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 #81 15 May 2021 at 3.22pm | |  |   |
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In reply to Post #80
flippin' buses - you wait for ages for one and then.... three get stuck in traffic half a mile away
'where does the number 267 bus head to?
'you know Fulwell'
Tinhead - i think you've stumbled onto the answer. more sarf londoners on bikes. that would leave the road clear for buses and emergency vehicles. and noj too for his trips to Greenwich.
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#80 15 May 2021 at 10.47am | | | |
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Busses used to have their own bus lane. Not anymore they are held up so that an underused cycle lane can exist, emergency services can't get through.
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In reply to Post #78
I was born and live 5 minutes from lewisham, so feel qualified to say maybe a few dead bus passengers wouldn’t be the end of the world  But I detest the bloody traffic! Drove to Greenwich the other day and it took about an hour and a half for a 15 minute journey  Spent most of the time looking at 20mph signs and thinking “if only”
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No I won't shut up
Don’t matter where you live this could happen to you if you let it
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It says
Ambulances flag regular concerns about hold-ups due to LTNs and Shapps’s ‘transport revolution’ PARAMEDICS reported low traffic neighbourhoods and pop-up cycle lanes for causing delays to life-saving 999 calls every other day in London, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
In just eight months to February this year, ambulance staff logged 159 occasions when their dashes to medical emergencies were thwarted by road closures introduced as part of Grant Shapps’s “green transport revolution”.
Every 1.5 days – or twice every three days – a paramedic filed a report in the capital on a system which flags concerns the service is being compromised. And, the delays posed by so-called low traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) have meant the London Ambulance Service (LAS) has now given them their own “risk register category”, one of just six high-level hazards featured in the Corporate (Trust Wide) Risk Register published in March. The documents, obtained through Freedom of Information laws, give the clearest picture yet of how emergency services are struggling to cope with bollards and planters closing roads and cycle lanes introduced a year ago. The risk register categorised LTNs as posing a 15 out of 25 threat. Only two risks – potential problems with the emergency telephone system and the possibility of “critical” medical equipment missing from paramedics’ kits – were rated higher at 16 out of 25. As well as pledging to review the problem in six months, the report says Garrett Emmerson, LAS chief executive, met Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, to discuss the problem. The register says “there is a risk crews will be delayed attending calls, conveying patients to hospital or accessing properties due to the introduction of road closures, reduced lane capacity causing congestion, parking restrictions and other traffic calming schemes with limited/minimal consultation as a result of a pan-London response to Covid by TfL and local authorities to enhance cycling and walking schemes.” It warns these risks “could lead to an adverse impact on patient care/patient safety” and set a target risk score of five. The findings were “circulated to crew”, and an “Emergency Service Group” ... established and [is] meeting monthly with LAS, London Fire Brigade and Metropolitan Police Service and Transport for London head of traffic flow.” It says that from December 2020 to February this year the “risk score” remained static at 15. An LAS spokeswoman stressed that a risk report does not mean it resulted in harm to a patient. “We support measures to improve public health but also recognise that changes to road layouts can impact on the time it takes to reach patients,” she said. That is why we continue to engage with all local authorities across London to flag any delays, which our crews are encouraged to report,” she said. One Lewisham, a group opposed to LTNs, obtained one risk report showing paramedics were delayed four minutes in September in reaching a “Category 1” call which was “immediately life threatening” due to road closures.
A One Lewisham spokesman said: “Councillors, council officers and cycling campaigners are so desperate for these schemes to work, they are putting lives at risk for their idea of the greater good. They have dismissed concerns as ‘myths’, with flawed and biased research.”
A London Labour spokesman representing Mr Khan said “research shows that over time” LTNs contribute to traffic reduction, helping emergency services “get around London quickly and efficiently”.
The Labour spokeswoman said Mr Khan had not had any meetings with Mr Garrett to specifically discuss delays caused by LTNs.
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#77 27 Apr 2021 at 4.22pm | | | |
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Yes that's my brother helping out as a vaccine volunteer
Thanks for the bump 
I've got loads to share but they are in private groups so can't (hooray say some) so many dangerous things going. Someone's going to get killed or injured at a bus stop soon.
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#76 27 Apr 2021 at 8.59am | | | |
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Are you related?
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#75 17 Apr 2021 at 3.51pm | | | |
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#74 10 Apr 2021 at 6.07pm | | | |
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I've got not nothing against cyclists, even do a bit myself when the weather is nice but what's the point of cycle lanes that are hardly used when blues and two's ambulances are stuck?
Sorry can't the get the link to work, you'll have to take my word
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#73 25 Mar 2021 at 7.39pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #72
I'm expecting it to get worse where I live, just outside the South Circular. It hardly moves now and if it gets worse then it will come to a complete standstill. Maybe then the penny will drop?
I understand your cycling comments now
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#72 25 Mar 2021 at 3.58pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #71
Ah ok, may still push a lot my way if it pushes motors out onto the circulars and others move further out to avoid that traffic.
When I say make it worse I mean specifically from the cyclists perspective, the junctions were always the point of conflict with the blue routes which the bollards don't help with, and actually make life harder in some spots. With the general poor standards of driving and people not knowing what the stick on the steering column is for you get a sense of when someone is going to turn by their road position, and I've been surprised by a few manoeuvres on routes with bollards lately. Add in the extra punishment passes I mentioned previously...
I might get used to it with a few more miles when it warms up but at the moment I'm more nervous on the roads than I have been since having two crashes in 6 weeks back in 2015
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#71 25 Mar 2021 at 8.29am | | | |
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In reply to Post #70
No charge if you drive on the north and south circular roads, only if you turn off them and go into the zone.
in some cases they make things worse. Around this way I'd say it's the vast majority of cases 
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#70 25 Mar 2021 at 7.31am | | | |
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In reply to Post #69
With the ulez coming in, will you have to pay the toll to drive on the n/s circular or is it once you turn off into the area between them?
If it's the former a lot more traffic will be coming my way.
I'm not a fan of the bollards, the blue routes were already good, it's at junctions that the problems happen and the bollards don't help there, in some cases they make things worse.
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#69 24 Mar 2021 at 11.46pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #68
The idea of closing roads is that the traffic is meant to 'evaporate' , it hasn't, all it does is displace it somewhere else.
I'm now seeing displaced traffic in my road, well not for the next two weeks as my residential road is closed due to electricity works, meaning our share of the traffic has gone to another road, those poor sods are really getting displaced, displaced traffic. People are leaving earlier meaning traffic now starts to become noticeable at 6.15am Mon-Fri.
I choose to live in London and so expect to share the burden of traffic and have done so all my life, I expect traffic to get progressively a little worse each year until a long term solution is found but what they are doing is madness. No joint up strategy, just local councils doing their own thing, reducing or closing road with no consideration to the residents and the knock on effect to neighbouring boroughs.
I could go on but will stop tonight but will leave it on the subject of cycle lanes. I've got nothing against well designed ones but now it comes to the point that cyclists won't use them due to the pollution from the gridlocked cars that run along side of them and that they are littered with debris because the road sweeping lorries can't do their job because of the bollards in the way!
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#68 24 Mar 2021 at 9.32pm | | | |
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In reply to Post #60
Totally respect your passion for this issue and backing it up by getting off your arse about it 
Surely this leads to your house and others benefiting in a couple of years and a better environment for everyone?
Bit of pain lot of gain 
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#67 21 Mar 2021 at 2.02pm | | | |
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