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   Old Thread  #78 16 Oct 2020 at 11.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
As has also been pointed out there is a sustainability issue. All the great record fish of this country were older fish that have lived long lives. Slowly putting the weight on naturally. Big rig, jack and now this one Marshall is it?? They donít live long because they are bred to pack weight on fast and subsequently their body canít cope and they die itís not sustainable or tbh ethical, we as anglers already get c**p from non anglers that we are cruel despite the care we take of the fish when we catch one, donít think we need to add force fed pellet pigs to the list
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   Old Thread  #77 16 Oct 2020 at 9.55am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Sounds like a great plan!
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   Old Thread  #76 16 Oct 2020 at 9.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The spawnbound Wingham fish should have taken the record, much like the spawnbound mid-northants fish did back in the 90's when Roddy Porter and then Alex White held the record. No different IMO. That would have given us a few more years for any fish to catch it up.
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   Old Thread  #75 16 Oct 2020 at 8.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Save our beautiful game!

I see there is a group calling for an independant body to save football. Think I might start one, save out beautiful pastime

No imported fish, ever

All fish to be from British farmers, support or growers

All future claims to have stocking picture and records from British farmers

Max stock size for record claim 20lb, I. Been generous here....

Ban all Chinese tackle imports, manufacturing in the UK only

Ban idiots, all blogs to be approved, nice on the eye!



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   Old Thread  #74 16 Oct 2020 at 7.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thought that myself

Tbats what they do with trout, wild ones and farmed.

One word for me, merit

Something that has been force feed and dropped in a pond at say 40lb has zero credability to one that's been swimming around for years before it came on the radar

As for the British record I will never fish for it, not unless it was in reasonable distance from where I live, if I liked the venue and the fish so let's say, no chance. Now if the British record is the pinnacle of carpfishing in the UK, the thing that we all aspire to, think the Burghfield common, not some stupid stock fish, conveyor belt carping, her today, gone tomorrow, where's Jack the joke now

Its all about fame and fortune and what type of fish people are catching that decides what is right and wrong

Myself, I am in carpfishing for myself and take absolutely nothing from it other than pleasure so all those greedy and desperate people can knock themselves out for me

Said it before, when it's all ****ed up, told you so
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   Old Thread  #73 15 Oct 2020 at 9.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Have two records. One for naturally grown carp and one for the biggest carp caught in the UK. So both could be the same fish (not likely). Think the trout record is similar to this. This keeps the keep it real people happy and also the people fishing for these monster fish. There shouldnít need to a be a claim for the record if itís the biggest fish caught then itís the record
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   Old Thread  #72 15 Oct 2020 at 8.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I actually agree with you.

I would prefer that the Parrot still held the record, for it is a credible fish. The Hoome Fen fish has no credibility, zilch, but it is bigger and should hold the record, though the Wingham fish could have silenced the imports/Israelis for years!
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   Old Thread  #71 15 Oct 2020 at 8.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hi All

My personal opinion on carp records:

The UK record is open to so much abuse how much value does it actually hold anymore? Most fisheries stock and feed in winter, should stocking weights and feeding levels really count? And as for death threats?
France? Don't make me laugh. They invented excessive feeding on small venues to create sexy monsters.
Germany: Ticket holders only, you can only catch records if you have enough cash to get on the best fed lakes
Eastern Europe, big split, most nglers won't claim unless they are connected to a bait company, but euro aqua dominates
Australia, well no one claims because you have to kill the fish to claim the record.
So what are records really worth? In my opinion nothing. It's all personal.The sunrise, the first run, the bump off the fin and the lift of the landing net when you get the first peek,
Records for me mean nothing, the little memories though are priceless

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   Old Thread  #70 15 Oct 2020 at 7.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's the thing. In most sports records do relate to credibility. In fact, I think that link still applies to other species, that aren't stocked at crazy weights. Personally, I think they should ditch the carp record. Still valid for many other species imo.
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   Old Thread  #69 15 Oct 2020 at 2.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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There's a massive difference between the survivours than all these hand reared stock fish and it's not just lbs and oz for the masses. If you appreciate big old carp that is of course unless your just interesred in lbs and oz. Then that's all that matters
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   Old Thread  #68 15 Oct 2020 at 2.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #67 15 Oct 2020 at 1.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Gravel pits arenít natural either, so maybe carp caught from them shouldnít count
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   Old Thread  #66 15 Oct 2020 at 12.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I don't get why people get all in knots over the record. All it is, is a recording of history. In this case its the largest recorded fish of a certain species to be caught up until that point... It isn't a recording of its credibility or how hard it is to catch. Or how "cool" it is. Or what its history is.

I think it should stand as a record should the captor wish to claim it. Same as the big spawn bound one should have stood, if the captor had decided to claim it.

There are probably 1000's of "cooler" or more "credible" fish out there but they aren't that big and that is the bottom line.
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   Old Thread  #65 15 Oct 2020 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Different strokes for different folks .

Itís only fishing FFS , and as for the record books it went pear shaped years ago and most donít really care just have a quiet chuckle to themselves 😂
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   Old Thread  #64 15 Oct 2020 at 8.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
You pay your money and take your choice, if size is all that matters they probably don't care if its a wrong un.
Myself i would rather fish for my own pleasure and be happy with a good thirty on a quiet lake.
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