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Richpp1989
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Richpp1989
   Old Thread  #511 6 Mar 2021 at 8.50am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #510
Same as me bud I had a fox r series before my tempest it was a great bivvy but it took so long to put up and was a pain to move onto the fish, I always wanted a taller quick bivvy so was happy when they finally started making them
elleaton
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elleaton
   Old Thread  #510 5 Mar 2021 at 11.47pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #509
I agree. I had a two man bivvy before and it was huge and hard to put up alone. At the time it seemed a good idea but in the long term it was just a lot of effort and made me not want to go. The frontier is up in 3 minutes and is half a meter smaller in length and width so I'm loving it so far. I know it's not a small bivvy but like you I'm 6ft 3 and anything smaller would be too small for me.
Richpp1989
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Richpp1989
   Old Thread  #509 5 Mar 2021 at 9.57pm  0  Login    Register
I’m always a bit confused why some people want such huge footprints, I use a tempest 100t because I’m 6ft3 but the footprint is huge for me. I put my rodholdall and bivvy bag under my bedchair, other than my tackle bag which goes in the corner of the bivvy and my food bag in the little triangle behind my bedchair. My chair goes on the right side of the bivvy in front of my bedchair, how much more room do you really need? I use this for everything from 48hrs to a week more than enough for me
elleaton
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elleaton
   Old Thread  #508 5 Mar 2021 at 4.09pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #507
Interesting seeing the floor space difference between the 100 and the X. The 100 is trakkers smallest bivvy in that range (if you exclude the brolly styles) and the X is still small that the trakker, admittedly only slightly. My X seems pretty large inside without I actually being that big.
zinno
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   Old Thread  #507 5 Mar 2021 at 2.36pm  0  Login    Register
That's what I like about the Frontier Xd, even though it's only 270 x 210, it has a very large footprint inside
Tempest Composite is 265cm x 210cm, Xd is only 5 cm wider but inside difference is massive.


This is the photo someone posted on Fb:
Frontier x vs Trakker trakker advanced 100
X vs 100


Xd yes if you want you can get 2 beds in it but you have to store all your stuff under the bedchairs and it will feel cramped (That's not the definition of a 2 man bivvy for me)
The Xd is perfect for 1 bedchair and 1 junior bed, or if you go alone (with dog) you have a luxurious inner space without a bivvy that is +275 wide
oldblueboy
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   Old Thread  #506 5 Mar 2021 at 2.21pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #505
i would say looking at them photos, there more like two man than one and a half man ?
i have the original composite tempest, and that's definitely more like a one and a half man,
then two look massive like you say
i was looking at getting a new bivvy, but they look too big for me
so looks like i'll keep the composite for now, as i need a bit more room due to a bad back, and at the moment dodgy knee
i can't remember the measurements of the composite ?
but i would definitely say its in between the 100 and 150, and the fox frontier and frontier x
unless someone knows different what the sizes are ?


ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #505 5 Mar 2021 at 12.00pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #504
Those are both massive 1 man bivvies , you guys on the continent seem to use far bigger bivvies than we in the UK tend to so what you refer to as small really aren't in the grand scheme of things
zinno
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   Old Thread  #504 5 Mar 2021 at 10.59am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #503
Trakker 150 photo comes from Youtube movie: Choosing The Right Tempest Bivvy or Brolly for Your Carp Fishing (2.14min)

Frontier Xd photo I just set up in my living room

Tempest 150 vs Frotier XD Setup

https://ibb.co/pryJTDY
Goose
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Goose
   Old Thread  #503 5 Mar 2021 at 9.44am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #502
The frontier xd is not a small bivvy, it's biggest in the range of three.
zinno
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   Old Thread  #502 5 Mar 2021 at 6.51am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #500
Ofc the T150 has more floor space but not alot, we are talking about two 1 man bivvies that are 315x 255 vs 270 x 210, XD gives a lot of space for a small bivvy, T150 doesn't give much extra space for such a large bivvy compared to the XD, the high and flat back/sides of the Xd also make a huge difference in space.

My previous 1 man bivvy: quest tackle defier is 280 x 225 bedchair 210 x 80 with sleeping bag hit the sides with the Xd I still have 20cm of space left, measured from the bechair to middle door I only had 65 cm left with the Defier, XD i have 117cm left...
mrjcarter
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mrjcarter
   Old Thread  #501 5 Mar 2021 at 1.42am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #500
That's where I put my rucksack, fits perfectly.
My tempest would be perfect if the back was 20cm higher instead of sloping down that much. That's what the frontier improved on
BRB
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BRB
   Old Thread  #500 4 Mar 2021 at 11.21pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #498
Zinno, this phrase you use "usable floor space". Surely all floor space is usable if you choose to use it?
If you are referring to the space behind the bedchair in a tempest why is it not usable
Jslinn
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Jslinn
   Old Thread  #499 4 Mar 2021 at 11.03pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #495
The Titan is well designed and the fabric is decent it’s expensive and one of the better bivvies on the current market. I’ve been looking at bivvies for several years even saw the review of the Fox before buying a Titan, I’m not saying the Titan is better than the Fox I have a Powerplus that is better. The Titan for me can be a sturdy Brolly through the a full session Bivvy with the extreme canopy.

Ahhh “The Covid”, reading your post reminds me of snatch.
zinno
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   Old Thread  #498 4 Mar 2021 at 9.38pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #497
Between the Frontier Xd and Tempest 150 with a standard bedchair in it (not oval) the remaining floor space is not that much of a difference despite the fact that the XD is 45 cm less wide and 45cm less deep

One of the reasons I didn't want the T150 was: when I go fishing alone I don't want a bivvy that is 315cm wide, there are 2 man bivvies that are less wide, and despite the width of 315 the usable floor space inside is not that big because of the V-shapes, personally for me 315 cm wide is too much for a 1/1.5 man bivvy


BRB
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BRB
   Old Thread  #497 4 Mar 2021 at 9.24pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #496
There seems to be a hard sell based upon a flat back bivvy gives you more space. It doesn't, what it does do if you put your bed at the back is give you all the available space at the front.
A tempest type bivvy gives you space both at the front and back. Suits some you know.
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