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   Old Thread  #20 17 Oct 2020 at 8.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Double over hand loop for me then loop to loop the leaders on, simple and extremely strong.
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   Old Thread  #19 16 Oct 2020 at 9.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Me too. Deadly simple too..
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   Old Thread  #18 16 Oct 2020 at 10.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's the one mate....spent years doing the needle knot until I started using this style.

Knot strength is exceptional.

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   Old Thread  #17 16 Oct 2020 at 9.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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that is all good but normally the knot that makes the loop is the weakest point... but still more than strong enough if you ask me...
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   Old Thread  #16 16 Oct 2020 at 9.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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With a loop to loop, the more times you go through the loop, the stronger it becomes. If your concerned, a single loop to loop isn't strong enough, loop through several times and test it, yourll be very surprised at how stong and neat it becomes.

Big game anglers do it this way for huge bill fish.
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   Old Thread  #15 14 Oct 2020 at 8.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Double post
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   Old Thread  #14 14 Oct 2020 at 8.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I donít use lead core but a Willis knot seems a good knot
works on the esp stuff definitely , as I was thinking about using it at a
Local ressie
Thread the mono through the lead core after removing the lead and tie a single granny thatís it
Didnít seem to work on other materials I tested
Whatever you use , really abuse it before fishing
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   Old Thread  #13 13 Oct 2020 at 1.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I also do another loop knot about 1cm away from the end of the loop on the braid which leaves a little tag end that enables you to pull and change between lead and spod or what ever you need to attach really easily....
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   Old Thread  #12 13 Oct 2020 at 1.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Loop system is quicker to change, but other than that, not a lot.
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   Old Thread  #11 13 Oct 2020 at 11.41am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Is the loop to loop as strong as a normal knot (Palomar, Grinner, Bloodknot) for the connection with the leader?

For solid bag fishing on some of my waters I'm not so worried because carp's average size will be mid 20's.

But for fishing on weedy lake with hard fighting big carp I am always a bit scared of loop knots.
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   Old Thread  #10 13 Oct 2020 at 11.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Can i ask the actual benefits of grinner/needle/loop system over polamar which i am using presently or is it just a preference thing?
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   Old Thread  #9 13 Oct 2020 at 11.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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spot on.

i use this method for all leaders.

same for my spod/marker rod, tie a large loop in the braid and loop to loop the spod or marker.
fast and easy.
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   Old Thread  #8 13 Oct 2020 at 10.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yeah see what you mean. Mainline through tiny loop then heliflsafe through mainline loop
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   Old Thread  #7 13 Oct 2020 at 10.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Not sure what you mean - helisafe makes no difference


tie a figure 8 loop in mainline - Pass loop through small loop on end of leader - pass rest of leader (including helisafe) through the loop in mainline - pull tight. Simple as that.

for the record I use a 5 turn grinner
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   Old Thread  #6 13 Oct 2020 at 9.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Unless i feel like redoing all my pre made leaders fitted with heli safe systems i can't use loop to loop system as you loop through mainline then leader for the knot. Heli safe system gets in the way no?
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