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   Old Thread  #35 25 Feb 2021 at 4.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Tasting the air is about right

It's crazy doing the ride London, cycling around Surrey, up some of the hills is tough, but then on the final run into London, Wimbledon Hill is a killer, partly coz your knackered but also because the air is getting rough, and that's a mile south of the south circular, the air gets noticeably worse every mile from there

My throat is burning after a mile from my place, but dissapears by the time I get just 5 or 6 miles south, if boris can go 7miles I should be alright at 6
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   Old Thread  #34 25 Feb 2021 at 3.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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there's the nail hit on the head...

it's a really worthwhile ideal, but poorly executed plan / exploitation of the situation from local / regional government.

when I moved to London from the glorious wilderness of Walney Island, I was genuinely shocked at the amount of people who were younger than me who had breathing related issues / asthma and such. the common denominator was that they were all Londoners. I can remember 'tasting' the air when I was out and about.

if the planning of the routes is down to local government and there's no oversight then of course it's a mess.

Jon's got a point - surely Boris / Matt / Pritti know someone who used to have a scalextric or something....
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   Old Thread  #33 25 Feb 2021 at 3.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've been onto my MP a couple of times and she's not benefitting at all. It's difficult for people to speak out because the idea of improving the environment is a worthy idea, the way they are doing it is just utter madness.
There was a landmark case of schoolgirl Ella Kissi-Debrah where it was proved that air pollution was a major cause of her death. She lived on the South Circular road in London. Since these changes the South Circular which has always been polluted is gridlocking far far more and the pollution levels that have always failed standards have risen even more. The rise in traffic on the road where she died has been caused by displaced traffic from a nearby LTN, a small affluent area that has been gentrified. When the ULEZ is extended that road will carry much more non-compliant polluting vehicles.
By the way Ella's mum Rosamund Kissi-Debrah is now understandably against all of this.

Yes we all want healthier, greener streets and more cycling but this is doing the opposite to many parts of London.

Beware if they bring this in your area without consultation.




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   Old Thread  #32 25 Feb 2021 at 3.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Barricading streets with planters made out of old pallets filled with dirt and a few flowers does seem a bit crude, and the emergency vehicle access is important.

I would imagine those pillars that sink into the ground when you approach in a vehicle with the appropriate black box thing on the dash would be cheaper than cameras and be a decent solution.

I'm sure a cabinet minister could persuade a mate with no experience whatsoever to set up an 'Urban Access Solutions' company through which the govt could pay well over the odds for them.
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   Old Thread  #31 25 Feb 2021 at 3.01pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It seems to be worse in the labour controlled boroughs
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   Old Thread  #30 25 Feb 2021 at 2.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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this is a genuine question - have you contacted your local MP? or is s/he one of the ones benefiting from the lovely flowers and quiet street?

You'd think Labour would be on it if they can get a dig in....
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   Old Thread  #29 25 Feb 2021 at 1.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm more concerned that emergency ambulances are losing their freedom of movement when migrating patients to A&E
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   Old Thread  #28 25 Feb 2021 at 1.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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"Oh yes it is...."
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   Old Thread  #27 25 Feb 2021 at 1.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Most certainly had my pants down. If you read my posts I've mentioned a few times about local corruption.
Last time was post #2169 in the News thread

@Jon
I know what you're trying to do Jon but moving to another borough 10 miles away is hardly migrating.
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   Old Thread  #26 25 Feb 2021 at 1.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's been that way for a long time, they aren't supposed to have the sirens on if you cant move without going through the red, but I see coppers doing it all the time, sirens on, hitting the horn, shouting to move etc
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   Old Thread  #25 25 Feb 2021 at 12.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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that stinks

Tinhead - at the risk of sounding personal... it sounds like those councillors have had people's pants down...

you're right in terms of the questions of course. it's very easy to design a questionnaire that fools people into think if they say 'Yes' then they'll get the benefit over others...

and it's one of many policies / regulations / laws that have been snuck through while we're all looking at covid slides

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   Old Thread  #24 25 Feb 2021 at 12.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Migrate - to move from one place to another.
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   Old Thread  #23 25 Feb 2021 at 12.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The cycle bollards in tooting are causing a lot of that with ambulances, plus if you go through a red light to let one through you can't use it as a defence when you get the fine/points
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   Old Thread  #22 25 Feb 2021 at 12.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm not going to migrate
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   Old Thread  #21 25 Feb 2021 at 12.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Seen it in Dulwich Village so where the schools are there's more traffic and fumes plus with King's being nearby the Ambulances are getting stuck in gridlocks.
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