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In reply to Post #206
I dont think closing bars and restaurants in 9 main cities between 22.00 - 6.00 is going to effect a lot of people sitting in their bivvies at night, so buisiness as usual.
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In reply to Post #207
I've just found a bit more info. The travels forms are only necessary during curfew hours in the affected areas so, as you say shouldn't be a problem travelling through these areas at other times.
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In reply to Post #206
Fortunately most anglers, once at their venues, are not going to be out and about 21.00 to 06.00. Travelling through Paris or Rouen shouldn't present a problem for the travelling angler.
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In reply to Post #201
What he has done is to instigate a state of health emergency that has been approved by the french government. This gives him the power should he wish to extend the emergency measures, nationwide if necessary. I live in Maine-et loire and the prefecture is imposing local restrictions. This is also happening in other departments. The situation here is worse than the UK, over 30,000 cases yesterday. so it is definitely not 'business as usual'. Be aware that the gendarmerie (ie police) are very hot on enforcing the rules and fines start at 135 euros. At the moment, outside of the curfew'ed towns there are no travel restrictions and no justification for travel is necessary, also there are no quarantine restrictions. Within the curfew'ed towns justification is required for travel.
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Was able to change mine from November this year to June next year 👍
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In reply to Post #197
|m back out this weekend and don't see any problems with travel, as long as the infection rates, county vs country, are not massively apart.
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In reply to Post #201
I read about it in belgium news, could be wrong.
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In reply to Post #199
After watching Macrons speech on tv last night, not once did l hear him say anything about declairing a state of emergency?
As Bullseye has said, their is a curfew in Paris and in 8 other major cities 21.00 - 6.00. other than that business as normal.
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In reply to Post #199
Curfew 21.00 to 06.00 in Paris and 8 other cities.
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In reply to Post #198
France is declaring state of emergency from Saturday on and curfew 21-6 in major cities, but not planning to ban travelling etc...
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In reply to Post #197
the rate infections are rising at the moment, I can see harsher rules/restrictions coming into force daily
good luck, hope to make it out there
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I'm in France in November, I've had everything crossed for weeks, hoping that it comes off.
I realise that I will have to quarantine for two weeks when I get back, i just don.t want things to get worse which will mean that I can't go at all.
I won't bore everyone with the usual babble about money wasted, how long it's been booked etc.
i was wondering just what everyone's opinions are on things as they stand and how people think it will pan out over next few weeks. it's the question you never want to ask really, but it's getting close now!
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In reply to Post #194
Thanks Symon, that reminded me what I really liked about you...Nothing. 
Had a great trip thanks, take care... 
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I filled the form in last week but it wasn't checked.
A lot of anglers are not wanting their catches putting up on websites/ Facebook etc because they will not be quarantining - tut tut
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In reply to Post #193
You do look dodgy to me Brian. Maybe the fact I called border force and told them to check you over had something to do with it.😂
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In reply to Post #190
I came back Friday and they checked our locator forms and the those in the motors in front of us... The border people also phoned me on Saturday to confirm I knew the quarantine rules...They have phoned me each time I have been out while quarantine rules are in place (3).
Maybe I just look dodgy...
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In reply to Post #190
Because I guess the government would prefer people to have some self-responsibility and just fill it in?
I pay my TV license, but wouldn't expect someone to knock on my door to see whether i'm watching Eastenders or not.
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In reply to Post #190
I would imagine point is that enough people self restrict themselves from travelling so any effort for additional control is not economic, takes time and resources...
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Well I came back from France yesterday and my findings were, on the way out I had all the relevant forms filled out and they didn’t ask me for them when I asked if they want to see them the bloke said it has nothing to do with the authorities at Euro Tunnel it’s a government thing at the French passport control they didn’t even want to see my passport they just waved me through, when I came back once again I had filled in the Public Health Passenger Locator Form and received my QR code and once again they don’t show any interest to where I had been and what I was doing they just scanned my passport and said have a nice day, my thoughts are what’s the point in doing it if no one is checking if you have done it or not?
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In reply to Post #60
Totally agree!! There will be hundreds that aren’t following the rules upon their return from their French fishing trips!!!!!!  And I’ve missed out on two trips this year with some lake owners confused and angry as to why I can’t do the same as these rule breakers!!!
I don’t have the luxury of having enough holiday to self isolate for two weeks!
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In reply to Post #186
It's only a shambles if people don't bother to fill it in.
Either way, they'll know when you've come back from a country without exemptions, and they'll have you on the phone asking you questions as to why you haven't done it.
Best case scenario? You go to work after spending time in France and get away with it completely.
Worst case scenario? You get a geezer in a purple high vis fining you four figures for not filling in a form that takes five minutes to complete.
Even Asylum seekers fill the poxy thing in problem free before claiming, yet Brits moan like **** about it. Trust me, we have it easy. Some countries will not let you even board a plane without filling it in. Others have been refused boarding for forgetting to put their middle initial on the form...
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In reply to Post #185
Is it not linked to your passport number? A mate of mine returned from Croatia and had a call as to why he hadn’t filled a form in, turns out he did but had mixed up 2 numbers on his passport number, but had proof he had filled a form in? Mind you he was probably one of the unfortunate ones, and he used the airport.
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In reply to Post #185
Complete and utter shambles, assume you will be back to work then on Monday Phil? Which lake were you at?
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Came back yesterday never filled in the form and was never asked at all either by the french or English border force 👍
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I go on 3rd of October on the tunnel I’ll let you know how I get on👍
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In reply to Post #182
Nice to read people are keeping to the rules, hope you had a good fishing trip!
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In reply to Post #180
My group has just completed 14 days quarantine - nobody has been checked. We all filled out the online form in advance and it was checked that we did so at Newhaven.
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In reply to Post #179
Tis sadly true mate
Quick up date, one of our group has contacted by track n trace people
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In reply to Post #178
Not a surprise really, they are not asking people in Rubber Boats either.
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In reply to Post #177
I did mate...
Not one of us was asked to produce the form details, sent via PDF we had at the return border in France. They simply wasn't bothered. So by following the rules, we have put a red mark on our heads.
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In reply to Post #176
Did you mean 'not' one of us ?
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In reply to Post #175
came back from France on Saturday, (8 of us) we all completed the on line forms, not one of us was asked for it at the border.
one of the lads asked about the form and the lady responded "we have no power to ask to see evidence of completion and we don't bother asking anymore"
since then, one of us had a phonecall from the track n trace.
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In reply to Post #160
"I don't know this as fact but my guess is if you've done an online form then they know and so there's a good chance they won't ask to see it at border control."
Sadly, they don't know. It's a brand new separate entity in it's own right and isn't linked to any system, so no-one on the Border will know if you haven't filled it in unless asked.
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In reply to Post #170
Exactly.
I don't understand why we want to live in a USSR like state where people WANT their personal details looked over at the Border, and WANT people in uniforms come to your house to check you're indoors.
Just do the form. If someone tests positive on the flight/ferry, you'll want to know....
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In reply to Post #172
NOPE
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In reply to Post #170
Were you surprised? 😂
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/europe/france-coronavirus-cases.html
Just under 10,000 new covid cases in France today...... There's a map showing the worst spots as well.
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In reply to Post #167
Been back from limoges 2 wks ago now so at the end of my quarantine. Not once have I been checked, called or texted by said authorities, nor was we checked by UK border force at dover. This country does not have the resources needed for any sustained amount of checks needed to check people are complying.
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In reply to Post #168
im going Saturday...I shall provide feedback on return
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In reply to Post #166
Simple answer is you can't stay locked down forever. All the time you mingle you can spread a virus. We will have to learn to live with it and get on with life. Eventually, through herd immunity, we can return to normal. Pointless waiting for a vaccine or cure that my never evolve. Come out from behind your sofa, get back to normal.
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In reply to Post #166
People use common sense? Nah it’s far easier just to blame someone else 😂😂
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In reply to Post #164
So groups of youngsters ignoring any form of social distancing are nothing to do with the rise? People with no symptoms using tests for no reason are nothing to do with the lack of test availability? It's time we stood up, took some responsibility and applied some common bloody sence instead of trying to pick holes and find loop holes in every bit of guidance/advice. Never been so ashamed to be British as I am at the moment
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In reply to Post #164
Good to see you've done your homework on this.
Their clearly fudging the numbers to put the focus of blame elsewhere. 
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In reply to Post #163
The government have to blame the younger generation as the older generation are either dead, banged up in care homes, in ICUs or hospital. Once they get over blaming the 17 to 22s it'll be the kids at school. They'll always find someone to blame. Just like they are now blaming the problem of testing capacity on too many people trying to get a test who shouldn't......after telling all and sundry we need testing, testing, testing to get on top of things.
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In reply to Post #155
It's youngsters that are fuelling the rise in Covid numbers in the UK. We have rapidly rising numbers of Covid cases but thankfully at the moment the numbers of hospital admissions isn't rising rapidly. This is expected to lead to older groups catching it and deaths rising again as we are seeing in the EU. We can thank the Covidiots that are bored of following the rules......
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54066831?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/uk&link_location=live-reporting-story
Ministers have singled out young people in particular for not following social-distancing rules.
England's chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, said Covid-19 rates are now rising, especially amongst people aged between the ages of 17 and 29.
He warned that if people stopped social distancing then "Covid comes back".
On Monday Mr Hancock warned the UK could see a second spike in coronavirus cases if young people did not follow the rules.
His comments were echoed by Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick, who said there was a particular responsibility on younger people to follow government guidelines on Covid-19, so that infection rates would not spike again.
"We have to keep hammering the message home. Of course the people in those age categories are unlikely to become extremely unwell as a result of having the virus.
"But they are able to pass it on to others," he said.
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In reply to Post #161
Not what I wanted to hear but thanks for the reply.
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In reply to Post #160
Yes. One of my group of anglers did. Didn't do the form. Waved through at French customs. UK customs stopped their van and the woman said "oh are you fishermen?" She then just waved them off. So back home now, no worries, back to work.
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In reply to Post #159
I don't know this as fact but my guess is if you've done an online form then they know and so there's a good chance they won't ask to see it at border control.
Has anyone personally on here not done the online form or a paper form and then gone through without question?
I hope not.
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In reply to Post #156
tin head they ask you if you have done it i said yes both times which i had said do you want to see it they say no crack on
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In reply to Post #157
ive been twice july with no quarantine rules and aug and iv e filled out the form both times last week had a knock at the door by the plastic rossers to se if i was home but the other 4 from our group have not had a visit
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In reply to Post #156
When I came back from Spain a few weeks ago (by plane) and had filled the form in online before my return, I was still stopped as was everybody else on my flight, I had to show a copy of my completed form, not sure how it works for ferries and Eurotunnel?
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In reply to Post #154
Did you do it electronically? If you did then there shouldn't be any need to show it?
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In reply to Post #154
Our great border control then, don´t bother with forms and all illegal immigrants welcome....only joking! No suprise that the number of cases are rising!
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In reply to Post #153
I filled one out and was never asked for it at Dover port 29/08
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In reply to Post #149
Apparently there is a sworn statement declaration, I didn't know about it when I went 3 weeks ago and was never asked I'll probably take one on my next trip at the end of the month.
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In reply to Post #151
https://www.gov.uk/provide-journey-contact-details-before-travel-uk
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In reply to Post #150
What about returning, lots of people in this post are putting stuff about being asked for forms and other things
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In reply to Post #149
unless there is something different for uk citizens (which I doubt) you dont have to fill anything or do any test when going...
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I’m reading that you have to fill in forms to go to France where do I get them from and do I have to have a Covid test before I go?
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/
France did up to nearly 9k over the weekend....
Numbers are going up in the UK and in Europe but deaths and hospitalisations don't (so far) appear to be rising rapidly. On the news last night they confirmed that in the UK at least the majority of new cases are in younger people (<50yo) so the chances of needing intensive care are massively reduced.
Is this the new normal until a vaccine is available? Who knows..
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In reply to Post #145
And we did another 3k nearly today, soon be catching them- 
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In reply to Post #145
Just got back from France.
I filled my form online and was not asked for any confirmation, Which I believe they should be asking for.
Maybe they check when they have your passport, I dont know. But the email you get when you complete the form has a QR code on it which I have read they should be scanning
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France did another 7k cases today....
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In reply to Post #143
Easily done and no hardship
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In reply to Post #142
I was asked for my form on the way back from France. I just showed him the confirmation email on my phone and that was that.
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In reply to Post #141
They should be, because many don't fill it in.
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In reply to Post #140
The point I was trying to make is if you do your form online they won't ask to see it at the border.
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In reply to Post #139
I think that was more casual chit chat then for any tracking reasons. BF don't give a toss about Brits returning from anywhere as they should already know the sp.
At the airports, if they checked everyone, the queues would be back onto the plane, especially if you had a couple of flights where English wasn't the first language and all were on visas that require checking. I think due to seeing the queues that were occuring, they changed it from 100% checks to 1 in 10 rather quickly, hence why many don't get checked.
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In reply to Post #137
On my return to the U.K. I was not asked for nor did I show a locator form
Had you already done an online form?
If the answer was yes then there's no need to show a form it's already on record.
When I came back from France in July there were no restrictions in place but border control did have a friendly chat with us casually asking us where we all lived. we answered Basingstoke, Lincoln and London. He never asked for forms (we done them online) but I reckon he was just double checking us as our locations were a little unusual as most people travelling together tend to be more local
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In reply to Post #133
I got back from France yesterday .
There are absolutely no restrictions form the U.K. or France to stop you going .
At the service stations and supermarket I stopped at everyone was wearing masks and I got the feeling if you didn’t you would have been told too .
On Thursday , Friday and Saturday night you can hear the French problem .. The youth who think ( and mostly are ! ) they are invincible are out partying .
On my return to the U.K. I was not asked for nor did I show a locator form .
There were lots of other anglers at the Tunnel both ways .
Basically evryone has to got accept that this ( the virus ) is not going to disappear anytime soon . If you want to go to France and fish then you have to accept that things have changed and will probably stay changed a long time . Get used to no travel insurance , country restrictions being imposed and lifted literally overnight, and a degree of chaos in everything .
What’s gone on and the restrictions imposed has not stopped me going a few times to France and the only thing that will stop my other three trips I have booked this year will be if France or U.K. goes back to a nationwide lockdown.
The new normal is here for a while and life goes on .. Live it ..
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In reply to Post #135
Found the opposite when there last week fishing Du Der. French supermarkets, local fuel stations, decathlon etc.. very strict and whilst we wasn't questioned as we was masked up there was someone checking at all places.
Most likely , like in the uk some over there think they aren't included in it. dick heads.
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What I would say is if you are travelling to or through France and have to stop, wear a decent face mask and take plenty hand sanitiser. I have completed 2 trips and the French are just not taking it seriously from what we saw at a variety of service stations. Shocking lack of basic compliance. Italy was a different kettle of fish, they were quite ruthless in ensuring compliance.
The lakes we visited didnt let us fish until we had supplied addresses etc etc as they had to keep a log of contacts in case tracking was required.
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In reply to Post #133
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I’m going next Saturday as well. And will prepare and pack to go , all through next week. The way I see it is , only two things that will actually stop that happening is A the french go into a national lockdown or B the uk
government prohibits me from leaving the uk. Until either of the above are enforced and despite some of the **** posted on here , I will carry on regardless. And will quarantine for the two weeks on my return 👍🏼.
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In reply to Post #131
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In reply to Post #123
Ooh your hard 😂
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In reply to Post #128
So you can only discuss this issue if you have a trip booked otherwise your points are invalid 🤔🤔
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In reply to Post #128
Yes I have a trip booked for next Saturday.
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In reply to Post #120
Not scaremongering just reporting mainly on facts as I was!! Are you suggesting the UK Government are scaremongering or reacting to what is actually going on? Have you got any trips booked, if not maybe best not to comment on other people who have, they risk losing a holiday or money or both, if you have booked a trip then apologies, feel free to comment! 
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In reply to Post #126
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In reply to Post #125
Wasn't aimed at your post, was a general reply after reading the whole thread
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In reply to Post #124
I never said anything about the 14 day quarantine. If you can’t go or don’t feel safe going to France, then don’t go. All I said is people read a headline and think the worse.
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In reply to Post #123
Loads of misinformation being spouted, including French Pay Lake owners who are claiming that you don't need to self isolate as you'll stay on the coach from Train to Lake and will be on private land unable to leave the complex at all. What he fails to mention, is they'll be in contact with him, a resident of France
Everything is done as a blanket ruling so that loopholes cannot be exploited. I.E sitting like a lemon in a tent for a week. We're being short sighted here. We account for 0.01% of those who travel through ports and airports everyday, all of whom travel from countries with varying degrees of risk. They don't give a monkies that you sat in a tent for a week, they cannot prove it, You cannot prove it. All they see is you travelled from France. That's it. 14 days, have a great time.
No point lying on the form neither, your passport is tracked, and people ARE being fined (probably keeping their nut down out of embarrassment)
As for the 14 day rule, of course you can isolate for less than that. It covers the period of those who are transiting from one port to another, or are here on contracted work for the NHS/Local Authorities.
Oh, and as for "essential workers", those who are first time visitors from Ukraine coming here to jump on a cargo ship, or Indian Nurses working in the NHS are classed as essential workers. You going on a jolly up in France and then coming back to stack shelves isn't in the same category.
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In reply to Post #122
Don’t go then, your choice.
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In reply to Post #120
Sorry but regardless of what ever spin is put on these figures there are just two facts that apply to all of us that have trips booked to France.
1) there will be a 14 day quarantine on return to the UK.
2) the Foreign Office advise against travel to France unless for essential reasons. This means that for the vast majority your travel and medical insurance will be invalid.
It is also possible that in the next few days or weeks that local lockdowns or further restrictions will occur in France and they might introduce quarantine regs for visitors from the UK.
Your decision on whether to travel or not.
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In reply to Post #118
But if you look carefully you will see that the area's with the worst increase in covid cases are Paris and the south of the country. Most rural area's where the popular carp lakes are situated are in the lowest category of infection.
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In reply to Post #119
This is the problem, people just read the headline and not the full story. Scaremongering at its best.
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In reply to Post #118
Death rates down. Hospital admissions down. ICU numbers down. More testing now so larger numbers of positive test results will emerge. France were testing around 80,000 a week at the height of the pandemic, it's now 800,000.
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In reply to Post #117
Over 20 regions now with red category, could well be another full lockdown, have you seen the number of cases lately? Now up to a level not seen since the 31 March, worrying, no doubt we will soon be following the same course. 
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In reply to Post #116
There is no differance between England and France having a full lockdown Macron is not calling for a full lockdown, here in France, it is no differant than to England, LOCAL LOCKDOWNS, Certain departments have restrictions on movement etc, but are not locked down.
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It appears that the France is now not ruling out another lockdown as their Covid numbers are spiralling..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53954562
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In reply to Post #114
Same rule applies for French or UK residents.
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In reply to Post #113
Replies appreciated.
This is for UK residents, not French residents?
Which helpline is this?
Thanks
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In reply to Post #111
I phoned the helpline with some questions and one was this one, he told me you only need to quarantine for the duration you are in the uk if it’s less than 14 days, between the trips.
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In reply to Post #111
Pretty sure you have to quarantine for your period of stay back in the UK, so only 1 week, but 2 weeks after your 2nd week. Enjoy your holidays!
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In reply to Post #99
Question please- I'm a UK resident. - If I have 2 trips to France and they are separated by one week back in the UK. Is that possible? Or do I have to do 2 weeks quarantine in UK after the first trip and therefore lose the second trip? Or is the quarantine just for the duration of my stay back in the UK?
Obvious solution I know is to stay in France for the middle week, but that's not an option for most...
Any factual answers rather than any supposition would be appreciated...
Thanks
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Have the French imposed any quarantines yet? Just read that there are now 21 departments in the red zone.
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In reply to Post #106
Dont have a link myself but ive got a friend Domminic Cummings, who said your ok doing anything you want.
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The two lads i work with that came back from spain both of them and their wives received one call each at separate times.
one of them had his mobile in another room and didn't even answer and didn't hear anything else from them, the only reason he knew was he rang the number back and got an automated covid reporting line which he just hung up from, his wife got a call the following day
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In reply to Post #104
Don’t have a link but a French lake owner I know has posted up something from a French website that just says any quarantining measures that come in will be only for French people returning from the UK
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Hi,
The French media says it will impose a 14 day isolation within days. I believe like the UK we will be able to do short trips and return home e.g 1 week, isolating at a single address. Although I am unsure whether we can isolate on a lake? It is a single address so it might be ok...what do you know or think?
Just read a post below, the media says the 14 day isolation will also be for tourist entering France not just for the French returning
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In reply to Post #103
First I've heard. Link?
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The French are imposing the 14 day quarantine on French people travelling back from the UK so won’t effect any of us travelling over there. We would just have to quarantine on return.
Think the French are doing it to stop people travelling to the UK like we are to France. Tit for tat it seems even though the French are looking like they are having a second outbreak so quite rightly they are on the no go list
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In reply to Post #100
This was already discussed and stupidly the same site says you're allowed to travel back out the county within them 14 days. Also allowed to use public transport if needed..... Mockery of the rules indeed
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In reply to Post #97
In isolation?.... I very much doubt that’s true , when they can throw a few grand fine at you 🤷♂️
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In reply to Post #99
Straight from the Home Office web site.
When you arrive in the UK, you will not be allowed to leave the place where you’re staying for the first 14 days you’re in the UK (known as ‘self-isolating’) unless you’re arriving from an exempt country.
This is because it can take up to 14 days for coronavirus symptoms to appear. If you’re travelling to the UK for less than 14 days, you will be expected to self-isolate for the length of your stay.
If you’re travelling from an exempt country you will not need to self-isolate. You should check the list of exempt countries before you travel. If you travel from an exempt country but have been in a country that is not exempt within the last 14 days, you will need to self-isolate for the remainder of the 14 days since you were last in a non-exempt country.
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In reply to Post #96
I travelled from France to UK on 16 August. Returned to France on 19 August. Told by Foreign office I only need to quarentine for the time I was there. No calls or checks were made by border force.
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In reply to Post #97
I believe that was on the Isle of Man who are very strict re covid. i highly doubt anyone in England will get banged up for the same offence
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In reply to Post #92
Chap was given 4 weeks in prison after he was grassed up, heard on the radio on Sat/Sun just gone.
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In reply to Post #95
Looking at this link it's 14 days when entering the UK.
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control
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In reply to Post #93
You would o my need to quarentine for the one week you are in France if they introduce it. It's the same in the UK, you only quarentine for the time you are there, 1 day or 14 days.
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In reply to Post #93
No. My boss would definitely not be happy. He's not keen on me going as it is.
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Just heard on the radio that France might impose a two week quarantine for people visiting from the UK it’s getting tit for tat now.
Would people still go if they impose it ?
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Has anyone actually been caught not isolating since the quarantine came into force?
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Back at the start of lockdown I rang my travel insurance to see if I was covered or needed to update or pay some sort of covid extra cover payment (silly I know) as I was due out at the start of May (fishing) then mid June (fishing), August Bank holiday (to visit my son) and again 3rd week of October (fishing), the answer I was given was my annual twelve month policy was renewed the last week of October 2019 so was valid until the end of my last trip, the lady on the end of the phone went on to say that if I have made the bookings prior to the March 23rd announcement of going into lockdown/Quarantine as a country then I would be covered and only bookings made after this date would not.
Luckily they all were but I have cancelled all bar the last one just because of the quarantine on return I cannot do three weeks/month of work, all have all been relevant to those trips that have passed or the August one coming up to see my son in Holland which they announced on the 14th this month along with France, she then said that as it was all just unfolding and relatively new that come my next renewal this would all be rectified within the policy and expect there to be no kind of cover for anything covid related and likewise with any other insurance companies.
I'm hanging on in hope they might just might drop the quarantine on return by the planned October trip but I honestly don't think they will, 2020 can suck on my dirty big balls.
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In reply to Post #89
yep Rac will still cover you AA has said that they will recover you to a local garage and home relay will be be on a discretion based service some of the others will and some wont, E111 will always work but if you need to be flown home good luck with that on a E111
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In reply to Post #88
I’ve got breakdown cover with euro breakdown. I rang and asked them and was told that breakdown cover will not affected and the policy will be valid . Unlike as already said travel insurance. I’ve just renewed my e111 European health card just to give me some access to medical treatment if required
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Ok it was really hard to find information on to how they plan to police this however i did find some interesting snippets.
The job of enforcing this falls to public health England who only have 5500 employees mostly scientist and researchers, powers are now shared with local councils public health departments, on tuesday Uk border force stated to share arrival information with public health England who are passing information to local councils, checks will start at random and dependent on the amount of people flaunting the rules may move to checking everyone, second problem if you travel against a non essential travel recommendation, you may well find you have no insurance or breakdown cover, average recovery cost from France can range between £700-3000 dependent on where in France you breakdown. another thing to consider is if you go after the announcement and come back and quarantine your employer does not have to legally hold your job for you or pay for the time you have to self isolate
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In reply to Post #86
More testing, more positive results. Of 4000 positive cases over 3500 of those will show no or very mild symptoms. Most of these will be in the Paris and Marseille areas. France was slow to start testing in numbers. Well behind the likes of Germany etc. They are now up to other European testing capacity and it's very easy to get a test.
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4,000 cases registered today. Surely they are going to enforce some sort of restrictions soon?
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In reply to Post #83
I think everyone realises that mass enforcement is not going to be possible but the odd check here and there is a possibility, just enough to cause a little uncertainty so those tempted to flout the rules will think it be me that will checked?
Yes there will be those that will weigh up the odds and decide to break the rules but I reckon there will be many who won't, plenty of people paying over the odds and trying to get back from Croatia by 4am tomorrow so some people must be concerned.
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In reply to Post #83
The couldn't care less attitude reigns ok.
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In reply to Post #79
Rubbish. They haven't got the man power to enforce it.
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In reply to Post #81
Rubbish I reckon, tell enough people one thing and you start to believe it.......bit like the virus itself...... 
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In reply to Post #80
Don’t forget they have your booking details and passport number. I have been told they will also be contacting your employer to ensure you are following the 14 day quarantine. They are Very aware some people will try and ignore the home quarantine.
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It’s a possible £100 fine if you fail to provide details........seems like a no brainier to me......don’t tell them **** and won’t be getting a knock or call at all......
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In reply to Post #78
They will be enforcing the 14 day quarantine using the track and trace officials that have been underused so far ! I think a lot of people will be getting fines or worse !!!
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I probably Thought the same as most the're not going to enforce it, got call from my brotherinlaw last night he got back from France on Sunday got a knock on his door yesterday afternoon and answered it to a very disappointed official who was checking to see if he was self isolating, luckily he works from home, the guy did say they was itching to hand out the first fines and if they can prove it you can get a maximum £1000 fine for every time you leave the house, im with blanco better of not going and waiting, plenty of fishing to be had over here rather than risk it
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In reply to Post #73
Maybe, but surely if you are quarantining then you wouldn’t have contact with your family? What would be the point in quarantine if you arrive with the virus, pass it to your family members, head back off to France and your family members spread it around doing their daily business
My mate asked if he came back from France after a weeks fishing would his whole family have to isolate with him for 2 weeks and was told yes, unless he can isolate away from them
Slightly different but my dad has diabetes and has to have a steroid injection in a dodgy knee tomorrow. The doctor told him it will lower his immune system so isolate for 2 weeks. He asked about my mum and her continuing to work and he said it would be better if she can isolate with him for the 14 days but if she can’t get the time off work then they will need to stay in different rooms, not use same utensils etc etc
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In reply to Post #75
I think what the government do has very little to do with health, the virus or quarentine.
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In reply to Post #74
Bizarre situation isn´t it? If the UK Government are that worried about a 2nd spike being contributed to by travellers to the UK, everybody coming into the UK including you Symon should have to remain in the UK for 14 days whether you planned to stay for a new days or not. I think the Slogan come here and maybe spread the virus and f--k off home would seem appropriate! We will sort out the mess afterwards!
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In reply to Post #72
I did.
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In reply to Post #72
People work abroad, come home to spend time with their families maybe?
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In reply to Post #71
That seems a bizarre rule 😂😂
So if you were visiting the UK for less than 14 days you would be expected to arrive, quarantine for your entire stay, then fly back? Why would people want to do that?
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In reply to Post #69
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk
You will notice the paragraph that states:
If you’re travelling to the UK for less than 14 days, you will be expected to self-isolate for the length of your stay.
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In reply to Post #69
I've not seen in stated that it is only for the duration of your stay, only seen it stated 14 days
Edit I take it back, just found it, makes it all pointless when you read all this rubbish. Still allowed to use public transport and still allowed in and out which mens more interactions with others lol. No wonder it's a mess here
This is because it can take up to 14 days for coronavirus symptoms to appear. If you’re travelling to the UK for less than 14 days, you will be expected to self-isolate for the length of your stay
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In reply to Post #66
Quarentine is for the duration of your stay....up to 14 days.
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In reply to Post #66
Maybe this is the better official link
https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control
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In reply to Post #64
You say that but when a van load of anglers turn up at Calais they know there's a very good chance they won't self isolate and they know it's going to be difficult to enforce it so maybe inconveniencing the odd van will send out a message.
Look out for a thread on here......... I was picked upon at Calais
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In reply to Post #65
I was under the impression quarantine was 14 days here if arriving from France
https://uk.ambafrance.org/COVID-19-UK-and-French-travel-and-quarantine-measures
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In reply to Post #58
How did I break the rules? I spent 4 days in UK which is allowed. You quarentine for the time you are there, be it 1 day or 14 days.
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In reply to Post #63
What good will an inspection at the port do though buddy? Not gonna happen.
I agree with you, the guidelines should be followed. But our government can't keep track of themselves, let alone the population.
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In reply to Post #53
What Boo says.
Leaving phones at home, giving duff numbers, flying back to France and devising all sorts of schemes and tactics is just breaking the rules, yes the probability of you getting caught is remote but I'd rather sleep at night knowing that the remote possibility of getting caught doesn't exist.
Once it gets around that carp anglers are flouting the rules then expect to be pulled over for inspection at the ports
I suppose the next thought process is how can I travel to and from France without looking like an angler?
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In reply to Post #61
They can't even do that if they have been given a duff number!
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In reply to Post #60
No one will trace phones lol.
They will not spend the time and money tracking anything.
At the absolute most a phone call will be made and you just tell them you're at home.
Imo*
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In reply to Post #59
They'll only track you through your phone. I know people who are self employed and wont quarantine because of no wages, thus leave their phone at home to give the idea that they are self isolating should people trace/track their number.
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In reply to Post #58
I can guarantee you no one will be tracking anyone lol.
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In reply to Post #57
So you broke the uk quarantine rules and no questions asked
Hopefully they won't come tracking you down with a £1k fine
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In reply to Post #41
I just returned to France from UK. I flew in over on Sunday and flew back to France this morning. No checks on paperwork. No questions. In fact I saw only 2 border force officials when I got into Stansted airport on Sunday afternoon. I filled out all the forms.....no calls....no knocks on the door. Flew back to Limoges airport this morning.....no checks. No questions. All rather bizzare.
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In reply to Post #55
Holiday Extras have now added COVID-19 cover on some levels of insurance policies
https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/374785/holiday-extras-adds-covid-19-cover-to-insurance-policies
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In reply to Post #54
Perhaps the Government will come up with an algorithm to sort this situation out! I don´t agree with their decision to treat the Spanish islands under the same quarantine rules as Mainland Spain, on the other hand I also cannot see how you can allow travel to certain parts of France and have different rules on returning to the UK from other parts of France. I suspect that most people still intent on going to France for a non essential fishing trip will probably not bother to quarantine! In my experience over 1/2 of the anglers I have met in the past have been self employed and with the extension of the financial support scheme where many are able to apply this week to get further support, this is a golden opportunity to supplement their self employed earnings with the Government support and cover the cost of a fishing trip and 2 weeks quarantine, you lucky people, us pensioners have received no support, though we can afford the time to quarantine.
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“Basically there’s 2 choices. Fish and quarantine or don’t travel”
Or use the third option, fish and dont quarantine if you can claim exemption. The list provides for much flexibility of interpretation as long as you can provide evidence.
Having said that, i have never been asked for evidence of my PLF on reentry via the eurotunnel route, either when the Uk has required quarantine or not.
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Think everyone is focusing to much on their own trips/plans/opinions than rather the bigger picture
The Government don’t care about people travelling to France in a car to sit at a lake for a week, play golf, go camping and all the other “socially distant” activities we could do
It’s a bit of blanket advice that covers everyone as it’s the easiest way of getting it through to people without everyone asking a million questions like this is safe, that’s safe, I’m only going here etc
The advice is pretty simple and clear
Avoid all non essential travel to France 🤷🏻♂️
If you feel your fishing trip is essential for whatever reasons then that’s perfectly fine, travel to France, fish your week, quarantine when you get back
Basically there’s 2 choices. Fish and quarantine or don’t travel
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In reply to Post #51
I guess the point a lot of people are trying to make is people are still going fishing in the UK, still going to pubs, restaurants, parks and beaches without thinking twice.
Yet it's being frowned upon for sitting in a car on your own driving to France. Camping outside for a week isolated from most other people. IMO I'm more at risk going out in this country than I am spending time wife my wife fishing in another.
Everyone will have different opinions and everyone is entitled to them.
Fingers crossed the borders don't close before Saturday..
If anyone needs Travel Insurance Insure and Go are still offering cover:
https://quote.insureandgo.com/compare.aspx
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I can see both sides
1 is the need to cut this risk down as much as possible, this should of been done from day one on our little island. Travelling now does bring some risk and potential spread of COVID-19 so we should all be following the rules.
2 as others have said, sitting by a lake in the middle of the French countryside seems to be very little risk so people think why not. Add to this the desire for a break and people will look for the reasons they should be able to go.
Example, I have 2 weeks booked at goncourt in October, booked 2 years ago at a cost of approx £4.5k. I've not had a holiday since October last year, been extra busy through all this and need time off. Insurance will only cover maybe half the booking cost, so a big loss of money. Hard to take when you 'think' it should be safe sat in the middle of nowhere, especially when it's an exclusive booking lake.
But, what will be will be, I'd rather be safe and also not risk my at risk parents either. Although quarantine back home is no problem as I work from home.
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In reply to Post #49
Surely the individuals choice is negated when told to avoid all but ESSENTIAL travel. As much as we'd like it to be, in the grand scheme of things, a bit of fishing is far from essential, if you pull the mental health card ou then go fishing closer to home, no reason to go to France at all
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In reply to Post #48
All a bit emotive but people will have differing opinions i suppose. Think the guy was saying that theoretically you could get in your van on the drive and not get out until you got to the lake via eurotunnel, fish a week in a single swim and get back in the van and return home. Opinions will define if that's right, wrong, safe etc but it's an individual's choice i guess.
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In reply to Post #45
It's not safer abroad is it, because theeir cases are increasing, ares are relatively under control, as a direct result of measures like this.... We have an issue in this country of selfish entitled people who will look to pick holes in everything just fir the sake of it and just for themselves, regardless of the bigger pictures
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In reply to Post #46
https://www.facebook.com/EurotunnelLeShuttle/posts/4471724929534826
For your info .
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In reply to Post #44
If the cap fits.. lol..
So you’re telling me that fishing abroad around a lake isolated with very few people is worse than people visiting beaches, parks, pubs or FISHING in the U.K..
If you’re of that opinion then I guess we should all go back in to lockdown and stop fishing in the U.K. as well..
Get a grip.. I’m more at risk in this country than sat at a lake with my wife in another..
That “my son” was the best waste of time on a response I’ve ever seen 
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In reply to Post #43
It beggars belief that folk want to fish at any cost ...I'd also hazard a guess that 40-50% of us that go abroad fishing shouldn't of bothered in the first place ,folk saying I'm going regardless ect ....you my son are part of the bigger problem ...if the cap fits wear it ...
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we were originally classed as key workers with immunity to self isolation but two work colleagues were already in spain 2 weeks ago before the uk announced the latest self isolation rules for spain yet they were made to self isolate for 2 weeks, our company paid them because the self isolation period wasn't in place before the flights were booked but they had to take it as sick.
id imagine france would now be treated the same with very few being exempt from the latest self isolation rules
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In reply to Post #41
I think the only thing that will stop people travelling to France is if they insist on us having to prove at the border that it’s essential travel , apart from that I think it’s go to France as normal , come home and do your 14 days
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In reply to Post #40
If France make us quarantine for 14 days what happens when people start to turn up to get home after only 7 days 
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In reply to Post #39
There’s quite a few jobs that give immunity to quarantine
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It’s on the government web site under transport 👍
Edit : if you have a valid in date sentinel card With PTS then you are ok that’s what I’ve been told
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In reply to Post #36
Unless they work for Eurostar, so maybe not jump to conclusions 👍🏼
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In reply to Post #32
That is rubbish. sorry, whoever told you that is wrong
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In reply to Post #31
Buzzman.......yes you are correct and i don't know but considering it was voluntary durung a full lockdown i think it's safe to assume it would be the same with the reclrical action if there is any. Either way we're out there for 15 days in total so matters not
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In reply to Post #32
My mate is a police officer and he still has to self Isolate when he returns next week.
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In reply to Post #32
Where’s that info?
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I’m classed as a critical worker (railway) so don’t have to self isolate so still planning to go in 4 weeks 👍
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In reply to Post #29
They havent imposed it yet so how do you know its voluntary?????
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In reply to Post #29
Due out next Saturday.. Quarantine is fine for me as I’m able to work from home..
Think I’ll be going regardless
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In reply to Post #28
We go for 2 weeks (1 week at 2 seperate lakes) from September 4th and still plan to go and suffer the isolation on return. The lake owner is saying the guys arrived with no issues this morning and even dream lakes etc coaches are still running . Even if the French impose reciprical action it's voluntary and can be done at the lake.
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In reply to Post #27
Anyone still planning on travelling in the next few weeks?
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In reply to Post #24
Battleface provide travel insurance for those travelling against FCO advice
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Crete Lakes are still operating there all inclusive package of picking up from Dover, surely this isn't essential travel? Due out on the 12th next month, I won't be able to go if self isolation is still in place, no chance of refund or moving dates tried that one because the bus is still running as normal!
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In reply to Post #21
COVID-19 travel guidance
The Foreign & Commonwealth Office currently advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. Travel to some countries and territories is currently exempted.
This advice is being kept under constant review. Travel disruption is still possible and national control measures may be brought in with little notice, so check our travel guidance.
From the UK Government page, it "advises" against all but essential travel, does not ban it.
Entry to France
Travellers arriving in France from the UK, European Area, Australia, Canada, Georgia, Japan, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia and Uruguay are no longer required to self-isolate, to demonstrate their travel is essential or to hold an international travel certificate.
Arrivals from countries other than those specified above will still need to complete an international travel certificate, which certifies that your journey is essential and confirms that you have not been suffering from a set of listed symptoms associated with Covid-19. This travel certificate is available on the French Ministry of the Interior’s website. You should also produce any supporting paperwork to substantiate the essential nature of your travel. If you are entering France via any port or airport from any country from which you are required to present an international travel certificate, or have spent time in these countries in the last 30 days, you will be invited to provide a negative Covid19 RT-PCR test taken less than 72 hours before departure. Those unable to provide this test result will be subject to 14-day compulsory quarantine/self-isolation on arrival. Travellers will be offered the option to have a free RT-PCR test at the airport on arrival with quarantine being lifted for those whose results are negative. For travellers arriving from Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Oman, Israel, Turkey, Algeria, India, Madagascar, South Africa, Brazil, Peru, Panama, Serbia and the USA, the RT-PCR test will be obligatory from 25 July for travellers unable to provide a negative test taken less than 72 hours before departure.
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In reply to Post #22
You might be able to buy it but won't be able to claim on it whilst travelling in a country where you have been told not to travel unless for essential reasons.
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In reply to Post #6
Transit stop and Private vehicles are under two seperate headings? I’ll mix with less people on our planned trip, than a weekly trip to Tesco!! 
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In reply to Post #21
You can still get travel insurance cover, and it is not the case that breakdown cover is invalid
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In reply to Post #3
The Foreign Office has stated that from Sat 15th Aug " only essential travel to France is allowed". If you do travel for non-essential reasons you might be turned back at the boarder. Any insurance and car breakdown cover will be invalid.
There has been no announcement from the French Govt on what, if any, quarantine will be in place for visitors to France from the UK but if like last time it could be voluntary.
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In reply to Post #19
The French have not made that announcement. Connexion are basing that on Tweet from a junior minister yesterday. It may well happen but it hasn't officially happened yet as far as I can see.
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In reply to Post #18
maybe you can link to the article, because there has been no official announcement yet
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In reply to Post #17
Its on the connexion website (English language French media outlet) straight from the French government.
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In reply to Post #16
I can't currently see that on Gov website although I wouldn't be surprised if they did reciprocate.
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In reply to Post #15
France have reciprocated. France quarantine unlike the uk's is voluntary.
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In reply to Post #12
If France reciprocate you will have to quarantine for 14 days in France....not an issue if you are fishing for 2 weeks or more.
I am a posted worker with my company registered in France, as a result I (currently) have immunity status until end of August and I got out of France today based on Ministere De L'Europe advice.
I am unlikely to get the status again whilst the UK require French nationals to quarantine on UK soil.
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Well I won't be going to France.
Surely fishing for carp can wait?
The rules are there for a reason - to try and stop being being killed by Covid-19.
If you do go and don't quarantine for the 14 day period, surely you are putting others at risk?
Unless you are one of the people that thinks it won't happen to me...
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In reply to Post #10
Looks like its only the person who travelled. You need to socially distance yourself from them at all times though.
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Well I’m still going to go in September 👍
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Will probably kill my May rearranged trip. FFS 
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In reply to Post #9
Does anyone know if the rest of your household have to quarantine with you for 14 days or just you?
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In reply to Post #8
Turn the news on the TV they had a really good Q&A on it
if you dont get out of the car for ANY reason in France your transiting
OBVIOUSLY if your fishing for a week you AINT transiting surely you can see that ?
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In reply to Post #7
Hmmm.
The transiting section seems to be a different section though.
The word transiting isn't mentioned in the private vehicles section at all.
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In reply to Post #6
If I went to a public lake for a week
YES you would need to self isolate as you were not transiting !
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In reply to Post #5
Has anyone read the government page, the section about private vehicles.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors
Private vehicles
You don’t need to self-isolate if you travel through a non-exempt country and you don’t stop in the country.
If you do make a stop, you don’t need to self-isolate if:
no new people get into the vehicle
no-one in the vehicle gets out, mixes with other people, and gets in again
You do need to self-isolate if you make a stop and:
new people get into the vehicle, or
someone gets out of the vehicle, mixes with other people and gets in again
If I went to a public lake for a week and didn't see another soul and didn't stop for fuel or food. Could I come back and not have to self isolate?
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In reply to Post #4
France will almost certainly reciprocate as they did first time round.
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In reply to Post #3
Im off on the 4th ffs, lets just Pray France dont close its borders!
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In reply to Post #1
I go 28/08 for a week, and still intend to! It just means I will have to use up my remaining holiday when im back + have 4 days off unpaid
I already canceld a trip to New York because of Rona Effing thing
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In reply to Post #1
Looks like yet another rebook
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It appears that we are imposing 14 day quarantine from 4am this coming Saturday
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Venues (Foreign)