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Double over hand loop for me then loop to loop the leaders on, simple and extremely strong.
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#19 16 Oct 2020 at 9.24pm | | |
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In reply to Post #18
Me too. Deadly simple too..
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#18 16 Oct 2020 at 10.50am | | |
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In reply to Post #2
That's the one mate....spent years doing the needle knot until I started using this style.
Knot strength is exceptional.
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#17 16 Oct 2020 at 9.20am | | |
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In reply to Post #16
that is all good but normally the knot that makes the loop is the weakest point... but still more than strong enough if you ask me...
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#16 16 Oct 2020 at 9.10am | | |
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In reply to Post #11
With a loop to loop, the more times you go through the loop, the stronger it becomes. If your concerned, a single loop to loop isn't strong enough, loop through several times and test it, yourll be very surprised at how stong and neat it becomes.
Big game anglers do it this way for huge bill fish.
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#15 14 Oct 2020 at 8.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #13
Double post
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#14 14 Oct 2020 at 8.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #13
I don’t use lead core but a Willis knot seems a good knot
works on the esp stuff definitely , as I was thinking about using it at a
Local ressie
Thread the mono through the lead core after removing the lead and tie a single granny that’s it
Didn’t seem to work on other materials I tested
Whatever you use , really abuse it before fishing
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#13 13 Oct 2020 at 1.56pm | | |
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In reply to Post #9
I also do another loop knot about 1cm away from the end of the loop on the braid which leaves a little tag end that enables you to pull and change between lead and spod or what ever you need to attach really easily....
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#12 13 Oct 2020 at 1.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #10
Loop system is quicker to change, but other than that, not a lot.
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#11 13 Oct 2020 at 11.41am | | |
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In reply to Post #10
Is the loop to loop as strong as a normal knot (Palomar, Grinner, Bloodknot) for the connection with the leader?
For solid bag fishing on some of my waters I'm not so worried because carp's average size will be mid 20's.
But for fishing on weedy lake with hard fighting big carp I am always a bit scared of loop knots.
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#10 13 Oct 2020 at 11.28am | | |
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In reply to Post #9
Can i ask the actual benefits of grinner/needle/loop system over polamar which i am using presently or is it just a preference thing?
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#9 13 Oct 2020 at 11.07am | | |
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In reply to Post #8
spot on.
i use this method for all leaders.
same for my spod/marker rod, tie a large loop in the braid and loop to loop the spod or marker.
fast and easy.
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#8 13 Oct 2020 at 10.44am | | |
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In reply to Post #7
Yeah see what you mean. Mainline through tiny loop then heliflsafe through mainline loop 
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#7 13 Oct 2020 at 10.02am | | |
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In reply to Post #6
Not sure what you mean - helisafe makes no difference
tie a figure 8 loop in mainline - Pass loop through small loop on end of leader - pass rest of leader (including helisafe) through the loop in mainline - pull tight. Simple as that.
for the record I use a 5 turn grinner 
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In reply to Post #5
Unless i feel like redoing all my pre made leaders fitted with heli safe systems i can't use loop to loop system as you loop through mainline then leader for the knot. Heli safe system gets in the way no?
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