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I had a look at some of the comments from March and April in this thread last night as i was knocking a few dram's of fine whiskey back and laughing my head off , the misguided loyalty to Boris and co ,Stockholm syndrome !
Then i thought back to Gordon Brown selling off tonnes of our gold at the wrong time and losing a few billion , and how our press have reminded Labour of this ever since , which brings us to where we are now , just the incompetence surrounding the track n trace has surpassed the "gold debacle " many times over but when you factor in the reason for the failure track n trace , as with all the other jobs for the boys schemes at the moment = corruption , Gordon Brown and the gold = incompetence ,
So , where is the press outrage now and for ever more , we are into the £trillions now and i reckon around 1/3 of this amount could of been avoided were it not for these corrupt incompetent fools , where the fu** is your anger to this bunch of idiots .
Wayne  pathetic
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#1892 23 Jan 2021 at 3.05pm | | |
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Problem is nowadays you don’t know who or what to believe........apart from spanky, he knows everything because the guardian said so.......  
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#1891 23 Jan 2021 at 2.59pm | | |
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Good points.
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#1890 23 Jan 2021 at 2.52pm | | |
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So to summarise, the mail is not to be trusted and those who interpret the ‘facts’ differently to you is a moron.
Opposition is there to hold government to account in parliament but given the democracy in which we live, the public are accountable for the party in power for a set term and sadly have to stomach whatever **** the majority have voted for, within reason.
So how do you plan to make a stand against contracts for the boys? Facebook comment then into submission or tie yourself naked to the Houses of Parliament?
I’m not sure what effects people are feeling of these contracts but multiple billions have been paid to people for the best part of a year to stay home (which they didn’t do). Imagine how good we could’ve had it!
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#1889 23 Jan 2021 at 2.48pm | | |
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Lay off the Aljazeera is my advice. It has taken over your life, I can see it, I bet others can too. One day you may blow yourself up if your not careful 
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#1888 23 Jan 2021 at 2.17pm | | |
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You said I get and believe my information the same as them... which is creating your own media channel for what they believe in because they don’t trust the MSM. Which is untrue quite clearly, as I do research in to the facts.
You clearly misinterpreted my post anyway. My lack of intelligence angle was that for people that say the media is untrustworthy, to start their own media channel to promote their beliefs and then try to get people to believe them is ironic and quite obviously moronic too is it not? “You shouldn’t believe the media, but believe our media”
As to my disregard for certain media channels, well it’s based on historical inaccuracy and false news spread by them. Hence, based on facts something can be untrustworthy instantly and shouldn’t be believed blindly.
Again, maybe you misunderstand, or are happy to be one of the sheep. Personally if your employee is doing a **** job, why should you not hold them accountable? Not a great way to do business is it? I don’t really like my hard earned money going to someone’s already rich friend without an obligation to provide anything. If you do then yes, you blindly allow yourself to be taken for a mug. The fact you see no choice other than to let the government steal your tax money is quite frankly absurd tbh. But if that is how you wish to live your life then it’s up to you, I find it sad that some in society are happy to do so tbh. Maybe you could provide more of your own money so those that don’t agree with it could stop feeling the effects of it?
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#1887 23 Jan 2021 at 1.47pm | | |
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I didn’t suggest you have your own media channel?
You are assuming that what information you have available to you on which to base your opinions is factual.
That’s not to suggest it isn’t, but you have previously disregarded stories printed in the mail (as an example) purely because of the source when they could be completely accurate but no doubt reported on from a differing perspective than your own.
Everybody likes to claim to have an open mind and political/journalistic impartiality, but we are often products of our environments and upbringings. Just saying it’s unfair to suggest that a lack of intelligence is to blame for extreme views, certainly a controversial example, but Hitler was an intelligent man... unfortunately though, nuts!
I’m not sure why you need to drop in that some blindly follow either, it’s becoming a recurring comment from some. What other choice do we have? Because nobody on here is either better qualified nor in higher demand than current members of parliament (of any party) as much as they would like to think they are.
You will find something to disagree with, of that I am certain But I’ve tried getting my point across politely without provoking a patronising response
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#1886 23 Jan 2021 at 12.45pm | | |
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6 days - and that was a whole universe and people and squirrels and stuff too. Came in under budget and ahead of schedule. Lessons to be learned there.... 
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#1885 23 Jan 2021 at 12.45pm | | |
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Your welcome.......
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#1884 23 Jan 2021 at 12.40pm | | |
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#1883 23 Jan 2021 at 12.35pm | | |
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Careful, that’s what he wants you to think...
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#1882 23 Jan 2021 at 12.34pm | | |
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No they don’t, because I don’t denounce every form of MSM and then start my own up and say that it’s the truth? I read a variety of media outlets and research facts before making my own conclusions and forming my opinions (you know, the way it’s supposed to be done). I don’t blindly follow anything unlike some.
Not quite sure why you think I have my own media channel either?
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#1881 23 Jan 2021 at 12.33pm | | |
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Yes wayne, you have often explained that nothing you write is sincere or a genuine opinion, it is just posted to get a reaction because you are an attention seeking daft lad.
Understood 
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#1880 23 Jan 2021 at 12.30pm | | |
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Dont be jealous Jon......my Fan base is huge..... 
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#1879 23 Jan 2021 at 12.17pm | | |
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I don’t really understand this post greekski.
These idiots believe their information sources in the same way you believe yours.
It’s the year 2021 and we have just seen another US president take up residence in possibly the most powerful position on the planet, who believes god made said planet in 7 days. Being the biggest selling book of all time it goes to show that if enough people with a susceptibility to bull**** read your bull****, you could be onto a winner.
On the other active topic. Leading a country through an epidemic or simply everyday life is a bit like the red X closing motorway lanes, it’s a warning of danger ahead that some of us plebs will heed and fall into line. The others will soldier on at 85mph in the closed lanes irrespective of there being possible fatalities or dangers ahead, simply because of greed and a lack of respect for authority/their fellow man.
What happens? They get to the front of the queue first and prolong the journey for everybody else.
Are the government often useless... yes
Are imported covid cases down to them... yes
Is transmission of covid in the community down to them.... no
Is it down to those with a disregard for others and healthcare setting mistakes... yes
Will people find fault in every step of the route out of this ****... of course
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