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   Old Thread  #145 9 Jul 2020 at 10.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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sod off you two

besides, they're all going to be 'youtubers' and make millions from posting cat videos...
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   Old Thread  #144 9 Jul 2020 at 8.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Once you see them walk out of the door thatís it. Some will swim, some will sink


You must live REALLY close to a canal.

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   Old Thread  #143 9 Jul 2020 at 8.45pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hippy with passion. Oh those poor kids
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   Old Thread  #142 9 Jul 2020 at 8.11pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I reckon he will do a good job, heís a man with a passion, we know that
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   Old Thread  #141 9 Jul 2020 at 7.39pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Once you see them walk out of the door thatís it. Some will swim, some will sink
None of them will have a chance, the drama queen would've turned them all into snowflakes by then.
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   Old Thread  #140 9 Jul 2020 at 7.09pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Interesting what you say about kids Mal since you are dealing with all cases on a daily basis I guess. Once you see them walk out of the door thatís it. Some will swim, some will sink

I think leaving education up to the age of 18 minimum for example should be standard for all, possibly school, college course or trade training minimum etc. A couple of years up to 20 would be nice on a cheap labour scheme to get kids employed, gets the kids experience and helps businesses to be competitive by paying a percentage of lower set wages. I think kids going out into the big wide world at 16 is crazy for me, they are still kids.

We need to get our skills up to attract business and provide the skills and quality they are looking for, build in England not Europe for example should be the driver

Itís a bit like the old industrial revolution at the moment, lots of investment into automation, predominantly to reduce the human error element and head count to make them competitive, where as China and others are still big on head count and just exploiting people, paying them peanuts. All the profit is predominantly on reducing labour costs ffs. Not good business at all but if you want to compete...

The skills set will have to change too in the future

There are jobs about, my daughter was doing an accounts course which has fell on its arse. She is working at Tesco the moment order picking, only thing that pisses me off, sheís loving it. Which at the moment fair play but I wouldnít like to think it was a long term option, her choice of course. There are jobs about but whether they pay enough to suit a persons livelihood is the problem sadly
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   Old Thread  #139 9 Jul 2020 at 6.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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But 6 months employment looks better on a Cv than 6 months sitting on arse
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   Old Thread  #138 9 Jul 2020 at 10.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think you know what has to happen. The most important thing is always getting your goods and services to market. That's how economies work. We must get a good economic deal with the EU our biggest market. China has chosen to put the squeeze on us now over Hong Kong, knowing we're gonna be knocking on the door for a trade deal. Guess what'll be top of their agenda? The USA has its own issues and the fallout of foreign and domestic policy of this administration has yet to fully unwind.
Hopefully this government are realists and not idealists.
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   Old Thread  #137 9 Jul 2020 at 10.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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True - but pretending that a 6 month work placement is the fix for 16-25 year olds isn't the answer either. I know I sound negative but with so many companies honestly saying that they will need less staff, it's simply a political move... Maybe I'll be proved wrong and all of the placements will turn into jobs?

I wish I did have the answer - any word from Average Joe?
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   Old Thread  #136 9 Jul 2020 at 0.31am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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we are facing unprecedented challenges and the sh*t that comes with it

I think we all know this. I know a lot of furloughed people and they are ****ting themselves. No good Sunak shrugging his shoulders and announcing there's nothing I can do we are all ****ed.
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   Old Thread  #135 9 Jul 2020 at 0.26am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I get your point and agree - we could have heard a lot worse today.

I guess my point is that the 'lot worse' that we maybe could / should have heard today is the truth of what the country is facing. It's not pretty and maybe a bit brutal, but maybe it was time to just hold hands up and say 'we are facing unprecedented challenges and the sh*t that comes with it' - rather than use the youth as a distraction / pawns in political shenanigans

And this is from an idealist snowflake who actually likes Sunak!
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   Old Thread  #134 9 Jul 2020 at 0.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So you don't know but at least you admit it.
It's so easy to criticise but not so easy to come up with a solution.
I shall ask my Joe Averages tomorrow to see if they have any ideas

BTW I haven't got the answers but we could have heard a lot worse today IMO.
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   Old Thread  #133 9 Jul 2020 at 0.00am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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some honesty?


sorry - i forgot it's politicians we're dealing with


tinhead - if I had the answer to the impending mass unemployment I could tour the world fixing economies and become a millionaire.
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   Old Thread  #132 8 Jul 2020 at 11.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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So what should happen?
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   Old Thread  #131 8 Jul 2020 at 11.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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not sure how you made that leap from what I said tinhead?

a lot of what Sunak has announced today are short term sweeteners. 'Kicking the can down the road'?

The kickstart idea will likely see a lot of companies paying lipservice to providing for young workers, in the same way the recent apprenticeship schemes have. Companies get the funding provided to them from the schemes - maybe even give youngsters a go for a spell after the scheme ends (but not always) - and then when cuts need to be made, it's the same youngster who are first out of the door.

As I said - it's government shifting bodies around to hide the truth of unemployment which is going to have an inevitable rise post lockdown / furlough.
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