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 #154 21 Jul 2020 at 4.53pm | |   |
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When you look at how much we all spend on gear -if we had a 5% charge and it went to a fighting fund to help fence all lakes - the most vulnerable first until all done.
1, you would get more takers if they paid their money (Say £50-100) towards the fund, and the anglers would get say X days or nights fishing on any lake that they help to fence it securely, bigger the donation, the more fishing they would be allowed to have..
2, Put £1 -5 on the cost of a rod licence and put that into a fencing fund/pool, same again anyone can fish it who has a valid rod licence.
obviously the rivers and canals would miss out logistically impossible to fence and secure. 
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#153 21 Jul 2020 at 4.51pm | | |
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But isn't that all a bit ambiguous and rather subjective? Like I mentioned before, the Spitfire common, hasn't that got history? How long does this "history" have to be to be deemed more worthy?
For some, catching the last remaining of the original stocking at Redmire would surpass the common at Burghfield, you only have to read the posts on the Traditional Angler with them cry w**king about it. Maybe for you and others like you, catching a possible 60lb common is like so *the one*, though, as I've alluded to, it's all very much subjective and open to interpretation, is it not?
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#152 21 Jul 2020 at 4.24pm | | |
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history
noun
the whole series of past events connected with a particular person or thing.
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#151 21 Jul 2020 at 4.09pm | | |
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I’d be surprised if Mouldy is willing to contribute to a fence as he’d rather backfill it being the owner of a reclamation company
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#150 21 Jul 2020 at 4.07pm | | |
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Just to clarify things, what do you mean by "history?"
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#149 21 Jul 2020 at 3.50pm | | |
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In this instance it looks like a very poorly judged bit of PR ...
Agreed, and the just giving pages (for some reason two of them) have such little information on it really hasnt worked out how they hoped. They have tried to use the fish's prominence in the carp world to get the extra they need for fencing such large lake, the headline of "Save the Burghfield Common" shows what they were trying to prey on.
Maybe if they said the owners & members have raised xxxx and they need xxxx more to complete it and all permissions are in place, etc. it would've gone down a bit better in general. Might have more chance of getting large firms to contribute too that way. I'm sure all the sponsored anglers can get their sponsors to stump up a bit of cash.
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#148 21 Jul 2020 at 3.26pm | | |
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Fair point.
If there's an otter issue then it could have been taken over the last few years... why the fundraising initiative now?
I think it's fair to say that nobody wants a historic fish lost by any means. In this instance it looks like a very poorly judged bit of PR ...
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#147 21 Jul 2020 at 3.00pm | | |
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They used to think it was male but I think 62 lb in April and 53 lb in July put paid to that lol.
@midlandman; top of the tree mate, spot on.
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#146 21 Jul 2020 at 2.44pm | | |
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Could have sworn I've heard the likes of Hearn mentioning that the Burghfield Common is male? Maybe I'm wrong. As for fighting, I was on about the Burghfield Common, don't know too much about Spitfires Common other than its huge and very well proportioned, oh, and it's about a gazillion £'s to fish for it.
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#145 21 Jul 2020 at 1.55pm | | |
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Totally agree, possibly the last of its kind, it’s an amazing fish, has never been fluked and is the absolute top of the tree. Hope to God it never gets ottered but it’s unlikely it will they might get this fence and that fish seems to be able to evade everything! Tbh those boys on Burghfield don’t understand how bad the otter situation is in the rest of the country, there have barely been any losses on Burghfield. I have fished waters which have been TOTALLY wiped out.
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#144 21 Jul 2020 at 1.33pm | | |
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The BC or the Wood?
The BC defo aint male. Just look at the pre/post spawn capture weights, all over the place.
But the wood isn't known to fight at all?
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#143 21 Jul 2020 at 1.26pm | | |
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No doubt it's an epic fish simply due to it being a male. Wouldn't have thought there's many that size that are male. Goes like a loon when hooked.
It's no easy task for a number of reasons, one of them being highly competitive and competent anglers.
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#142 21 Jul 2020 at 1.20pm | | |
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Fortunate enough to fish a syndicate that has an otter fence
As anglers we do need to do more
The otter debate has now been going on for 6-7 years.
When you look at how much we all spend on gear -if we had a 5% charge and it went to a fighting fund to help fence all lakes - the most vulnerable first until all done
Over 5-6 years we could be a far way through it now
I know you could argue that it’s the owners problem but without the lakes the sport will go into decline and will in turn mean less dealers, less bait distributors and more anglers for less waters which will mean more costs to all
Just because the lake I am on today has one doesn’t mean the lake I want to fish tomorrow will have
The otters are not going away and apart from us all moaning about it we haven’t done a great deal
I don’t agree with embryo - too many lakes one owner - but at least it’s helping grow the sport and protecting lakes
They are not stupid - tax incentives to reinvest in their industry and growing a portfolio investments that benefit themselves - they are not fools
It is all of our problem and we all need to help
I’m not fussed about a special fish but I am about a lake that growing / supporting our sport
I started carp fishing on a park lake that had some lovely fish in it - now between the otters and Eastern European’s I’ve watched it go into serious decline - I did the same as everyone else - complained - now it’s gone - wish I’d done more
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#141 21 Jul 2020 at 1.16pm | | |
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It's the Wood Common, not the Woodcarving. It has the size and looks but not the history.
The BC is the last of the well known history fish imo. One of a kind.
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#140 21 Jul 2020 at 1.09pm | | |
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Woodcarving at spitfire?
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