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 #145 9 Jul 2020 at 10.48pm | |   |
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In reply to Post #143
sod off you two
besides, they're all going to be 'youtubers' and make millions from posting cat videos...
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#144 9 Jul 2020 at 8.56pm | | |
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In reply to Post #140
Once you see them walk out of the door that’s it. Some will swim, some will sink
You must live REALLY close to a canal.
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#143 9 Jul 2020 at 8.45pm | | |
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In reply to Post #142
Hippy with passion. Oh those poor kids 
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#142 9 Jul 2020 at 8.11pm | | |
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I reckon he will do a good job, he’s a man with a passion, we know that 
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#141 9 Jul 2020 at 7.39pm | | |
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Once you see them walk out of the door that’s it. Some will swim, some will sink
None of them will have a chance, the drama queen would've turned them all into snowflakes by then. 
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#140 9 Jul 2020 at 7.09pm | | |
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In reply to Post #137
Interesting what you say about kids Mal since you are dealing with all cases on a daily basis I guess. Once you see them walk out of the door that’s it. Some will swim, some will sink
I think leaving education up to the age of 18 minimum for example should be standard for all, possibly school, college course or trade training minimum etc. A couple of years up to 20 would be nice on a cheap labour scheme to get kids employed, gets the kids experience and helps businesses to be competitive by paying a percentage of lower set wages. I think kids going out into the big wide world at 16 is crazy for me, they are still kids.
We need to get our skills up to attract business and provide the skills and quality they are looking for, build in England not Europe for example should be the driver
It’s a bit like the old industrial revolution at the moment, lots of investment into automation, predominantly to reduce the human error element and head count to make them competitive, where as China and others are still big on head count and just exploiting people, paying them peanuts. All the profit is predominantly on reducing labour costs ffs. Not good business at all but if you want to compete...
The skills set will have to change too in the future
There are jobs about, my daughter was doing an accounts course which has fell on its arse. She is working at Tesco the moment order picking, only thing that pisses me off, she’s loving it. Which at the moment fair play but I wouldn’t like to think it was a long term option, her choice of course. There are jobs about but whether they pay enough to suit a persons livelihood is the problem sadly  
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#139 9 Jul 2020 at 6.41pm | | |
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In reply to Post #137
But 6 months employment looks better on a Cv than 6 months sitting on arse
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#138 9 Jul 2020 at 10.07am | | |
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I think you know what has to happen. The most important thing is always getting your goods and services to market. That's how economies work. We must get a good economic deal with the EU our biggest market. China has chosen to put the squeeze on us now over Hong Kong, knowing we're gonna be knocking on the door for a trade deal. Guess what'll be top of their agenda? The USA has its own issues and the fallout of foreign and domestic policy of this administration has yet to fully unwind.
Hopefully this government are realists and not idealists.
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| | | mal | | Posts: 5578 | | |
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#137 9 Jul 2020 at 10.07am | | |
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True - but pretending that a 6 month work placement is the fix for 16-25 year olds isn't the answer either. I know I sound negative but with so many companies honestly saying that they will need less staff, it's simply a political move... Maybe I'll be proved wrong and all of the placements will turn into jobs?
I wish I did have the answer - any word from Average Joe?
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#136 9 Jul 2020 at 0.31am | | |
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we are facing unprecedented challenges and the sh*t that comes with it
I think we all know this. I know a lot of furloughed people and they are ****ting themselves. No good Sunak shrugging his shoulders and announcing there's nothing I can do we are all ****ed.
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#135 9 Jul 2020 at 0.26am | | |
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I get your point and agree - we could have heard a lot worse today.
I guess my point is that the 'lot worse' that we maybe could / should have heard today is the truth of what the country is facing. It's not pretty and maybe a bit brutal, but maybe it was time to just hold hands up and say 'we are facing unprecedented challenges and the sh*t that comes with it' - rather than use the youth as a distraction / pawns in political shenanigans
And this is from an idealist snowflake who actually likes Sunak!
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#134 9 Jul 2020 at 0.17am | | |
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So you don't know but at least you admit it.
It's so easy to criticise but not so easy to come up with a solution.
I shall ask my Joe Averages tomorrow to see if they have any ideas
BTW I haven't got the answers but we could have heard a lot worse today IMO.
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#133 9 Jul 2020 at 0.00am | | |
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some honesty?
sorry - i forgot it's politicians we're dealing with
tinhead - if I had the answer to the impending mass unemployment I could tour the world fixing economies and become a millionaire.
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#132 8 Jul 2020 at 11.56pm | | |
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So what should happen?
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| | | mal | | Posts: 5578 | | |
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#131 8 Jul 2020 at 11.53pm | | |
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not sure how you made that leap from what I said tinhead?
a lot of what Sunak has announced today are short term sweeteners. 'Kicking the can down the road'?
The kickstart idea will likely see a lot of companies paying lipservice to providing for young workers, in the same way the recent apprenticeship schemes have. Companies get the funding provided to them from the schemes - maybe even give youngsters a go for a spell after the scheme ends (but not always) - and then when cuts need to be made, it's the same youngster who are first out of the door.
As I said - it's government shifting bodies around to hide the truth of unemployment which is going to have an inevitable rise post lockdown / furlough.
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