out of the sand and start answering people’s calls, emails, messages and posts I can see them having to refund a lot of people for missing books and damaged books that can’t be replaced as there are no more books left
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#356 13 Dec 2020 at 4.00pm | | |
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Don't know the time scale for reprinting, the Web site has said sold out for a couple of days.
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#355 13 Dec 2020 at 3.29pm | | |
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My conspiracy theory is the books were never tracked so many of the signed one could go missing.
If you've not received your book it's because it was a signed one. In a couple of weeks time you'll get an apology an unsigned one will be delivered promptly.
Only kidding I hope you all get them soon
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#354 13 Dec 2020 at 3.14pm | | |
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This hasn’t got anything to do with Royal Mail delays. I’m 99% sure it’s down to Calm messing it all up which they have done from the very beginning
The 2 copies I ordered went to 2 different addresses with near identical post codes one ending DQ the other UQ and the houses are not that far apart. The book I ordered first I’m still waiting for and the book I ordered second was delivered on Wednesday morning after being posted on the Monday
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#353 13 Dec 2020 at 2.50pm | | |
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Fair enough mate just wondered why everyone else is getting them but a few others haven’t had there’s, I’ll wait a bit longer then thank you bud
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#352 13 Dec 2020 at 12.59pm | | |
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These are 2nd class, potentially a whole different ball game.
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#351 13 Dec 2020 at 12.28pm | | |
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I agree I’ve ordered a lot of parcels since this and they have been delivered by Royal Mail since, in fact I ordered 3 parcels last Monday was delivered 1st class Royal Mail on Wednesday
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#350 13 Dec 2020 at 11.13am | | |
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I’ve ordered things after the 2nd that have been delivered by Royal Mail. I’ve no idea if it’s even been dispatched
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#349 13 Dec 2020 at 11.06am | | |
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It comes by Royal mail and they have a back log
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#348 13 Dec 2020 at 9.56am | | |
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Snap, no email saying dispatched or anything.
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#347 13 Dec 2020 at 9.38am | | |
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Ordered mine on the 2nd, confirmation email received but no sign of the book
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#346 13 Dec 2020 at 9.17am | | |
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Mine too, very well packaged. No issues.
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#345 13 Dec 2020 at 8.31am | | |
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Mine arrived yesterday so hang on everyone!!
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#344 12 Dec 2020 at 11.05pm | | |
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I left the UK in1996, when there was still a level of mystery. Having moved here (North Carolina), I remain almost overwhelmed about the level of unknown potential, mystery, in the (big) waters I have shortlisted for serious attention here. Realistic targets in this state are Mid Thirties, the holy grail is a 40.
I will love reading what Terry has been up to when the book arrives.......
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#343 12 Dec 2020 at 9.44pm | | |
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Exactly the same mate no tracking number no nothing, I had a email on the 3rd saying it was shipped but no information other than that
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#342 12 Dec 2020 at 9.42pm | | |
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Yeah will probably do the same. Could of got lost in lost, no way of knowing without any feckin tracking is there.
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#341 12 Dec 2020 at 9.40pm | | |
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Exactly the same as me even the same day bud, I’ve tried to contact calm productions but no answer so I’ll give it to Monday/ Tuesday and I’ll get hold of the bank for the money back
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#340 12 Dec 2020 at 9.33pm | | |
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Ordered mine on 1st and still nothing 
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#339 12 Dec 2020 at 9.24pm | | |
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ones sold for 254 one ebay tonight...not sure if that's a genuine price or all the haters have inflated it lol
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#338 12 Dec 2020 at 9.16pm | | |
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Anyone still not got theirs? Ordered on 2nd and money taken but still not here?
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#337 12 Dec 2020 at 7.47pm | | |
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**** me this is difficult, that's exactly what I'm saying  
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#336 12 Dec 2020 at 7.41pm | | |
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I think the fact you think that all of that is true proves my point. There is a whole world of angling outside the internet, social media and print.
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#335 12 Dec 2020 at 7.39pm | | |
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I'd say the reverse and you're out of touch or missing the point.
The new fish? Yep there are plenty around and doing big weights they come with all their stocking details and the pictures of both sides with dates, no mystery, nothing unknown. Totally manufactured and very plastic in my view compared to the past.
There aren't even any unknown waters anymore with the advent of Google Earth etc. I'm sure there are a few whoppers out there in some of the big reservoirs and I bet there are a few trying for them, that's exciting.
Stuff like the Burghfield Common is boring, in some respects the stuff that Lane and Hearn write about is boring, known waters and known fish, the thing that would really spike peoples interest is that unknown uncaught whopper from some windswept inland sea, the type of catch that's lost on todays pop up angler because if it aint on Faceache it doesn't exist.
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#334 12 Dec 2020 at 7.34pm | | |
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Nope even came with a little Insert page
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#333 12 Dec 2020 at 7.10pm | | |
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Read it when your sober, it may not be the pages that were messed u.
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#332 12 Dec 2020 at 5.53pm | | |
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I have Nashy book the demon eye that I think had all the page numbers all messed up.
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#331 12 Dec 2020 at 5.46pm | | |
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Also bear in mind that Terry tends to target known fish. He's not really one to go chasing myths, ghosts or fish that don't get caught (Mere excepted to an extent).
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#330 12 Dec 2020 at 4.42pm | | |
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What interesting stuff has he left out then?
There won't be stacks of unknown fish / venues because 1. They don't really exist anymore or not to the extent of filling a book about them and 2. he has sponsers to keep happy so most of his captures are published by ESP one way or another
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#329 12 Dec 2020 at 12.53pm | | |
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All the fish in Kent and Essex are wronguns 😂
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#328 12 Dec 2020 at 12.33pm | | |
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New is a relative point with age. The fish that were ‘new’ when Bazil was ‘old’ twenty years ago are the same age now. Many are just off the circuit of YouTube and book whoring.
And Two Tone was a wrongun
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#327 12 Dec 2020 at 12.19pm | | |
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That’s the point - it used to be about the “mystery” of either relatively unknown “history” fish and/or hard venues, whereas now most of the fish are younger known fish, albeit from a decent looking fast growing strain.
Just think how old Bazil, Mary, Heather, the Park Lake fish, two tone, etc were compared to some of the newer fish
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#326 12 Dec 2020 at 12.13pm | | |
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If you think it’s still the same big fish in the same ponds you’re out of touch. Most of said bigguns are goners now but there are plenty of new good strain fish out there.
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#325 11 Dec 2020 at 9.46pm | | |
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That's because the whole game is stale, nothing ground breaking for a while now, not even sure if there's anything left to break new ground, just the same fish but bigger in the same old ponds.
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#324 11 Dec 2020 at 9.01pm | | |
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I’m disappointed with what I have gathered so far as Terry seems to have played it very safe with the waters covered, indeed he has already covered most of these captures in some form elsewhere. From what I gather he has left the interesting stuff out.
Yes, I will buy it though, cos it’s Terry.
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#323 11 Dec 2020 at 7.43pm | | |
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Mine only arrived yesterday
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#322 11 Dec 2020 at 7.40pm | | |
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Im not from the area and never going to fish there as struggle to find the time to fish just down the road from me with family and work commitments, i just like to know where rather than them be unnamed
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#321 11 Dec 2020 at 7.20pm | | |
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A 1st edition with a unique flaw that would make it worth even more 
Next time you touch it better use gloves 
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#320 11 Dec 2020 at 6.00pm | | |
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I must have thumbed past it twice then!!
Either that or they forgot to put one in my copy, which lets be honest doesn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility
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#319 11 Dec 2020 at 5.58pm | | |
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There is a chapter list
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#318 11 Dec 2020 at 4.51pm | | |
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Not that I saw. My copy arrived earlier and I had a quick thumb through.
No contents page which is a bit weird
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#317 11 Dec 2020 at 4.44pm | | |
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Is pingewood in there??
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#316 11 Dec 2020 at 4.40pm | | |
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Didn’t think it was a secret that it was the Ellis. Tels referred to it by name in videos before and I thought it was fairly common knowledge if you’re from vaguely round the area.
Both the big mirrors gone now, as is the ‘Ivy Pool’ mirror, lost that in the summer. And the Tunnels fish all died as well.
I know there’s a few Tel enthusiasts that like to try and follow the same path of lakes and fish - they might struggle emulating the majority of these now 😂
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#315 11 Dec 2020 at 3.53pm | | |
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Ellis
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#314 11 Dec 2020 at 3.09pm | | |
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is anyone allowed to know which water is next to sheepcoat? This big pit as it was refered to in mickey greys book
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#313 11 Dec 2020 at 2.47pm | | |
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Ordered mine on 2nd. Confirmation email received, money taken but still no book
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#312 11 Dec 2020 at 2.27pm | | |
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I agree that print quality is not the best, which is a bit of a surprise given that hey knew how popular it would be.
In terms of content not read it yet, but covers Burghfield, Northwycke, Spitfire Pool, Ashmead, Wasing, the Thames plus a few others so a good variety of venues. I don't doubt for a second that it will be a good read
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#311 11 Dec 2020 at 2.19pm | | |
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I thought the reproduction quality of the new book was pretty poor in places, some of the pictures are printed so dark and text is blurred on a few pages.
Having only read the Ivy pool chapter thus far, which was a good tale to be fair. Although, much of the book has been spoken about to a lesser extent in the past, more or less.
I'm putting mine on ebay tonight he he.
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#310 11 Dec 2020 at 1.49pm | | |
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Is the book any good? What waters are covered?
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#309 11 Dec 2020 at 11.59am | | |
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Not important to me but fair enough
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#308 11 Dec 2020 at 10.47am | | |
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Because I am a fan of print and i like to keep the books i read..
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#307 11 Dec 2020 at 10.43am | | |
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Yes does sound like it was Royal Mail that caused the delay
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#306 11 Dec 2020 at 10.39am | | |
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It was the round inked one over the top of the postage label, always assumed that this was when it went through the sorting office
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#305 11 Dec 2020 at 10.37am | | |
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What's wrong with a photocopy can't you get someone to do that for you?
I used to get books from the library and take them into work to photocopy.
Not been to a library for a while do they no longer keep fishing books?, they used to be able to transfer them from branch to branch.
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#304 11 Dec 2020 at 10.28am | | |
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Last few copies of Darrell's book to sell on ebay went for;
£169.99 (or best offer)
£128.00
£125.00
£44.00
£50.00
£86.00
£97.00
£102.00
Subsurface 1 recently sold for £88.00 & £56.00
Darrell's is one I really want to read but I can't bring myself to pay stupid money for it.... ....hopefully there will be another re-print at some point
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#303 11 Dec 2020 at 10.21am | | |
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Be quick, it's in reprint I believe.
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#302 11 Dec 2020 at 9.52am | | |
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Bloody hell. I’ve got the first Subsurface somewhere. I think it’s stored under my ottoman bed 😂 I’m never going to read it so if anyone’s reading this and wants it, I’ll take £60 before it goes on e bay 😂
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#301 11 Dec 2020 at 9.43am | | |
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Phoned calm at 9.30am today and answer phone still says the site is down.
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#300 11 Dec 2020 at 9.43am | | |
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Was that an inked postmark that Royal Mail do when they receive the item or a Business postmark that the company prints from their own machine? Maybe Calm prepared the item ready for postage on the 7th but did not hand it to Royal Mail for a day or two?
Glad I can't be bothered to read fishing books anymore seems such a kerfuffle.
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#299 11 Dec 2020 at 9.32am | | |
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I'd pay triple that and have in the past for a leather bound copy but not heard of leather copies of these being available.
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#298 11 Dec 2020 at 9.24am | | |
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Mine arrived yesterday, without any damage thankfully. The postage mark on it was from the 7th but didnt arrive till the 10th so its not all Calms fault as it was royal mail 1st class so guess its also the postal delays
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#297 11 Dec 2020 at 9.23am | | |
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Anyone who willing to pay that price for a fishing book wants there head examined.
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#296 11 Dec 2020 at 9.15am | | |
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Ordered mine Monday when the site re-opened. Had a confirmation email but no shipping email and no book as yet. Fingers crossed.
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#295 11 Dec 2020 at 9.08am | | |
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It is very much believable... The first Sub-Surface book and Darrel Pecks one regularly go for £75 plus...
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#294 11 Dec 2020 at 8.26am | | |
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Do you guys genuinely know anyone that would be willing to pay over £100 for the book on eBay? Seems crazy to me and I do wonder whether a lot of the bidding is fake on there which then encourages people to pay over the odds.
I haven’t used eBay for ages but seem to remember you can cancel the sale completely after the auction ends and just give an excuse of ‘item being damaged’ - I’m thinking if they get a mate to bid initially and they don’t get get any genuine bids after that point.
It just seems unbelievable to me...
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#293 11 Dec 2020 at 8.20am | | |
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Misses got nothing when she ordered mine at 5.30am on the 2nd of December she tried the first night but it crashed on her, when she did manage to place the order online she had no confirmation email no shipping message nothing, it turned up yesterday.
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#292 11 Dec 2020 at 7.49am | | |
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There is no tracking on the book. It’s just chucked in a Jiffy bag and sent in the post with Royal Mail. Seen loads of people complaining about bashed up books. I’m waiting for another copy to be delivered that was ordered before the one I received 🤷🏻♂️. Ordered one for me first and one for someone else (delivered to their address) they got their copy but I’ve not got mine yet, but they were nice enough to let me have their copy just incase the other one doesn’t make an appearance
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#291 10 Dec 2020 at 10.53pm | | |
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Same as me mate mine was paid for and taken out the account, got a confirmation email and even a shipped email but still haven’t received anything I’m starting to doubt it but if that’s the case I want my money back
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#290 10 Dec 2020 at 10.40pm | | |
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I got a shipping confirmation and order completed e mail 5 days before they even shipped, I’ve got no tracking information and would have thought I’d have seen my copy by now considering they started shipping at the start of the week.
Completely in the dark. I don’t crave signed books or collectors items, I just want the thing I’ve paid for 😂
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#289 10 Dec 2020 at 9.33pm | | |
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I haven’t got a clue if I am actually getting a copy or not
Looks like my order is still processing since the 7th
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#288 10 Dec 2020 at 9.30pm | | |
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Nah, I was joking mate, hence the wink! I have got 2 copies but neither are signed.
And to other comments the second copy is for my mate who doesn't do 'tinternet.
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#287 10 Dec 2020 at 9.14pm | | |
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Way of the world these days I’m afraid. You snooze you lose and people will always be there to make money.
Look at most things new out like kids toys (LOL Dolls etc) new games consoles, books etc there is never enough to cover demand and companies probably manufacture on the cautious side so not to be left with stock which in turn cause a bit of a frenzy and people see an opportunity to grab as much as they can knowing they can make a few quid. Then once the initial frenzy dies down and stocks are replenished everyone can get what they want (unless it’s a limited edition obviously)
Mental that people are happy to pay 2-3+ times the price for this book when there is going to be more available in a few weeks or so 🤷🏻♂️
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#286 10 Dec 2020 at 9.03pm | | |
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The scalping on eBay I don’t agree on at all, more fool the idiots that buy them at over inflated prices creating a market for it.
Can’t personally see point in keeping one unread when there are people that wanted one that didn’t manage to get one.
Just my personal opinion though
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#285 10 Dec 2020 at 8.53pm | | |
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Could be any reason why people buy 2 copies
A gift for someone
Sell on eBay
Keep a pristine copy for the collection. Know a couple of people that buy 2 copies of a book, one to read and one to go into the collection and I don’t think this is to uncommon either 😂
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#284 10 Dec 2020 at 8.27pm | | |
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Why’s everyone needing two books? Bit greedy IMO hardly like you need both is it
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#283 10 Dec 2020 at 7.14pm | | |
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you have received 2 signed copies? So much for their "even if you buy multiple copies you will only receive one signed copy" policy. Just received 8 emails ( for 1 order ) that my 2 books have been shipped, no tracking information whatsoever and they have to make it to the Netherlands, hope they invested in some cardboard packaging for the international orders. Never had issues with them in the past, but this release has been handled very poorly.
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#282 10 Dec 2020 at 6.03pm | | |
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I did say not too unhappy as book will read the same. That said if I pay for any goods that arrive in poor condition I will be unhappy. The author in this case is completely irrelevant as I buy books to read, not for resale value but getting a brand new book in slightly damaged condition is a bit frustrating
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#281 10 Dec 2020 at 5.47pm | | |
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I’ve had books from them in the past with the corners bashed in. They’ll pack it and send it to you in the cheapest way possible.
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#280 10 Dec 2020 at 5.42pm | | |
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My 2 copies arrived today....both signed....one is going straight on E-Bay....
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#279 10 Dec 2020 at 5.41pm | | |
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In a hundred years time the fact that the corners are bent over will probably make them priceless.
For God's sake it's bloody fishing.
Let's get some perspective. Terry Hearn is a Damn good fisherman.
He's not Saint Paul on the road to Damascus. Or is he?
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#278 10 Dec 2020 at 5.33pm | | |
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Same with mine. Clearly been dropped on it's edge with the corners having been crushed. Almost certainly down to the poor packaging. That said, got the book and it does not change how it reads, so not too unhappy
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#277 10 Dec 2020 at 5.15pm | | |
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Still not got mine. Had a note to say a parcel was in the red bin and got excited. Turned out to be the missus boots order 
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#276 10 Dec 2020 at 4.25pm | | |
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mines turned up today,not signed but in perfect condition.
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#275 10 Dec 2020 at 3.18pm | | |
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Just gets better and better this, glad I couldn't order, they didn't reply to my e-mail so I thought stuff them 
Feel sorry for those of you getting damaged books 
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#274 10 Dec 2020 at 3.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #273
yes mines damaged, looks like it has been dropped on its side and dented the hard cover front and back.was wrapped in bubble wrap then put inside a plastic bag. looked like it had been wrapped by a 3 year old..
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#273 10 Dec 2020 at 2.32pm | | |
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Seen a few have turned up battered. Looks like Calm Productions sent the books out in jiffy bags, which therefore no protection on the edges or corners. Just more evidence that the company are total rubbish.
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#272 10 Dec 2020 at 2.27pm | | |
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Guess it just comes when it comes then!
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#271 10 Dec 2020 at 1.42pm | | |
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In reply to Post #270
Nothing mowgli just turned up not signed for
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#270 10 Dec 2020 at 1.30pm | | |
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Question to those that have received theirs - did you get tracking information?
I got an e mail on the to say it’s shipped and another to say it’s completed, but nothing has been delivered and there’s no tracking info, just a line that says ‘not delivered yet’
Just wondered what confirmations you’ve had!?
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#269 10 Dec 2020 at 12.24pm | | |
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Ah, my confirmation was at 11.31pm on1 Dec,, order # 9662. There is hope then ( though I really don’t care about the signature, and my US born wife says if I die first my carp library just goes in the tip.🤔🤔🤔 ).
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#268 10 Dec 2020 at 12.04pm | | |
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Mine arrived. Dont think its signed. Guessing those that are its on the inside front cover?.
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#267 10 Dec 2020 at 11.06am | | |
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Mine's not turned up yet, hopefully soon
Still can't believe the madness, wonder how the traffic compared to normal numbers
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#266 10 Dec 2020 at 8.35am | | |
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In reply to Post #262
5,000 is the correct number
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#265 10 Dec 2020 at 4.32am | | |
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In reply to Post #264
shhhhhh, put in safe place, that thing is worth bloody millions!! Ask Del&Rodney if you dont believe me!
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#264 9 Dec 2020 at 10.38pm | | |
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In reply to Post #259
Got mine today signed, it says " all the best uncle Jim" ???????????
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#263 9 Dec 2020 at 10.18pm | | |
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so those who have got their book, whats it like? is it a good read.from what little you may have read so far..
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#262 9 Dec 2020 at 9.28pm | | |
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In reply to Post #261
5,000 I gather is correct for the first run.
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#261 9 Dec 2020 at 9.23pm | | |
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In reply to Post #258
Saw a few people say there was 5000 printed in the first run but that could just be pure speculation
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#260 9 Dec 2020 at 9.18pm | | |
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In reply to Post #255
Mine was 9552 recieved today signed 👍
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#259 9 Dec 2020 at 9.18pm | | |
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I ordered mine around that sort of time as well but my book wasn’t signed unfortunately. Reckon I must of just missed out
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#258 9 Dec 2020 at 8.46pm | | |
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Wow... Calm seriously underestimated the demand didn't they. 28k plus hits on there site when it went live. Be interesting to find out how many they printed.. And there was me thinking the book market was dead.
Let's hope me mrs got her arse in gear on the link I sent her and got me a copy for me birthday or for Christmas. 
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#257 9 Dec 2020 at 7.16pm | | |
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Hopefully you be one of those who got the book signed
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#256 9 Dec 2020 at 7.12pm | | |
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Thanks mate. I have got 9210, but my order was a couple of hours later so perhaps the number doesn't tell much about the book being signed.
Edit: Mine was ordered just before 3pm so earlier.
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#255 9 Dec 2020 at 7.06pm | | |
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In reply to Post #254
I managed to order the book around 11.30pm on the 1st December, the order id is coming up as 9595
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#254 9 Dec 2020 at 6.54pm | | |
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In reply to Post #253
What was your order number?
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#253 9 Dec 2020 at 6.42pm | | |
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In reply to Post #252
Got my book today, and it is signed
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#252 9 Dec 2020 at 6.28pm | | |
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Same, calm are posting stuff with people getting their books like they've done a good job and handled it well 😂🙄
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#251 9 Dec 2020 at 6.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #250
Still waiting for mine
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#250 9 Dec 2020 at 4.14pm | | |
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In reply to Post #249
Got mine today - Royal Mail delivered.
Pretty sure the Jan reprint would be second edition.
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#249 9 Dec 2020 at 4.00pm | | |
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That's my thinking too mate.
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#248 9 Dec 2020 at 3.52pm | | |
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In reply to Post #239
not sure, but I would guess it's a 2nd edition then. But I could also be wrong
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#247 9 Dec 2020 at 3.11pm | | |
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They said the signed copies went within minutes of them going live even though they wasn’t intending to let them go live at the time so I highly doubt anyone I no will have a signed one
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#246 9 Dec 2020 at 3.07pm | | |
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#245 9 Dec 2020 at 3.06pm | | |
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who delivered it please , royal mail dpd etc??
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#244 9 Dec 2020 at 2.39pm | | |
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In reply to Post #241
Got mine also today
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#243 9 Dec 2020 at 10.38am | | |
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In reply to Post #242
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#242 9 Dec 2020 at 10.30am | | |
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In reply to Post #241
Send it back, go on be the first. If its signed complain someone been scribbling in it.
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#241 9 Dec 2020 at 10.22am | | |
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#240 9 Dec 2020 at 10.14am | | |
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Now sold out as per Calm productions latest fb Post.
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#239 9 Dec 2020 at 10.09am | | |
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Saw on FB that a re-print is due end of Jan.
Does anyone know if that would go down as a re-print of the 1st edition or would it be a 2nd edition?
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#238 9 Dec 2020 at 10.05am | | |
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I’ve seen a few people on Facebook apparently got there copy now
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#237 9 Dec 2020 at 9.57am | | |
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In reply to Post #236
Ho Ho Ho
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#236 9 Dec 2020 at 9.40am | | |
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All being delivered by Terry himself on Christmas day.
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#235 9 Dec 2020 at 1.27am | | |
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I Couldn’t agree more,..... Sent an inquiry about my order. Still awaiting response.
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#234 9 Dec 2020 at 1.12am | | |
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Just seen someones Instagram has a physical copy?
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#233 8 Dec 2020 at 11.01pm | | |
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Now it’s listed as sold out!
Who knows whether this is true or whether they are trying to hold back orders to catch up with postage.
What a shambles Calm have made of this launch.
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#232 8 Dec 2020 at 10.11pm | | |
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Ordered it last night. Fingers crossed it arrives at some point in the next week or so.
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#231 8 Dec 2020 at 8.47pm | | |
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I've not had a dispatch email yet
Just confirmation and money has been taken
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#230 8 Dec 2020 at 7.15pm | | |
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I might be a load of ol shyte read yet ....if it turns up...
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#229 8 Dec 2020 at 6.13pm | | |
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Anyone know if calm use a courier or they come via Royal Mail?
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#228 8 Dec 2020 at 3.25pm | | |
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Ive had 3 emails saying shipped but they said to ignore them
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#227 8 Dec 2020 at 2.53pm | | |
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I've just logged onto my email,ive had no other emails other than the 3 I got last week,
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#226 8 Dec 2020 at 2.47pm | | |
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Aren't these meant to be getting posted out this week or has that been c0cked up too?
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#225 7 Dec 2020 at 5.43pm | | |
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Yes I thought that but they are not advertised as signed
There are 3 on eBay now
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#224 7 Dec 2020 at 4.58pm | | |
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In reply to Post #223
God knows maybe they think they might get a signed one?
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#223 7 Dec 2020 at 4.31pm | | |
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so you can go onto the Calm Prod site and create an account or just buy one and check out as a guest.
either way you pay £39.95
So why are idiots bidding over £75 on ebay for them ?
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#222 7 Dec 2020 at 3.43pm | | |
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I did that the week before I ordered my book anyway, I assumed you had to have a account to order the book but seems not lol
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#221 7 Dec 2020 at 3.37pm | | |
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I checked out as guest and got confirmation email
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#220 7 Dec 2020 at 2.59pm | | |
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Let me check out as a quest, taken money from card but no confirmation of order email, let’s hope it goes smoothly 🙈🙈🙈
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#219 7 Dec 2020 at 12.47pm | | |
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The website is back up and working now but you have to create and verify an account before you can check out
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#218 4 Dec 2020 at 10.08am | | |
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A lot of fishing books have an initial run of 250-450 copies, very few have a print of 1000 +. Carp fishing demands a bigger print but writing books is no way to earn a living unless you are titivating bored housewives.
Amazon will publish your books and each copy sold is printed to order at big printer outfits. That way you get next to nothing for your work but your book is available and, should it become very desirable, a hard copy launch option can be taken up and you may claw back a few bob.
Let's face it, books are often just an ego trip and the money is a bonus.
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#217 4 Dec 2020 at 0.12am | | |
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There are a number of ways that books can be published:
You can fund the production yourself, doing everything yourself - you then get to keep the full sale price, less tax. Very few take this option.
You can enter into the sorts of deals described, where a publisher fronts the cost of production, and the author gets a share of the purchase price, usually small ( 5% - 10% ? ).
There is also the method used by Chris Yates a few years ago to fund his book The Lost Diary. Chris advertised what the book was going to include, and people paid upfront the cost of a copy of the book. Once a certain number were pledged (which were enough to cover the cost of production) the book was printed and copies distributed.
Popular authors can also command an advance to cover the cost of any research required in the production of the book, which again gets recovered by the publisher from the purchase price. This tends to only occur with top selling authors who will be selling shed loads of books. Despite the popularity of angling, its still a niche market with generally small readership.
Thousands of Terrys' books will be sold, possibly tens of thousands, and i'm guessing that might earn him tens of thousands of pounds ?
Who knows ...
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#216 3 Dec 2020 at 10.20pm | | |
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I don’t remember all the details but Darrell Peck said that his deal was no money from the first x copies sold, then got paid an amount for the next quota, then a higher amount for the next quota..
It sounded like a smart way for the publisher to ensure that they cover costs for a poor seller and then splitting the profits of it is successful.
No idea if this is how most deals are done though. I assume that once someone has a couple of successful books they can drive a better deal.
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#215 3 Dec 2020 at 10.14pm | | |
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I think it was Micky gray who said he had to front a huge amount of money to get the books done. I wonder how it works too.
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#214 3 Dec 2020 at 9.10pm | | |
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I do wonder how many copies that will be sold ? And how much he makes out of it?
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#213 3 Dec 2020 at 8.16pm | | |
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Agreed
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#212 3 Dec 2020 at 8.13pm | | |
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Calm have always been *****.
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#211 3 Dec 2020 at 7.57pm | | |
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I am sure he is referring to Calm Production Angling books, not the general book industry
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#210 3 Dec 2020 at 7.00pm | | |
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Biggest book launch in years? Your deluded if you believe that, even last years best seller sold over a million copies but I'm sure Tel would be delighted with 10% of that.
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#209 3 Dec 2020 at 6.47pm | | |
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Did you struggle like this to get your copy of Fifty Shades of Grey
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#208 3 Dec 2020 at 6.36pm | | |
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on the biggest book launch in years not even close.
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#207 3 Dec 2020 at 5.00pm | | |
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Gotta laugh at it, just about everything that could go wrong has..... on the biggest book launch in years.
How ironic to be the IT technicians at Calm Productions over the last week
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#206 3 Dec 2020 at 4.47pm | | |
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Your basket doesn’t mean anything until you place the order.
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#205 3 Dec 2020 at 2.13pm | | |
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Not received my shipped email yet  got confirmation email though
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#204 3 Dec 2020 at 1.20pm | | |
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they posted on FB about it. something to do with phantom baskets and orders. Sounds more like people that have timed out the failing website and orders getting "stuck" at various points. They've closed the webshop so they can delete them all and opening again soon for orders.
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#203 3 Dec 2020 at 12.57pm | | |
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Website message is that the store is currently closed.
Haven’t read the entire thread but are they limiting the numbers of books available?
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#202 3 Dec 2020 at 12.27pm | | |
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Received 4 emails this morning at 02.18 two of which state that my order is now complete and two stating that it has been shipped! Curiouser and curiouser.
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#201 3 Dec 2020 at 11.59am | | |
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In reply to Post #200
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#200 3 Dec 2020 at 11.05am | | |
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That'll teach Calm Productions to sell a book by some bloke about catching things that eat their own **** while using a bait boat
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#199 3 Dec 2020 at 10.49am | | |
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I managed to get to the checkout on Wednesday morning but could not pay before the whole thing went t1ts up.
If i go to the Calm website it still sits in my basket but the webshop is closed - any idea if this will remain there when it re-opens or if i'll be back in the "bun fight" with everyone else?
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#198 3 Dec 2020 at 9.29am | | |
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I got a confirmation email yesterday, now got another and also an email stating books been shipped..calm have already stated today they aren't shipping until Monday. bloody strange..
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#197 3 Dec 2020 at 9.01am | | |
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In reply to Post #193
They put a picture of him signing it inside the front cover 
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#196 3 Dec 2020 at 8.09am | | |
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Funny ain't it, I enjoyed the first one so much so that I read it in one sitting but the second took me a few weeks of picking it up and putting it down, the misses managed to order a copy for me of the latest one for a Christmas pressie, if it's not signed I'm not bothered so long as it turns up as she hasn't had a confirmation email at all but paypal has confirmed the payment for the order.
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#195 3 Dec 2020 at 7.42am | | |
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In reply to Post #190
I disagree. I found his second book a much more enjoyable read. Maybe that both Terry and his angling had matured somewhat but I related much more to him and his fishing at that point than in his 1st book
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#194 2 Dec 2020 at 11.19pm | | |
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In reply to Post #184
bit more to it than that writing and earning out of a book..
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#193 2 Dec 2020 at 10.59pm | | |
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In reply to Post #192
So there is
So my last question is how will anyone know if the signed copy they have bought is genuine?
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#192 2 Dec 2020 at 10.08pm | | |
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In reply to Post #187
There is two on the Bay now. One clearly stating that he "bought it around midnight and not sure whether it will be signed or not". £80.
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#191 2 Dec 2020 at 10.01pm | | |
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In reply to Post #184
Calm Productions sell other books too, so the difference in order numbers doesn't relate directly to the number of TH books sold
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#190 2 Dec 2020 at 9.28pm | | |
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In reply to Post #189
His first is a classic. Makes you want to go fishing for impossible fish straight away. Inspirational.
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#189 2 Dec 2020 at 9.20pm | | |
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In reply to Post #187
£35 plus £4.95 postage I think
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